Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
I never thanked all for their help. Just recently, I read the article from Kevin Siegel's Weekly Skills and Drills about NOT remembering fonts. When I opened the docs with that setting, and saved them, and reset the DO remember fonts, Frame conveniently forgot all about the missing items. Kanti M. Mann | Manager, Technical Publications SeaChange International, Inc. 50 Nagog Park, Acton, MA 01720 www.schange.com | kanti.m...@schange.com 978.889.3304 This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is SeaChange International confidential. The information enclosed is intended only for the addressees herein and may not be copied or forwarded without permission from SeaChange International. Stuart Rogers 08/14/2008 10:46 AM To kanti.m...@schange.com cc framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct? kanti.m...@schange.com wrote: > Hello: > > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are > not, now that we're all using the ATCS. > > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there > anyway! > More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful. In the meantime: do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as default? Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are locally installed. That can cause font errors in FM. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com PLES RING IF AN RNSER IS REQIRD. PLEZ CNOKE IF AN RNSR IS NOT REQUID. --Owl ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
Charlie Kyle wrote > A couple weeks ago I > opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts" > message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from > Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of > the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does it > know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them? The missing fonts are listed in the Console window, along with the font that FM is substituting (either temporarily or permanently, depending on your Remember Missing Font Names setting). You can add or change font substitutions in the maker.ini file, but it may take some experimenting (back up maker.ini first!) to get the font names and syntax right. Once you have appropriate substitutions in place, you can turn off Remember Missing Font Names. From then on, when you open and then save a file, FM will make the substitutions permanent. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
Hi, Charlie: You may have noticed that FM has no Print Preview option. This is because FM's on-screen view is (nearly) WYIWIG, and has been going back many versions. FM does this by looking at the font names listed in the currently-selected printer's support file(s). You may have noticed that FM displays a message - Document has changed. Font appearance may be affected - when you change printers. So, two simple causes of the missing font message are: * Not having the fonts installed on the computer or on the hard drive of the selected printer or in the printers permanent memory. * Having the fonts in one of these places, but the currently-selected printer doesn't recognize them. One more-complex-but-simple cause is opening a file created on FM on a Macintosh on a Windows computer. (Yes, there's a FM for Mac, but it's version 7.0, and it only runs on Mac OS before OS X, or Mac's Classic pre-OS X emulation.) There's nothing wrong with Mac FM files on a PC, but there some apparently-identical font names differ in their internal font names between platforms. For details, look for Multiple_Platforms.pdf in the Documents subdirectory of FM8's FrameMaker installation directory, or in the OnlineManuals directory of pre-FM8 releases. There's a free utility, SetPrint, that selects a specified printer as the default printer when you launch FM, then restores the previously-selected printer as default when you quit FM. www.sundorne.com HTH On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charlie Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because > I certainly haven't "ignored" font issues. But "wayback" in the 90s I > realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the > font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist > and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some > straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to > relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I > opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts" > message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from > Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of > the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does it > know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them? > > Thanks, > Charlie Kyle ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because I certainly haven't "ignored" font issues. But "wayback" in the 90s I realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts" message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does it know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct? >I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes wrong. john ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
>I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes wrong. john ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
Hi Dov, Thanks for responding. I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. I feel better now that I can safely use the fonts I have with Frame 8. Thanks, Nancy Adams In a message dated 8/14/2008 12:56:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nancy, I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being "translated" either in the background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1 fonts (please stop using the term "PostScript fonts" - it means nothing since by definition, TrueType fonts are every bit as much "PostScript fonts" as are Type 1 fonts) directly mapping the glyphs in such fonts to Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with TrueType fonts and OpenType fonts. You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way you did in the past. The only problem that I am aware of is where Type 1 fonts that had strange, undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode. This is also a problem with every other Adobe application as well. (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into the Latin A through Z in a font for ease of keying. That is impossible for any Unicode- based application to effectively deal with.) - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35 AM > To: Dov Isaacs; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct? > > Hi, > > Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read into your statement, it > appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in the background into > Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I just go on to use Frame > and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I always have? > > Thanks, > Nancy Adams > > In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is > what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The > character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode. > > You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts? > mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information > including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps > a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are > experiencing and offer some assistance. > > - Dov > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM > > > > Hello: > > > > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire > > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are > > not, now that we're all using the ATCS. > > > > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there > > anyway! > > > > Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to > > fix the problem? Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate > > it in the framers archives. > > > > > > Kanti Mann **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
Nancy, I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being "translated" either in the background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1 fonts (please stop using the term "PostScript fonts" - it means nothing since by definition, TrueType fonts are every bit as much "PostScript fonts" as are Type 1 fonts) directly mapping the glyphs in such fonts to Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with TrueType fonts and OpenType fonts. You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way you did in the past. The only problem that I am aware of is where Type 1 fonts that had strange, undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode. This is also a problem with every other Adobe application as well. (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into the Latin A through Z in a font for ease of keying. That is impossible for any Unicode- based application to effectively deal with.) - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35 AM > To: Dov Isaacs; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct? > > Hi, > > Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read > into your statement, it > appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in > the background into > Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I > just go on to use Frame > and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I > always have? > > Thanks, > Nancy Adams > > In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL > PROTECTED] writes: > FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is > what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The > character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode. > > You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts? > mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information > including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps > a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are > experiencing and offer some assistance. > > - Dov > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM > > > > Hello: > > > > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire > > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are > > not, now that we're all using the ATCS. > > > > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there > > anyway! > > > > Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to > > fix the problem? Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate > > it in the framers archives. > > > > > > Kanti Mann ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello: > > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are > not, now that we're all using the ATCS. > > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there > anyway! > More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful. In the meantime: do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as default? Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are locally installed. That can cause font errors in FM. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com PLES RING IF AN RNSER IS REQIRD. PLEZ CNOKE IF AN RNSR IS NOT REQUID. --Owl ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
Hi, Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read into your statement, it appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in the background into Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I just go on to use Frame and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I always have? Thanks, Nancy Adams In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode. You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts? mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are experiencing and offer some assistance. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM > > Hello: > > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are > not, now that we're all using the ATCS. > > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there > anyway! > > Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to > fix the problem? Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate > it in the framers archives. > > > Kanti Mann ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/actiona%40aol.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode. You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts? mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are experiencing and offer some assistance. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM > > Hello: > > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are > not, now that we're all using the ATCS. > > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there > anyway! > > Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to > fix the problem? Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate > it in the framers archives. > > > Kanti Mann ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
