Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-17 Thread Debra Laroche
Hi Michael,

It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no
problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print
to .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my
book). It worked fine until a week or so ago. Now I have to save that file
as PDF for it to render as I want, then add it to the PDF file created from
the postscript file when I print the entire book. This worked fine, as I
say, until quite recently. It always baffles me when previously seamless
operations become fragmented like this is for me. I tried saving the logo as
a .png file, which didn't work either. I copied it in instead of importing
by reference; again that didn't work. The only workaround I found so far is
to do what I'm doing...

Hope that helps!
Deb

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Michael Müller-Hillebrand 
m...@cap-studio.de wrote:

 Hi,

 I am outside the proposed »collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as
 PDF” should not be used«. There are quite a few people using this and in
 automated processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don’t
 speak up.

 What is a fact for FrameMaker 9 and 10: The so-called »pristine CMYK
 output« is not working as advertised in so many situations that it is common
 wisdom to recommend _selecting_ the »Convert CMYK to RGB« checkbox (and thus
 switching to the behavior of earlier versions). Because the Print to File
 process always works this way (converting CMYK to RGB) it may appear as if
 this would be the cure for printing problems.

 Debra, what you describe is really awkward and apparently not connected to
 the CMYK issues, since you print to file. I don’t understand exactly what
 you experience. It seems you imported a graphic on your title page that used
 to be converted to PDF easily with older versions of FrameMaker but not so
 with FrameMaker 10...? Could you please share a little bit more information,
 like the format of the graphic and using which tools it was created? Maybe
 even the graphic?

 - Michael

 Am 15.03.2011 um 18:22 schrieb Debra Laroche:

  Hi!
 
  And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going
 from FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer
 show just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file
 as PDF to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of
 the rest of the book.
 
  It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before
 no longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid
 FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...
 
  Cheers, and for what it's worth,
  Deb
 
  On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com
 wrote:
  Hi Art,
 
  Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat
 for quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF”
 should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature
 ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative
 newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to
 them. For myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.
 
  YMMV,
 
  Lea

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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Bernard Gagne
Good day everyone,
As I understand it, the main problem with Save as PDF has always been what 
you have defined as your Default Printer. If it was anything other than Adobe 
PDF, then you had no end of problems. It was my understanding that with Frame 
7, Save as PDF would automatically use the Adobe PDF print definitions and 
thus work as advertised. I've never had a problem with it, maybe because my 
Default Printer under Frame is always Adobe PDF.
As always, YMMV.

Berny Gagne





From: Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:41:37 AM
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X


Hi Art,
 
Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.
 
YMMV,
Lea 
 

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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Debra Laroche
Hi!

And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going from
FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer show
just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file as PDF
to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of the
rest of the book.

It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before no
longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid
FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...

Cheers, and for what it's worth,
Deb

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com wrote:

  Hi Art,



 Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat
 for quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF”
 should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature
 ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative
 newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to
 them. For myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.



 YMMV,

 Lea




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 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Davey
 *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2011 8:07 AM
 *To:* Yves Barbion
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in
 Acrobat X



 Hi Yves,



 It’s only a workaround, but it works!



 Many thanks,

 Ant



 *From:* Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 14 March 2011 13:51
 *To:* Anthony Davey
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in
 Acrobat X



 Hi Ant

 Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

 Cheers


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 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey anthony.da...@rssb.co.uk
 wrote:

 Hi All,



 I’m trialling TCS3 and I’ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15
  landscape pages in it – out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the
 book or the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in
 portrait format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the
 landscape pages.



 I’ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from
 ‘Collectively’ to ‘Off’ and ‘Individually’, however, neither alternative
 makes any difference to the end result – all pages are portrait.  Can
 anybody suggest what settings I need to be changing, and where?



 Many thanks,

 Ant


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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Hi,

I am outside the proposed »collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” 
should not be used«. There are quite a few people using this and in automated 
processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don’t speak up.

