Re: Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
I have a somewhat similar monster project. Here's what I do: There are two versions of the manual, one with the full suite, and one without a module. Most of that module's info is covered in a few chapters, so I have two books to control which chapters are included. In the common chapters, there is some module-specific content, so there is a condition called Module_only and notModule. On top of all this, there are some province-specific differences, which are also handled by conditions. (There is also some duplication required to handle translation issues, but that's another story!). All conditions are in all chapters, just to keep it simple. AND...there are variables that are defined differently according to province. SO...I have a separate Frame file for each province and version, which contains the variables and condition settings required for that output. For example, ON_Module, ON_noModule, BC_Module, BC_noModule, etc. I import the variables and conditional text settings only from the appropriate settings file into all chapters of the appropriate book. HTH, Laurie Little Words That Work 905-947-1557 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
Verner,
I think your issue may be easy to solve. But I'd try a couple of things:
1) (optimal if it works) You can exclude chapters from your webWorks project
so that your online help works. And theory is that you can use WebWorks to
define what variables are showing and which are not. Therefore, you should be
able to maintain one singular book file, and let WebWorks help you take care of
the logic needed to define your online content.
if the variable thing in WebWorks is tricky or not stable in your tests :
2) Set your variables in the frame book files for release 14. Create your pdf.
Then go to WebWorks (the project where you have excluded the chapters you don't
need for online help) generate your online help. Make sure to save backup
copies in a clean directory of both the frame book files and all webworks
generation and output files, zipping that to keep the size down. Then go back
to your frame book and set the variables for release 15. Create your pdf. Then
generate your online help. {worked for me with WebWorks version 2003 or early
ePublisher versions}
Either option should allow you to maintain one working book file.
Though I'm not exactly sure what your variant a and b things are.
-meg
Andersen, Verner Engell VEA [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:
I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The
online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can
define what conditions to hide and what to show.
.
.
.
I have the following output combinations:
online + release 14
online + release 15
Paper + release 14 + variant a (as either conditional text or
variables)
Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables)
Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual.
I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all
files in the book and set the whole book to the various output
combinations.
On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with
conditional text definitions that are not used.
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Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
I have a somewhat similar monster project. Here's what I do: There are two versions of the manual, one with the full suite, and one without a module. Most of that module's info is covered in a few chapters, so I have two books to control which chapters are included. In the common chapters, there is some module-specific content, so there is a condition called Module_only and notModule. On top of all this, there are some province-specific differences, which are also handled by conditions. (There is also some duplication required to handle translation issues, but that's another story!). All conditions are in all chapters, just to keep it simple. AND...there are variables that are defined differently according to province. SO...I have a separate Frame file for each province and version, which contains the variables and condition settings required for that output. For example, ON_Module, ON_noModule, BC_Module, BC_noModule, etc. I import the variables and conditional text settings only from the appropriate settings file into all chapters of the appropriate book. HTH, Laurie Little Words That Work 905-947-1557
Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
Verner,
I think your issue may be easy to solve.? But I'd try a couple of things:
1) (optimal if it works)? You can exclude chapters from your webWorks project
so that your online help works. And theory is that you can use WebWorks to
define what variables are showing and which are not.? Therefore, you should be
able to maintain one singular book file, and let WebWorks help you take care of
the logic needed to define your online content.
if the variable thing in WebWorks is tricky or not stable in your tests :
2) Set your variables in the frame book files for release 14. Create your pdf.
Then go to WebWorks (the project where you have excluded the chapters you don't
need for online help) generate your online help. Make sure to save backup
copies in a clean directory of both the frame book files and all webworks
generation and output files, zipping that to keep the size down. Then go back
to your frame book and set the variables for release 15. Create your pdf. Then
generate your online help.? {worked for me?with WebWorks version 2003 or early
ePublisher versions}
Either option should allow you to maintain one working book file.?
Though I'm not exactly sure what your variant a and b things are.
-meg
"Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" asked:
I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The
online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can
define what conditions to hide and what to show.
.
.
.
I have the following output combinations:
online + release 14
online + release 15
Paper + release 14 + variant a? (as either conditional text or
variables)
Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables)
Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual.
I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all
files in the book and set the whole book to the various output
combinations.
On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with
conditional text definitions that are not used.
Re: Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
I would suggest using 1 book file for the online output and 1 book file for the paper output. When I output multiple print versions of source files, I have a unique book file and cover for each output version. In each individual cover, I set the variables and conditions. Files may appear in multiple books. To build a particular version, I open that book file, open all the books within that book file, then import the variables and conditions from the cover into all the other files in the book. I haven't done any work outputting to online Help from Frame, so can't help you with that. Good luck! Susan McDonald, Technical Writer Teradyne, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 978-370-1429 Andersen, Verner Engell VEA [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can define what conditions to hide and what to show. . . . I have the following output combinations: online + release 14 online + release 15 Paper + release 14 + variant a (as either conditional text or variables) Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables) Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual. I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all files in the book and set the whole book to the various output combinations. On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with conditional text definitions that are not used. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
I would suggest using 1 book file for the online output and 1 book file for the paper output. When I output multiple print versions of source files, I have a unique book file and cover for each output version. In each individual cover, I set the variables and conditions. Files may appear in multiple books. To build a particular version, I open that book file, open all the books within that book file, then import the variables and conditions from the cover into all the other files in the book. I haven't done any work outputting to online Help from Frame, so can't help you with that. Good luck! Susan McDonald, Technical Writer Teradyne, Inc. susan.mcdonald at teradyne.com 978-370-1429 "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" asked: I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can define what conditions to hide and what to show. . . . I have the following output combinations: online + release 14 online + release 15 Paper + release 14 + variant a (as either conditional text or variables) Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables) Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual. I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all files in the book and set the whole book to the various output combinations. On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with conditional text definitions that are not used.
Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
Hi I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can define what conditions to hide and what to show. What do you suggest for the manual order number: Variables or conditional text? How do you handle conditions that only exist in some documents, to make sure that you get the right output? I have the following output combinations: online + release 14 online + release 15 Paper + release 14 + variant a (as either conditional text or variables) Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables) Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual. I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all files in the book and set the whole book to the various output combinations. On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with conditional text definitions that are not used. Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
Hi I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can define what conditions to hide and what to show. What do you suggest for the manual order number: Variables or conditional text? How do you handle conditions that only exist in some documents, to make sure that you get the right output? I have the following output combinations: online + release 14 online + release 15 Paper + release 14 + variant a (as either conditional text or variables) Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables) Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual. I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all files in the book and set the whole book to the various output combinations. On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with conditional text definitions that are not used. Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 verner.andersen at radiometer.dk Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email.
