Re: decrementing number tags

2011-01-25 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Try this trick: rotate the table 180 degrees (or put it in a frame and
rotate the frame), then rotate the cells individually 180 degrees again.

 

Then you have a table upside down but text is straight and numbering should
begin at the bottom.

 

 

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Re: decrementing number tags

2011-01-25 Thread Baruch Brodersen
 What brillant, inspired idea!
Baruch Brodersen


On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu wrote:

 Try this trick: rotate the table 180 degrees (or put it in a frame and
 rotate the frame), then rotate the cells individually 180 degrees again.



 Then you have a table upside down but text is straight and numbering should
 begin at the bottom.





 Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

 iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in
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RE: decrementing number tags

2011-01-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman
HI Wim - that's a great idea!!
Thanks so much!!
Orly.


From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:11 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: decrementing number tags

Try this trick: rotate the table 180 degrees (or put it in a frame and rotate 
the frame), then rotate the cells individually 180 degrees again.

Then you have a table upside down but text is straight and numbering should 
begin at the bottom.


Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in 
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topic based information developent
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Re: decrementing number tags

2011-01-24 Thread David Spreadbury
If you don't have any cross-references in the table you could sort the table in 
reverse order. Keep in mind, most search algorithms work on the ASCII code of 
the character. After the sort the numbering will come out as 1, 10,11,2,21,3, 
etc. If you make the numbers all the same length, 01, 02, 03, etc, then they 
should come out correctly. You could then go back and remove the leading zeroes.

If you do have cross-references, they will have to be remade after the sort.

--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote:

From: Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com
Subject: decrementing number tags
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 4:03 PM

Hi All,
Any ideas about how to get numbering tags such that the numbers decrement 
instead of increment?
I tried to use a number property of  n- or n=N-1 - after setting the first 
in the series to 31
I need this because I want to create a table column with numbers starting from 
31 going down to 0 to describe error messages.
Any ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Orly

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Re: decrementing number tags

2011-01-24 Thread Les Smalley
As far as I know, FM's autonumber counters only increment, or at best remain 
unchanged, and there is no way to tel FM to evaluate the numbering in a table 
from the bottom up (although yuo can tell it to count across rows first or down 
columns first).

So David's suggestion won't work, as if you do sort the table, the 
re-evaluation that takes place will cause the numbers to appear in ascending 
order once again unless this behavior has changed in FM 9 (which I don't have 
to check it) or now FM 10.

I'm afraid the only solutions inside FM are: to manually number the items as 
you desire, and be prepared for the effort if something new is inserted (which 
may not be an issue with only 32 items, and that may be the fixed limit from 
your description); or maintain the table in ascending order on a reference 
page, and on the body page use cross-references to display the items in 
descending order.

You can do this in a package like Excel, and then import that into a FM table, 
but that will convert the formula for numbering into static text, so keep the 
spreadsheet around if you need to insert items and reimport it to replace the 
table. (Which sounds like it's more touble than its worth, especially compared 
to the import from Excel option.)

– Les Smalley
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--- On Mon, 1/24/11, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
If you don't have any cross-references in the table you could sort the table in 
reverse order. Keep in mind, most search algorithms work on the ASCII code of 
the character. After the sort the numbering will come out as 1, 10,11,2,21,3, 
etc. If you make the numbers all the same length, 01, 02, 03, etc, then they 
should come out correctly. You could then go back and remove the leading zeroes.

If you do have cross-references, they will have to be remade after the sort.

--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote:

Hi All,
Any ideas about how to get numbering tags such that the numbers decrement 
instead of increment?
I tried to use a number property of  n- or n=N-1 - after setting the first 
in the series to 31
I need this because I want to create a table column with numbers starting from 
31 going down to 0 to describe error messages.
Any ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Orly
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RE: decrementing number tags

2011-01-24 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Orly,

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--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote:

Hi All,
Any ideas about how to get numbering tags such that the numbers decrement 
instead of increment?
I tried to use a number property of  n- or n=N-1 - after setting the first 
in the series to 31
I need this because I want to create a table column with numbers starting from 
31 going down to 0 to describe error messages.
Any ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Orly


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