What is a fact for FrameMaker 9 and 10: The so-called »pristine CMYK output« is 
not working as advertised in so many situations that it is common wisdom to 
recommend _selecting_ the »Convert CMYK to RGB« checkbox (and thus switching to 
the behavior of earlier versions). Because the Print to File process always 
works this way (converting CMYK to RGB) it may appear as if this would be the 
cure for printing problems.

Debra, what you describe is really awkward and apparently not connected to the 
CMYK issues, since you print to file. I don’t understand exactly what you 
experience. It seems you imported a graphic on your title page that used to be 
converted to PDF easily with older versions of FrameMaker but not so with 
FrameMaker 10...? Could you please share a little bit more information, like 
the format of the graphic and using which tools it was created? Maybe even the 
graphic?

- Michael

Am 15.03.2011 um 18:22 schrieb Debra Laroche:

 Hi!
  
 And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going from 
 FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer show 
 just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file as PDF 
 to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of the 
 rest of the book.
  
 It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before no 
 longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid 
 FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...
  
 Cheers, and for what it's worth,
 Deb
 
 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com wrote:
 Hi Art,
  
 Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
 quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” 
 should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature 
 ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative 
 newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to 
 them. For myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.
  
 YMMV,
 
 Lea

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RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi,

 I am outside the proposed »collective wisdom on this list is that Save as 
 PDF should not be used«. There are quite a few people using this and in 
 automated processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don't 
 speak up.

I try to speak up about this occasionally ... :)

For me, Save as PDF works well (perhaps better?) and have said so a few times 
in the past.

My only usual problems is when upgrading FM or Acrobat. I have to do one or two 
experiments (with the Acrobat setup) to prevent FM from crashing. After that, 
all is well till the next software upgrade.

Maybe my setups are simply different in some way? I don't know ... 

Z

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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 16.03.2011 um 15:59 schrieb Debra Laroche:

 It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no 
 problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print to 
 .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my 
 book).


Debar, recently I had the situation with a client that some graphic that was 
working OK in FrameMaker 7 and earlier started to make problems in FrameMaker 
8+. The problem was a unusual encoding of some string inside that EPS file, 
which came from FreeHand 3 or something else from the last century. Resaving 
the EPS file in a current product version was the cure.

Maybe you can just re-save that TIF image using a current version of an image 
editor and make sure to save it without LZW compression (this makes it harder 
for apps to deal with the file) or anything that reads JPG (this reduces 
quality). If the TIF is CMYK you could also try with converting to RGB.

Try one thing at a time, so you/we know what was the source of the problem.

Good luck,

- Michael

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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Hi,

I am outside the proposed ?collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? 
should not be used?. There are quite a few people using this and in automated 
processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don?t speak up.

What is a fact for FrameMaker 9 and 10: The so-called ?pristine CMYK output? is 
not working as advertised in so many situations that it is common wisdom to 
recommend _selecting_ the ?Convert CMYK to RGB? checkbox (and thus switching to 
the behavior of earlier versions). Because the Print to File process always 
works this way (converting CMYK to RGB) it may appear as if this would be the 
cure for printing problems.

Debra, what you describe is really awkward and apparently not connected to the 
CMYK issues, since you print to file. I don?t understand exactly what you 
experience. It seems you imported a graphic on your title page that used to be 
converted to PDF easily with older versions of FrameMaker but not so with 
FrameMaker 10...? Could you please share a little bit more information, like 
the format of the graphic and using which tools it was created? Maybe even the 
graphic?

- Michael

Am 15.03.2011 um 18:22 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> Hi!
>  
> And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going from 
> FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer show 
> just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file as PDF 
> to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of the 
> rest of the book.
>  
> It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before no 
> longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid 
> FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...
>  
> Cheers, and for what it's worth,
> Deb
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> Hi Art,
>  
> Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
> quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? 
> should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature 
> ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative 
> newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to 
> them. For myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.
>  
> YMMV,
> 
> Lea

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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi,

> I am outside the proposed ?collective wisdom on this list is that "Save as 
> PDF" should not be used?. There are quite a few people using this and in 
> automated processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don't 
> speak up.

I try to speak up about this occasionally ... :)

For me, "Save as PDF" works well (perhaps better?) and have said so a few times 
in the past.

