Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Matt Sullivan]

I'll defer to any corrections Scott has on this topic, but I don't think Adobe will consider this a bug.One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that many formatting attributes can be controlled via Fm's interactive properties.Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the Read/Write rules in your structured application. To change that behavior, you would change the files that make up the structured application.
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On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas htho...@avbasesystems.com wrote:Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was looking for an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored Frame dialog and you're right, it does set the alignment attribute too.I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set that for each image!HeatherScott Prentice s...@leximation.com , 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:Hi Heather...I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to editing the image attributes directly (might work with some of them). Select the anchored frame and choose Special  Anchored Frame, then select the desired alignment. This will set the frame alignment and *should* set the alignment attribute as well. There are a number of other properties/attributes that work this way as well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI" property setting options rather than setting things via attributes.You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w rules, and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's definitely a bug.BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly. :oCheers,...scottOn 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I did change the default setting in the EDD and then import the element definitions into my template. I know that the EDD was imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that I set and leaving it as no value, but instead is making it center aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it actually says at the bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image properties dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I happily excused your unexpected brevity because you sent your message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when you are at your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find the dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I can't set the element attribute using my EDD, then I would like to report it. I have read your response on the following Adobe forum post:http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in my rules:attribute "align" { is fm attribute "align"; is fm property alignment; value "left" is fm property value align left;Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would be nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.Thanks again!HeatherPS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the time I post to the time my message appears on the list.___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Scott Prentice]

  
  
Just to be clear .. I don't consider the
  inability to have the changing of an attribute affect the
  corresponding object property to be a bug (although it would be
  nice if it did) .. but if you're not able to modify the default
  value of an attribute/property by changing the underlying EDD or
  r/w rules, that would be a bug. I though that you could do that
  for image alignment, but can't check right now.
  
  ...scott
  
  

On 6/13/13 7:54 AM, Matt Sullivan
  wrote:


  
  I'll defer to any corrections Scott has
  on this topic, but I don't think Adobe will consider this a bug.
  
  
  One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that
many formatting attributes can be controlled via Fm's
interactive properties.
  
  
  Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the
Read/Write rules in your structured application. To change that
behavior, you would change the files that make up the structured
application.

  
-Matt
  
  Matt R. Sullivan
  co-authorPublishing
  Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11
  P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com
  
  @mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com




  On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas htho...@avbasesystems.com
wrote:
  
  
Thank you very much,
  Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was looking for
  an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored
  Frame dialog and you're right, it does set the alignment
  attribute too.
  
  I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not
  have to set that for each image!
  
  Heather
  
  
  Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com
, 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:

  Hi Heather...
  
  I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't
  respond to editing the image attributes directly
  (might work with some of them). Select the
  anchored frame and choose Special  Anchored
  Frame, then select the desired alignment. This
  will set the frame alignment and *should* set the
  alignment attribute as well. There are a number of
  other properties/attributes that work this way as
  well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI"
  property setting options rather than setting
  things via attributes.
  
  You should be able set the default value in the
  EDD and the r/w rules, and it should honor that
  when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's
  definitely a bug.
  
  BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly. :o
  
  Cheers,
  
  ...scott
  
  

On 6/11/13 12:19
  PM, Heather Thomas wrote:


  Thank you, Nadine and Scott,
for your replies.

Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify
in my first post). Yes, I want to change the
default alignment of images. I did change the
default setting in the EDD and then import the
element definitions into my template. I know
that the EDD was imported because when I set
choices vs. string, I could see the choices in
the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why
FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that
I set and leaving it as no value, but
instead is making it center aligned when I save.
What's especially mysterious is that it actually
says at the bottom of the Attributes pod "align
Type: Optional Choice Default: left" but doesn't
use that default value.

Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the
default image properties dialog. Don't try
setting the element attribute." I happily
 

Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Matt Sullivan]

I'll defer to any corrections Scott has on this topic, but I don't think Adobe 
will consider this a bug.

One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that many formatting 
attributes can be controlled via Fm's interactive properties.

Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the Read/Write rules in 
your structured application. To change that behavior, you would change the 
files that make up the structured application.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas  
wrote:

> Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was looking 
> for an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored Frame dialog and 
> you're right, it does set the alignment attribute too.
> 
> I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set that for 
> each image!
> 
> Heather 
> 
> 
> Scott Prentice  , 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:
> Hi Heather...
> 
> I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to editing the image 
> attributes directly (might work with some of them). Select the anchored frame 
> and choose Special > Anchored Frame, then select the desired alignment. This 
> will set the frame alignment and *should* set the alignment attribute as 
> well. There are a number of other properties/attributes that work this way as 
> well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI" property setting options 
> rather than setting things via attributes.
> 
> You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w rules, and it 
> should honor that when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's definitely 
> a bug.
> 
> BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.  :o
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> ...scott
> 
> 
> On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:
>> Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.
>> 
>> Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). Yes, I 
>> want to change the default alignment of images. I did change the default 
>> setting in the EDD and then import the element definitions into my template. 
>> I know that the EDD was imported because when I set choices vs. string, I 
>> could see the choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why 
>> FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that I set and leaving it as > value>, but instead is making it center aligned when I save. What's 
>> especially mysterious is that it actually says at the bottom of the 
>> Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice Default: left" but doesn't use 
>> that default value.
>> 
>> Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image properties 
>> dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I happily excused your 
>> unexpected brevity because you sent your message from your phone. :) Perhaps 
>> sometime when you are at your computer, could you please elaborate on this? 
>> I can't find the dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I 
>> can't set the element attribute using my EDD, then I would like to report 
>> it. I have read your response on the following Adobe forum post: 
>> http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the original poster there, the 
>> Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me. Manually setting the attribute 
>> to left does what I would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have 
>> the following in my rules:
>> attribute "align" {
>> is fm attribute "align";
>> 
>> is fm property alignment;
>> 
>> value "left" is fm property value align left;
>> 
>> Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would be nice if 
>> we could set the default alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.
>> 
>> Thanks again!
>> Heather
>> 
>> PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the time I 
>> post to the time my message appears on the list.
> 
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Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Scott Prentice]

Just to be clear .. I don't consider the inability to have the changing 
of an attribute affect the corresponding object property to be a bug 
(although it would be nice if it did) .. but if you're not able to 
modify the default value of an attribute/property by changing the 
underlying EDD or r/w rules, that would be a bug. I though that you 
could do that for image alignment, but can't check right now.

...scott


On 6/13/13 7:54 AM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> I'll defer to any corrections Scott has on this topic, but I don't 
> think Adobe will consider this a bug.
>
> One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that many 
> formatting attributes can be controlled via Fm's interactive properties.
>
> Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the Read/Write 
> rules in your structured application. To change that behavior, you 
> would change the files that make up the structured application.
>
>
> -Matt
>
> Matt R. Sullivan
> *co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
> *
> *P:*714.798.7596 |*C:*714.585.2335 |matt at mattrsullivan.com 
> 
>
> @mattrsullivan 
> LinkedIn
>  
> facebook
>  
> mattrsullivan.com
>  
> 
>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was 
>> looking for an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored 
>> Frame dialog and you're right, it does set the alignment attribute too.
>>
>> I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set 
>> that for each image!
>>
>> Heather
>>
>>
>> Scott Prentice mailto:sp10 at leximation.com>> , 
>> 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:
>>
>> Hi Heather...
>>
>> I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to
>> editing the image attributes directly (might work with some of
>> them). Select the anchored frame and choose Special > Anchored
>> Frame, then select the desired alignment. This will set the frame
>> alignment and *should* set the alignment attribute as well. There
>> are a number of other properties/attributes that work this way as
>> well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI" property setting
>> options rather than setting things via attributes.
>>
>> You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w
>> rules, and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it
>> doesn't, that's definitely a bug.
>>
>> BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.  :o
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ...scott
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:
>>> Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.
>>>
>>> Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first
>>> post). Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I
>>> did change the default setting in the EDD and then import the
>>> element definitions into my template. I know that the EDD was
>>> imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the
>>> choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker
>>> is ignoring the default of left that I set and leaving it as >> value>, but instead is making it center aligned when I save.
>>> What's especially mysterious is that it actually says at the
>>> bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice
>>> Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.
>>>
>>> Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image
>>> properties dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I
>>> happily excused your unexpected brevity because you sent your
>>> message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when you are at
>>> your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find
>>> the dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I
>>> can't set the element attribute using my EDD, then I would like
>>> to report it. I have read your response on the following Adobe
>>> forum post:http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the
>>> original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works properly
>>> for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I would
>>> expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in
>>> my rules:
>>> /attribute "align" {/
>>>
>>> /is fm attribute "align";/
>>>
>>> /is fm property alignment;/
>>>
>>> /value "left" is fm property value align left;/
>>>
>>> Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would
>>> be nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and
>>> have FM obey it.
>>>
>>>  

Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Heather...

I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to editing the 
image attributes directly (might work with some of them). Select the 
anchored frame and choose Special  Anchored Frame, then select the 
desired alignment. This will set the frame alignment and *should* set 
the alignment attribute as well. There are a number of other 
properties/attributes that work this way as well. In general, it's set 
up to use the GUI property setting options rather than setting things 
via attributes.


You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w rules, 
and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's 
definitely a bug.


BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.  :o

Cheers,

...scott


On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:

Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.

Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). 
Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I did change 
the default setting in the EDD and then import the element definitions 
into my template. I know that the EDD was imported because when I set 
choices vs. string, I could see the choices in the Attributes pod. 
What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that 
I set and leaving it as no value, but instead is making it center 
aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it actually 
says at the bottom of the Attributes pod align Type: Optional Choice 
Default: left but doesn't use that default value.


Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to use the default image properties 
dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute. I happily excused 
your unexpected brevity because you sent your message from your phone. 
:) Perhaps sometime when you are at your computer, could you please 
elaborate on this? I can't find the dialog you mentioned, and if this 
is actually a bug that I can't set the element attribute using my EDD, 
then I would like to report it. I have read your response on the 
following Adobe forum post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. 
Like the original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works 
properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I 
would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in 
my rules:

/attribute align {/

/is fm attribute align;/

/is fm property alignment;/

/value left is fm property value align left;/

Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would be 
nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.


Thanks again!
Heather

PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the 
time I post to the time my message appears on the list.


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Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Heather Thomas]

Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.

Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). Yes, I want 
to change the default alignment of images. I did change the default setting in 
the EDD and then import the element definitions into my template. I know that 
the EDD was imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the 
choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring 
the default of left that I set and leaving it as no value, but instead is 
making it center aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it 
actually says at the bottom of the Attributes pod align Type: Optional Choice 
Default: left but doesn't use that default value.

Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to use the default image properties dialog. 
Don't try setting the element attribute. I happily excused your unexpected 
brevity because you sent your message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when 
you are at your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find the 
dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I can't set the 
element attribute using my EDD, then I would like to report it. I have read 
your response on the following Adobe forum post: 
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the original poster there, the 
Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to 
left does what I would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the 
following in my rules:
attribute align {

    is fm attribute align;

    is fm property alignment;

    value left is fm property value align left;Like I said before, it's not 
critical or anything, but it would be nice if we could set the default 
alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.

Thanks again!
Heather

PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the time I 
post to the time my message appears on the list.
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Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Heather...

I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to editing the 
image attributes directly (might work with some of them). Select the 
anchored frame and choose Special > Anchored Frame, then select the 
desired alignment. This will set the frame alignment and *should* set 
the alignment attribute as well. There are a number of other 
properties/attributes that work this way as well. In general, it's set 
up to use the "GUI" property setting options rather than setting things 
via attributes.

You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w rules, 
and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's 
definitely a bug.

BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.  :o

Cheers,

...scott


On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:
> Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.
>
> Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). 
> Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I did change 
> the default setting in the EDD and then import the element definitions 
> into my template. I know that the EDD was imported because when I set 
> choices vs. string, I could see the choices in the Attributes pod. 
> What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that 
> I set and leaving it as , but instead is making it center 
> aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it actually 
> says at the bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice 
> Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.
>
> Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image properties 
> dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I happily excused 
> your unexpected brevity because you sent your message from your phone. 
> :) Perhaps sometime when you are at your computer, could you please 
> elaborate on this? I can't find the dialog you mentioned, and if this 
> is actually a bug that I can't set the element attribute using my EDD, 
> then I would like to report it. I have read your response on the 
> following Adobe forum post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. 
> Like the original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works 
> properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I 
> would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in 
> my rules:
> /attribute "align" {/
>
> /is fm attribute "align";/
>
> /is fm property alignment;/
>
> /value "left" is fm property value align left;/
>
> Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would be 
> nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.
>
> Thanks again!
> Heather
>
> PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the 
> time I post to the time my message appears on the list.

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Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Heather Thomas]

Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.

Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). Yes, I want 
to change the default alignment of images. I did change the default setting in 
the EDD and then import the element definitions into my template. I know that 
the EDD was imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the 
choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring 
the default of left that I set and leaving it as , but instead is 
making it center aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it 
actually says at the bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice 
Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.

Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image properties dialog. 
Don't try setting the element attribute." I happily excused your unexpected 
brevity because you sent your message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when 
you are at your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find the 
dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I can't set the 
element attribute using my EDD, then I would like to report it. I have read 
your response on the following Adobe forum post: 
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the original poster there, the 
Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to 
left does what I would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the 
following in my rules:
attribute "align" {

??? is fm attribute "align";

??? is fm property alignment;

??? value "left" is fm property value align left;Like I said before, it's not 
critical or anything, but it would be nice if we could set the default 
alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.

Thanks again!
Heather

PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the time I 
post to the time my message appears on the list.
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Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Heather Thomas]

Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was looking for 
an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored Frame dialog and you're 
right, it does set the alignment attribute too.

I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set that for 
each image!

Heather 


Scott Prentice  , 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:
   Hi Heather...

   I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to   
editing the image attributes directly (might work with some of   them). 
Select the anchored frame and choose Special > Anchored   Frame, then 
select the desired alignment. This will set the frame   alignment and 
*should* set the alignment attribute as well. There   are a number of other 
properties/attributes that work this way as   well. In general, it's set up 
to use the "GUI" property setting   options rather than setting things via 
attributes.

   You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w   
rules, and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it   doesn't, 
that's definitely a bug.

   BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.? :o

   Cheers,

   ...scott


  On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas   wrote:
  Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.

   Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first 
  post). Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images.   I did 
change the default setting in the EDD and then import   the element 
definitions into my template. I know that the EDD   was imported 
because when I set choices vs. string, I could   see the choices in the 
Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why   FrameMaker is ignoring the 
default of left that I set and   leaving it as , but instead 
is making it   center aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious 
is   that it actually says at the bottom of the Attributes pod  
 "align Type: Optional Choice Default: left" but doesn't use   that 
default value.

   Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image  
 properties dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I   
happily excused your unexpected brevity because you sent your   message 
from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when you are at   your computer, 
could you please elaborate on this? I can't   find the dialog you 
mentioned, and if this is actually a bug   that I can't set the element 
attribute using my EDD, then I   would like to report it. I have read 
your response on the   following Adobe forum post:   
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the original   poster 
there, the Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me.   Manually 
setting the attribute to left does what I would   expect as well. I 
have also ensured that I have the following   in my rules:
   attribute "align" {   

??? is fm attribute "align";   

??? is fm property alignment;   

??? value "left" is fm property value align left;   Like I said before, 
it's not critical or anything, but it   would be nice if we could set 
the default alignment in the EDD   and have FM obey it.

   Thanks again!
   Heather

   PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours  
 from the time I post to the time my message appears on the   list.


