Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11 (some progress)
Careful. Adobe recommends against having Acrobat and Adobe Reader on the same computer. They sometimes, especially if different versions, step all over each other and break things. Mike Wickham On 7/23/2013 5:37 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote: I had a brainwave and used the same pdf using the Acrobat Reader. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11 (some progress)
Eek, what a headache.Now you know why I maintained the jpegisbad.com website a few years ago…The $8/year I paid for the domain was well-worth the therapy it provided! -MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Robert CH Shell" rsh...@iafrica.com wrote:Dear Framers:Thank you for the helpful and varied responses hints and tips. I think I speak for the nameless and numberless people who live in terrortrying to earn a living with FM.This list is above all soothing and helpful.I am working through every item.Matt wrote:Robert, have you tried the Save as PDF route, with the Adobe PDF printdriver selected?Same result? YUP same result-MattCraig wrote:Subject: RE: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11Just for troubleshooting: You don't see them in FM even if you set themagnification to 4800% ?CraigDear Craig: have learnt how to magnify to that level. No sign of the lines.I believe an electron microscope won't find anything.The jpgs are not the problem. All were clipped properly in Photoshop.All the same jpgs worked fine in several prior pdf editions.The lines sometimes go right around the graphic more often one or two sidesonly.Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to make sure its border is set to None (in graphics tools).Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to None.Any change in the PDF? Set to none OK.Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to make sure its border is set to None (in graphics tools).Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to None.Any change in the PDF? NoneA new conclusion late at night...I had a brainwave and used the same pdf using the Acrobat Reader.Hey presto no lines. The problem must reside in the settings of Acrobat XI 11.0.3Any hints.I have already "repaired" same result linesErgo, FM 11 is not to blame.Rob ShellPC8 Gbyte3 terrabyte drivesWindows 7 64 bitTCS 4Creative suite CS4Flash Professional___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11
On 2013-Jul-22 1:12 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote: Dear Framers: I am stuck once more. I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route. However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE. No hairlines are visible in FM 11 I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists. A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not specific to FM I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy changing them. I am printing using the Smallest File Size option Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to make sure its border is set to None (in graphics tools). Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to None. Any change in the PDF? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11
Robert, have you tried the Save as PDF route, with the Adobe PDF print driver selected? Same result? -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 On 2013-Jul-22 1:12 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote: Dear Framers: I am stuck once more. I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route. However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE. No hairlines are visible in FM 11 I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists. A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not specific to FM I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy changing them. I am printing using the Smallest File Size option Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to make sure its border is set to None (in graphics tools). Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to None. Any change in the PDF? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11
Have you zoomed into the PDF to see if the hairline is still there? Acrobat sometimes creates display artifacts, depending on zoom level. They only appear on screen at low zoom levels and don't print. Presumably, they are rounding errors, where Acrobat rounds something up to display as one pixel, rather than rounding it down to zero. You might also try selecting the anchored frame that holds the graphic and setting the fill pattern to none. Mike Wickham On 7/22/2013 12:12 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote: Dear Framers: I am stuck once more. I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route. However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE. No hairlines are visible in FM 11 I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists. A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not specific to FM I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy changing them. I am printing using the Smallest File Size option Rob PC 8 Gbyte 3 terrabyte drives Windows 7 64 bit TCS 4 Creative suite CS4 Flash Professional ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11
Robert, be sure that your Distiller is using joboptions that have Acrobat compatibility set to Acrobat 5 or above. Acrobat 4 compatibility will produce the hairlines. That said, Mike is correct -- they do not print. Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 7/22/13 2:45 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: Have you zoomed into the PDF to see if the hairline is still there? Acrobat sometimes creates display artifacts, depending on zoom level. They only appear on screen at low zoom levels and don't print. Presumably, they are rounding errors, where Acrobat rounds something up to display as one pixel, rather than rounding it down to zero. You might also try selecting the anchored frame that holds the graphic and setting the fill pattern to none. Mike Wickham On 7/22/2013 12:12 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote: Dear Framers: I am stuck once more. I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route. However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE. No hairlines are visible in FM 11 I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists. A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not specific to FM I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy changing them. I am printing using the Smallest File Size option Rob PC 8 Gbyte 3 terrabyte drives Windows 7 64 bit TCS 4 Creative suite CS4 Flash Professional ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tm...@spot-on-creative.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tmuir%40spot-on-creative.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11
In my experience, this has happened for one of the following reasons: 1. The JPEG has the line in there as a row (or few) of single-color pixels that are different from the rest of the image - this requires fixing in an image editing program to remove. 2. The FM instance of that image has outline on the frame - perhaps in a white color? The first has proven to be the most common reason for me. My fix is to use the Trim option available in most graphics programs. The only thing to be concerned about is that editing a JPG, making changes, and then saving it back as a JPG will cause some image quality loss if you are not careful. However, some additional questions for you too: 1. Is your background white or is it some other color? Meaning, does the thin white line matter (or show enough to matter)? 2. What is the original resolution of the JPG? Is it being shrunk or expanded when it is placed in the FM file? And is the aspect ratio of the image kept unchanged when it is shrunk or expanded? 3. Is the thin line showing around all four sides of the image when PDF'ed? Or just one side (e.g., only below the image perhaps)? If you want to send a page (or two) from the FM file original and the resulting PDF output to look at, please feel free to send it along (not to the entire list though!). Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert CH Shell Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 10:13 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11 Dear Framers: I am stuck once more. I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route. However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE. No hairlines are visible in FM 11 I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists. A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not specific to FM I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy changing them. I am printing using the Smallest File Size option Rob PC 8 Gbyte 3 terrabyte drives Windows 7 64 bit TCS 4 Creative suite CS4 Flash Professional ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