My only usual problems is when upgrading FM or Acrobat. I have to do one or two 
experiments (with the Acrobat setup) to prevent FM from crashing. After that, 
all is well till the next software "upgrade".

Maybe my setups are simply different in some way? I don't know ... 

Z



Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 16.03.2011 um 15:59 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no 
> problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print to 
> .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my 
> book).


Debar, recently I had the situation with a client that some graphic that was 
working OK in FrameMaker 7 and earlier started to make problems in FrameMaker 
8+. The problem was a unusual encoding of some string inside that EPS file, 
which came from FreeHand 3 or something else from the last century. Resaving 
the EPS file in a current product version was the cure.

Maybe you can just re-save that TIF image using a current version of an image 
editor and make sure to save it without LZW compression (this makes it harder 
for apps to deal with the file) or anything that reads JPG (this reduces 
quality). If the TIF is CMYK you could also try with converting to RGB.

Try one thing at a time, so you/we know what was the source of the problem.

Good luck,

- Michael



Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-16 Thread Debra Laroche
Hi Michael,

It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no
problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print
to .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my
book). It worked fine until a week or so ago. Now I have to save that file
as PDF for it to render as I want, then add it to the PDF file created from
the postscript file when I print the entire book. This worked fine, as I
say, until quite recently. It always baffles me when previously seamless
operations become fragmented like this is for me. I tried saving the logo as
a .png file, which didn't work either. I copied it in instead of importing
by reference; again that didn't work. The only workaround I found so far is
to do what I'm doing...

Hope that helps!
Deb

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Michael M?ller-Hillebrand <
mmh at cap-studio.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am outside the proposed ?collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as
> PDF? should not be used?. There are quite a few people using this and in
> automated processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don?t
> speak up.
>
> What is a fact for FrameMaker 9 and 10: The so-called ?pristine CMYK
> output? is not working as advertised in so many situations that it is common
> wisdom to recommend _selecting_ the ?Convert CMYK to RGB? checkbox (and thus
> switching to the behavior of earlier versions). Because the Print to File
> process always works this way (converting CMYK to RGB) it may appear as if
> this would be the cure for printing problems.
>
> Debra, what you describe is really awkward and apparently not connected to
> the CMYK issues, since you print to file. I don?t understand exactly what
> you experience. It seems you imported a graphic on your title page that used
> to be converted to PDF easily with older versions of FrameMaker but not so
> with FrameMaker 10...? Could you please share a little bit more information,
> like the format of the graphic and using which tools it was created? Maybe
> even the graphic?
>
> - Michael
>
> Am 15.03.2011 um 18:22 schrieb Debra Laroche:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going
> from FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer
> show just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file
> as PDF to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of
> the rest of the book.
> >
> > It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before
> no longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid
> FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...
> >
> > Cheers, and for what it's worth,
> > Deb
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush 
> wrote:
> > Hi Art,
> >
> > Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat
> for quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF?
> should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature
> ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative
> newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to
> them. For myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.
> >
> > YMMV,
> >
> > Lea
>
> --
> ___
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> Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker
> Consulting and Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode
> Blog [de]: http://cap-studio.de/
>
>
>
>
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RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-15 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Art,

 

Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.

 

YMMV,

Lea 

 


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Davey
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:07 AM
To: Yves Barbion
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

 

Hi Yves,

 

It’s only a workaround, but it works!

 

Many thanks,

Ant

 

From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 March 2011 13:51
To: Anthony Davey
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

 

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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www.scripto.nu

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey anthony.da...@rssb.co.uk 
wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m trialling TCS3 and I’ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it – out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

 

I’ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
‘Collectively’ to ‘Off’ and ‘Individually’, however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result – all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

 

Many thanks,

Ant


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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-15 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Art,



Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.



YMMV,

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Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X



Hi Yves,



It?s only a workaround, but it works!



Many thanks,

Ant



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Sent: 14 March 2011 13:51
To: Anthony Davey
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X



Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey  
wrote:

Hi All,



I?m trialling TCS3 and I?ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it ? out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.



