RE: RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker
Yes, the one-way route is easier, as you won't have to hang on to any AT-specific processing commands and your FM read/write rules may be fewer in number. To clarify Diane's situation, there is more there than just AT and FM compatibility. A few of the processes she has to use are for institutional reasons and are not required aspects of AT and FM compatibility. -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@grafixtraining.com www.grafixtraining.com office 714 960-6840 cell & txt 714 585-2335 sms message skype: mattrsullivan twitter: mattrsullivan linkedin facebook -Original Message- From: ecid...@zoominternet.net [mailto:ecid...@zoominternet.net] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:57 AM To: Carole Johnson; Matt Sullivan; ecid...@zoominternet.net; Diane Gaskill Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker Thanks to all of you on this. My concern is the AT-to-FM route. It's a one-way trip, not a roundtrip. So maybe the journey won't be as difficultThe manufacturer provides us with their documentation via AT and we do "that thing we do" without having to respect a round trip back to AT... Pressing on Thanks again All the best Eduardo On Thu 07/01/10 00:56 , "Diane Gaskill" dgcal...@earthlink.net sent: > Hi Matt, > > Happy New Year. > > We transfer files from FM to AT and back to FM via XML. The process > requires a common DTD, schema, and EDD, as well as FM and AT templates > thatuse the same XML elements and the same version of DocBook. I > expect thatyou can do it with DITA too. The FM book is validated in > FM8, saved as XML,and then validated in Oxygen with a tool called > Schematron. I'm not sure howthe XML is generated from from AT, but I > believe the process is almost thesame. Note that this processis not > as simple as it sounds. It took severalmonths to get it working. You > also have to coordinate filenames, directorystructures, graphics > formats, etc., so that the files open corectly on bothends. > > Diane Gaskill > Hitachi Data Systems > > = > > -Original Message- > From: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[framers-bounces@lists.frameusers. > com]On Behalf Of Carole > JohnsonSent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:31 PM > To: Matt Sullivan > Cc: > framers@lists.frameusers.com; ecid > a...@zoominternet.net;framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comsubject: RE: > Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > > > Haven't looked into this for a few years. I will see if I have my > notes,but I thought it was a schema or a DTD, but using style sheet. > Not reallysure at the moment. > > Carole J. Johnson, > > ~~~ > Carole Johnson > Raytheon Technical Services Company LLC System and Product Support > Solutions 8680 Balboa Avenue (Bldg 1/MS 3-M102) San Diego, CA 92123 > Work:(858)522-2846, Fax:(858)522-2330 > > > > > From: > "Matt Sullivan" matt@ > grafixtraining.com>To: > "'Carole Johnson'" C > arole_john...@raytheon.com>,ecid > a...@zoominternet.net>Cc: > > framers@lists.frameusers.com, framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comdate: > 01/06/2010 02:28 PM > Subject: > RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker Sent by: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > > > My understanding is that the Schema needs to be converted to a DTD, > thenhandled from there. Carole, are you aware of a different approach? > > > -Matt > > Matt Sullivan > GRAFIX Training > > matt@ > grafixtraining.comwww.grafixtraining. > comoffice 714 960-6840 > cell & txt 714 585-2335 > sms message > skype: mattrsullivan > twitter: mattrsullivan > > > linkedin > > > facebook > > > > > -Original Message- > From: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[framers-bounces@lists.frameusers. > com] On Behalf Of Carole > JohnsonSent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:17 PM > To: ecid > a...@zoominternet.netcc: > framers@lists.frameusers.com; > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comsubject: Re: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > > Rumor has it you can use a schema with those versions of FM. Should > be able to pull in the arbortext file (if they are using flat files) > > Carole J. Johnson, > > ~~~ > Carole Johnson > Raytheon Technical Services Company LLC System and Product Support > Solutions 8680 Balboa Avenue (Bldg 1/MS 3-M102) San Diego, CA 92123 > Work:(858)522-2846, Fax:(858)522-2330 > > > > > From: > ecid > a...@zoominternet.netto: > > framers@lis
Re: RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker