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Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Writer]

Heather, you don't say what version of FM you're using, and I'm not totally 
clear what you are doing, but I'll throw this out there...

You want to change the default alignment of images, right?

Did you actually change the default setting in the EDD? If so, did you then 
import the new EDD settings into the concept.template.fm file?

Nadine

Hello everyone,

Here is my scenario:

1. Create a new concept.
2. Insert fig within conbody. pimage is inserted automatically 
within fig (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert 
image.
3. When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: align 
Type: Optional Choice Default: left. However, the actual value in the table 
is no value and the image appears center aligned.

4. Save the concept.
5. Close the concept.
6. Re-open the concept.
7. image now has align = center.
Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element image.
Name: align     Choice     Optional 
Choices:    left, right, center, current
Default:    left

I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for a 
Required Attribute.

This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
a left alignment whenever an image is added.

Thanks in advance for any response!

Heather
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Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

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Just use the default image properties dialog. Don't try setting the element 
attribute. 

...scott

Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity. 

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Heather Thomas htho...@avbasesystems.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 Here is my scenario:
 Create a new concept.
 Insert fig within conbody. pimage is inserted automatically within 
 fig (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert image.
 When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: align Type: 
 Optional Choice Default: left. However, the actual value in the table is 
 no value and the image appears center aligned.
 Save the concept.
 Close the concept.
 Re-open the concept.
 image now has align = center.
 Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element image.
 
 Name: align Choice Optional 
 Choices:left, right, center, current
 Default:left
 
 I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
 the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for 
 a Required Attribute.
 
 This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
 image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
 this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
 a left alignment whenever an image is added.
 
 Thanks in advance for any response!
 
 Heather
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Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Writer]

Heather, you don't say what version of FM you're using, and I'm not totally 
clear what you are doing, but I'll throw this out there...

You want to change the default alignment of images, right?

Did you actually change the default setting in the EDD? If so, did you then 
import the new EDD settings into the concept.template.fm file?

Nadine

>Hello everyone,
>
>Here is my scenario:
>
>1. Create a new concept.
>2. Insert  within .  is inserted automatically 
>within  (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert 
>.
>3. When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: "align 
>Type: Optional Choice Default: left". However, the actual value in the table 
>is " and the image appears center aligned.
>
>4. Save the concept.
>5. Close the concept.
>6. Re-open the concept.
>7.  now has align = center.
>Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element .
>Name: align ??? Choice ??? Optional 
>Choices:??? left, right, center, current
>Default:??? left
>
>I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
>the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for a 
>Required Attribute.
>
>This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
>image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
>this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
>a left alignment whenever an image is added.
>
>Thanks in advance for any response!
>
>Heather

Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Scott Prentice]

Just use the default image properties dialog. Don't try setting the element 
attribute. 

...scott

Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity. 

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Heather Thomas  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here is my scenario:
> Create a new concept.
> Insert  within .  is inserted automatically within 
>  (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert .
> When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: "align Type: 
> Optional Choice Default: left". However, the actual value in the table is 
> " and the image appears center aligned.
> Save the concept.
> Close the concept.
> Re-open the concept.
>  now has align = center.
> Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element .
> 
> Name: align Choice Optional 
> Choices:left, right, center, current
> Default:left
> 
> I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
> the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for 
> a Required Attribute.
> 
> This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
> image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
> this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
> a left alignment whenever an image is added.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any response!
> 
> Heather
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[Heather Thomas]

Hello everyone,

Here is my scenario:
Create a new concept.Insert  within .  is inserted 
automatically within  (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I 
only insert .When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom 
says: "align Type: Optional Choice Default: left". However, the actual value in 
the table is " and the image appears center aligned.
Save the concept.Close the concept.Re-open the concept. now has align = 
center.

Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element .
Name: align ??? Choice ??? Optional 
Choices:??? left, right, center, current
Default:??? left

I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for a 
Required Attribute.

This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how this 
works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to a left 
alignment whenever an image is added.

Thanks in advance for any response!

Heather
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