I?ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
?Collectively? to ?Off? and ?Individually?, however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result ? all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?



Many thanks,

Ant


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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-15 Thread Bernard Gagne
Good day everyone,
As I understand it, the main problem with "Save as PDF" has always been what 
you have defined as your Default Printer. If it was anything other than Adobe 
PDF, then you had no end of problems. It was my understanding that with Frame 
7, "Save as PDF" would automatically use the Adobe PDF print definitions and 
thus work as advertised. I've never had a problem with it, maybe because my 
Default Printer under Frame is always Adobe PDF.
As always, YMMV.

Berny Gagne





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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:41:37 AM
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X


Hi Art,

Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.

YMMV,
Lea 


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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-15 Thread Debra Laroche
Hi!

And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going from
FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer show
just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file as PDF
to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of the
rest of the book.

It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before no
longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid
FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...

Cheers, and for what it's worth,
Deb

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush  wrote:

>  Hi Art,
>
>
>
> Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat
> for quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF?
> should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature
> ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative
> newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to
> them. For myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.
>
>
>
> YMMV,
>
> Lea
>
>
>
>
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> *Software and Documentation Specialist*
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> *From:* framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Davey
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2011 8:07 AM
> *To:* Yves Barbion
> *Cc:* framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in
> Acrobat X
>
>
>
> Hi Yves,
>
>
>
> It?s only a workaround, but it works!
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ant
>
>
>
> *From:* Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barbion at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 14 March 2011 13:51
> *To:* Anthony Davey
> *Cc:* framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in
> Acrobat X
>
>
>
> Hi Ant
>
> Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> --
> Yves Barbion
> www.scripto.nu
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I?m trialling TCS3 and I?ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15
>  landscape pages in it ? out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the
> book or the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in
> portrait format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the
> landscape pages.
>
>
>
> I?ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from
> ?Collectively? to ?Off? and ?Individually?, however, neither alternative
> makes any difference to the end result ? all pages are portrait.  Can
> anybody suggest what settings I need to be changing, and where?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ant
>
>
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-14 Thread Anthony Davey
Hi All,

I'm trialling TCS3 and I've got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it - out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I've tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
'Collectively' to 'Off' and 'Individually', however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result - all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

Many thanks,
Ant

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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-14 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey anthony.da...@rssb.co.ukwrote:

 Hi All,



 I’m trialling TCS3 and I’ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15
  landscape pages in it – out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the
 book or the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in
 portrait format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the
 landscape pages.



 I’ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from
 ‘Collectively’ to ‘Off’ and ‘Individually’, however, neither alternative
 makes any difference to the end result – all pages are portrait.  Can
 anybody suggest what settings I need to be changing, and where?



 Many thanks,

 Ant

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RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-14 Thread Anthony Davey
Hi Yves,

It’s only a workaround, but it works!

Many thanks,
Ant

From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 March 2011 13:51
To: Anthony Davey
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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anthony.da...@rssb.co.ukmailto:anthony.da...@rssb.co.uk wrote:
Hi All,

I’m trialling TCS3 and I’ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it – out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I’ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
‘Collectively’ to ‘Off’ and ‘Individually’, however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result – all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

Many thanks,
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2011-03-14 Thread Anthony Davey
Hi All,

I'm trialling TCS3 and I've got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it - out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I've tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
'Collectively' to 'Off' and 'Individually', however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result - all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

Many thanks,
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-14 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I?m trialling TCS3 and I?ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15
>  landscape pages in it ? out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the
> book or the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in
> portrait format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the
> landscape pages.
>
>
>
> I?ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from
> ?Collectively? to ?Off? and ?Individually?, however, neither alternative
> makes any difference to the end result ? all pages are portrait.  Can
> anybody suggest what settings I need to be changing, and where?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ant
>
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

2011-03-14 Thread Anthony Davey
Hi Yves,

It?s only a workaround, but it works!

Many thanks,
Ant

From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 March 2011 13:51
To: Anthony Davey
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey mailto:Anthony.Davey at rssb.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi All,

I?m trialling TCS3 and I?ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it ? out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I?ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
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any difference to the end result ? all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

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Ant

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