Thanks to all of you on this. My concern is the AT-to-FM route. It's a one-way trip, not a roundtrip. So maybe the journey won't be as difficultThe manufacturer provides us with their documentation via AT and we do "that thing we do" without having to respect a round trip back to AT... Pressing on Thanks again All the best Eduardo On Thu 07/01/10 00:56 , "Diane Gaskill" dgcal...@earthlink.net sent: > Hi Matt, > > Happy New Year. > > We transfer files from FM to AT and back to FM via XML. The process > requires a common DTD, schema, and EDD, as well as FM and AT templates > thatuse the same XML elements and the same version of DocBook. I expect > thatyou can do it with DITA too. The FM book is validated in FM8, saved as > XML,and then validated in Oxygen with a tool called Schematron. I'm not sure > howthe XML is generated from from AT, but I believe the process is almost > thesame. Note that this processis not as simple as it sounds. It took > severalmonths to get it working. You also have to coordinate filenames, > directorystructures, graphics formats, etc., so that the files open corectly > on > bothends. > > Diane Gaskill > Hitachi Data Systems > > = > > -Original Message- > From: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com]On > Behalf Of Carole > JohnsonSent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:31 PM > To: Matt Sullivan > Cc: > framers@lists.frameusers.com; ecid > a...@zoominternet.net;framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comsubject: RE: Epic > Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > > > Haven't looked into this for a few years. I will see if I have my > notes,but I thought it was a schema or a DTD, but using style sheet. Not > reallysure at the moment. > > Carole J. Johnson, > > ~~~ > Carole Johnson > Raytheon Technical Services Company LLC > System and Product Support Solutions > 8680 Balboa Avenue (Bldg 1/MS 3-M102) > San Diego, CA 92123 > Work:(858)522-2846, Fax:(858)522-2330 > > > > > From: > "Matt Sullivan" matt@ > grafixtraining.com>To: > "'Carole Johnson'" C > arole_john...@raytheon.com>,ecid > a...@zoominternet.net>Cc: > > framers@lists.frameusers.com, framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comdate: > 01/06/2010 02:28 PM > Subject: > RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > Sent by: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > > > My understanding is that the Schema needs to be converted to a DTD, > thenhandled from there. Carole, are you aware of a different approach? > > > -Matt > > Matt Sullivan > GRAFIX Training > > matt@ > grafixtraining.comwww.grafixtraining. > comoffice 714 960-6840 > cell & txt 714 585-2335 > sms message > skype: mattrsullivan > twitter: mattrsullivan > > > linkedin > > > facebook > > > > > -Original Message- > From: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carole > JohnsonSent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:17 PM > To: ecid > a...@zoominternet.netcc: > framers@lists.frameusers.com; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comsubject: > Re: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > > Rumor has it you can use a schema with those versions of FM. Should be > able > to pull in the arbortext file (if they are using flat files) > > Carole J. Johnson, > > ~~~ > Carole Johnson > Raytheon Technical Services Company LLC > System and Product Support Solutions > 8680 Balboa Avenue (Bldg 1/MS 3-M102) > San Diego, CA 92123 > Work:(858)522-2846, Fax:(858)522-2330 > > > > > From: > ecid > a...@zoominternet.netto: > > framers@lists.frameusers.com>Date: > 01/06/2010 02:10 PM > Subject: > Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > Sent by: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > > > Good afternoon Fellow Framers > > First, my setup: WXP Pro 2002 SP2, FrameMaker 8 and 9 (I have both)... > > My aircraft manufacturer composes material/documentation in Epic > Arbortext. > > I compose my material/documentation in Adobe FrameMaker. > > Is there a plug in or procedure for converting Epic Arbortext > documentation > to Adobe Framemaker. The manufacturer provided me with a DTD and I've > tried > creating an EDD, then opening the .SGM file using the newly formed EDD, > but > to no avail. > > ...just looking for a solution somewhere out here. > > All the best to all of you. > > Eduardo > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as c > arole_john...@raytheon.com. > Send list messages to > fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carole_john > son%40raytheo > n.com > > > Send administrative questions to list > ad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed
