Re: Version Control Suggestions

[Robert Lauriston]

What was the advantage of doing that over using the .fm binaries? Or
was it just that the system didn't support binaries?

I've spent a lot of time poking around in MIF files troubleshooting
problems, and I can't quite imagine doing a merge. It doesn't seem
like a practical format for that kind of workflow.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:
> MIF is the Framemaker text format. RCS or any other revision control system
> can be used to store revision histories of Framemaker documents stored in
> MIF. I wouldn't expect it to be very efficient in terms of space.
>
> Companies I have worked with have routinely controlled FM documents in RCS
> using scripts that utilized FM fmbatch to convert saved books to MIF check
> them in and out of RCS. The time involved to run the scripts tiny, but the
> storage use was large since MIFs are verbose and change many things beyond
> the actual text in the document from save to save.
>
> Craig
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions
>
> Not to my knowledge. To merge in a source-control system, the source files
> must be in a text format, such as DocBook, DITA XML, or MadCap Flare's
> proprietary XHTML.
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
>  wrote:
>> So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?
>
>
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RE: Version Control Suggestions

[Craig Ede]

MIF is the Framemaker text format. RCS or any other revision control system
can be used to store revision histories of Framemaker documents stored in
MIF. I wouldn't expect it to be very efficient in terms of space.

Companies I have worked with have routinely controlled FM documents in RCS
using scripts that utilized FM fmbatch to convert saved books to MIF check
them in and out of RCS. The time involved to run the scripts tiny, but the
storage use was large since MIFs are verbose and change many things beyond
the actual text in the document from save to save.

Craig

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:45 AM
To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions

Not to my knowledge. To merge in a source-control system, the source files
must be in a text format, such as DocBook, DITA XML, or MadCap Flare's
proprietary XHTML.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
 wrote:
> So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?


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Version Control Suggestions

[Craig Ede]

MIF is the Framemaker text format. RCS or any other revision control system
can be used to store revision histories of Framemaker documents stored in
MIF. I wouldn't expect it to be very efficient in terms of space.

Companies I have worked with have routinely controlled FM documents in RCS
using scripts that utilized FM fmbatch to convert saved books to MIF check
them in and out of RCS. The time involved to run the scripts tiny, but the
storage use was large since MIFs are verbose and change many things beyond
the actual text in the document from save to save.

Craig

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:45 AM
To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions

Not to my knowledge. To merge in a source-control system, the source files
must be in a text format, such as DocBook, DITA XML, or MadCap Flare's
proprietary XHTML.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
 wrote:
> So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?

Version Control Suggestions

[Robert Lauriston]

What was the advantage of doing that over using the .fm binaries? Or
was it just that the system didn't support binaries?

I've spent a lot of time poking around in MIF files troubleshooting
problems, and I can't quite imagine doing a merge. It doesn't seem
like a practical format for that kind of workflow.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:
> MIF is the Framemaker text format. RCS or any other revision control system
> can be used to store revision histories of Framemaker documents stored in
> MIF. I wouldn't expect it to be very efficient in terms of space.
>
> Companies I have worked with have routinely controlled FM documents in RCS
> using scripts that utilized FM fmbatch to convert saved books to MIF check
> them in and out of RCS. The time involved to run the scripts tiny, but the
> storage use was large since MIFs are verbose and change many things beyond
> the actual text in the document from save to save.
>
> Craig
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions
>
> Not to my knowledge. To merge in a source-control system, the source files
> must be in a text format, such as DocBook, DITA XML, or MadCap Flare's
> proprietary XHTML.
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
>  wrote:
>> So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?
>
>

Re: Version Control Suggestions

[Robert Lauriston]

Not to my knowledge. To merge in a source-control system, the source
files must be in a text format, such as DocBook, DITA XML, or MadCap
Flare's proprietary XHTML.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
 wrote:
> So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?
>
>
>
> From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:26 AM
> To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions
>
>
>
> If you need to do that, unstructured FrameMaker's not a good tool since you
> can't merge to .fm files.
>
> Structured FrameMaker could work, but if you're migrating from unstructured
> FrameMaker, there may be better choices, such as MadCap Flare.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
>  wrote:
>
> I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to
> ensure that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated
> throughout the following versions.
>
>
>
> I know that our developers use Perforce to do a “merge” so all changes get
> into the main files.
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RE: Version Control Suggestions

[Sonnenberg, Aryeh]

So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?

From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:26 AM
To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions

If you need to do that, unstructured FrameMaker's not a good tool since you 
can't merge to .fm files.
Structured FrameMaker could work, but if you're migrating from unstructured 
FrameMaker, there may be better choices, such as MadCap Flare.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh 
mailto:aryeh.sonnenb...@emc.com>> wrote:
I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to ensure 
that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated throughout the 
following versions.

I know that our developers use Perforce to do a "merge" so all changes get into 
the main files.
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Version Control Suggestions

[Robert Lauriston]

Not to my knowledge. To merge in a source-control system, the source
files must be in a text format, such as DocBook, DITA XML, or MadCap
Flare's proprietary XHTML.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
 wrote:
> So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?
>
>
>
> From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:26 AM
> To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions
>
>
>
> If you need to do that, unstructured FrameMaker's not a good tool since you
> can't merge to .fm files.
>
> Structured FrameMaker could work, but if you're migrating from unstructured
> FrameMaker, there may be better choices, such as MadCap Flare.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh
>  wrote:
>
> I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to
> ensure that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated
> throughout the following versions.
>
>
>
> I know that our developers use Perforce to do a ?merge? so all changes get
> into the main files.

Version Control Suggestions

[Sonnenberg, Aryeh]

So, in the unstructured environment, there is no tool available for this?

From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:26 AM
To: Sonnenberg, Aryeh
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Version Control Suggestions

If you need to do that, unstructured FrameMaker's not a good tool since you 
can't merge to .fm files.
Structured FrameMaker could work, but if you're migrating from unstructured 
FrameMaker, there may be better choices, such as MadCap Flare.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh mailto:Aryeh.Sonnenberg at emc.com>> wrote:
I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to ensure 
that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated throughout the 
following versions.

I know that our developers use Perforce to do a "merge" so all changes get into 
the main files.
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Re: Version Control Suggestions

[Robert Lauriston]

If you need to do that, unstructured FrameMaker's not a good tool since you
can't merge to .fm files.

Structured FrameMaker could work, but if you're migrating from unstructured
FrameMaker, there may be better choices, such as MadCap Flare.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh <
aryeh.sonnenb...@emc.com> wrote:

> I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to
> ensure that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated
> throughout the following versions.
>
> ** **
>
> I know that our developers use Perforce to do a “merge” so all changes get
> into the main files.
>
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Version Control Suggestions

[Sonnenberg, Aryeh]

I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to ensure 
that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated throughout the 
following versions.

I know that our developers use Perforce to do a "merge" so all changes get into 
the main files.

It there something like this for FrameMaker? I am using 10, soon upgrading to 
11.

Thank you

Aryeh Sonnenberg
Technical Writer,  Flash Products Division
EMC Center of Excellence. Israel
7 Hamada St., Herzelia 46733, Israel
Tel: +972-9-9732099  Fax: +972-9-771-8000 Cell: +972-54-499-1733
http://israel.emc.com/coe


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[Robert Lauriston]

If you need to do that, unstructured FrameMaker's not a good tool since you
can't merge to .fm files.

Structured FrameMaker could work, but if you're migrating from unstructured
FrameMaker, there may be better choices, such as MadCap Flare.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Sonnenberg, Aryeh <
Aryeh.Sonnenberg at emc.com> wrote:

> I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to
> ensure that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated
> throughout the following versions.
>
> ** **
>
> I know that our developers use Perforce to do a ?merge? so all changes get
> into the main files.
>
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Version Control Suggestions

[Sonnenberg, Aryeh]

I am working on multiple versions of docs, and finding it difficult to ensure 
that changes that get added to an earlier version get propogated throughout the 
following versions.

I know that our developers use Perforce to do a "merge" so all changes get into 
the main files.

It there something like this for FrameMaker? I am using 10, soon upgrading to 
11.

Thank you

Aryeh Sonnenberg
Technical Writer,  Flash Products Division
EMC Center of Excellence. Israel
7 Hamada St., Herzelia 46733, Israel
Tel: +972-9-9732099  Fax: +972-9-771-8000 Cell: +972-54-499-1733
http://israel.emc.com/coe


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