Re: best method to store template version
Where is the template revision history maintained - in a reference page in the template, or as a separate document that you post somewhere? On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:27 PM, William Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use two conditional text tags in my templates. TBD is for stuff the writers want to discuss with engineers, and Writers_Note is for stuff the writers only want to share with each other. I keep the template version number as a variable under the Writers_Note condition on the cover master page. If they update an existing work to a newer template, they need to update this variable manually. If they start a book from scratch, they have it by default. The only other thing I would suggest is keeping a very detailed revision history for your templates: this has enabled me to narrow down legacy books to the proper template in short order, even when the template version variable was missing or wrong. --William Karene Millar wrote: Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. Thanks! Karene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
best method to store template version
Where is the template revision history maintained - in a reference page in the template, or as a separate document that you post somewhere? On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:27 PM, William Abernathy wrote: > I use two conditional text tags in my templates. "TBD" is for stuff the > writers > want to discuss with engineers, and "Writers_Note" is for stuff the > writers only > want to share with each other. I keep the template version number as a > variable > under the Writers_Note condition on the cover master page. If they update > an > existing work to a newer template, they need to update this variable > manually. > If they start a book from scratch, they have it by default. > > The only other thing I would suggest is keeping a very detailed revision > history > for your templates: this has enabled me to narrow down legacy books to the > proper template in short order, even when the template version variable > was > missing or wrong. > > --William > > Karene Millar wrote: > > Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) > > > > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company > > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to > > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a > > reference page. > > > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Karene > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as vallipow at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com
Re: best method to store template version
Rene L. Stephenson Mother of 3, Wife, and Entreprenuer (see the SuperWoman cape flapping in the breeze?!) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think of life like driving your car: the rear view mirror is very small compared to the side windows and to the front windshield where it's placed for convenience. If you spend your time watching the rear view mirror or looking over your shoulder, you'll surely wreck, because that's only helpful for going BACKWARDS, not moving forward! - Rene Stephenson - Original Message From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:39:09 AM Subject: RE: best method to store template version Hi, I use a variable to store the template version. However, others preferred a more striking method. They would append the version (and/or date) to the template file name, e.g. template_080423.fm Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karene Millar Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:45 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: best method to store template version Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. Thanks! Karene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
best method to store template version
Template information should be embedded in the template, not linked. Just stick your information in a text box at the bottom of the first reference page Karene. That way it's out of sight and out of mind until you need it. The first of the reference pages typically (and by default) only carries a few 'line' graphics so I leave this page for lines and template information only in all my documents and as a result, can see the template information in a standard format and location. My template information consists of name, number, date, author, copyright, default dictionary and intended use statements. This takes ten lines and I use 9pt text so there is plenty of room on the page. I use other pages for logo and non-line graphics. As for Peter's information, in 12 years of using FrameMaker, I never knew that you could do that because I have never identified a reason to look for such an option. Now that I know it is there, it might be a nice way of finding boilerplate information where different bits and pieces are actually used based on the template in use. Things like technical specifications, company addresses, reference manuals et al. would be nice links to have at times, particularly when you haven't touched a document for a while and want to locate the information sources. Thanks for the tip Peter. Cheers, Bruce -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 6:50 AM To: Fred Ridder Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: best method to store template version One of the little-known FrameMaker facts is that you can "hyperlink" from a cross-reference in a "template text frame" aka "master-page dummy frame" to an external document, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, just as on a document body page. Use this method to store more template documentation than fits into one frame; another benefit is that you can store all the template documentation and tutorials in one location. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Karene Millar asked: > > > > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current > company > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best > place to > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or > perhaps on a > reference page. > > > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. > > My own preference is to document templates in the dummy body text > frame on the master pages. Anything that is contained in the body > frame on a master page does not appear on the body pages, ever; only > the "background" (e.g. header and footer) frames of the master pages > hold content that actually appears on the body pages. > > One advantage to putting the template meta-data on a master page is > that it's much easier to find it there (particurly if you put it on > one of the default master pages) than to have to find the right > reference pages. And unlike a variable, you have *lots* of room to > describe the template (e.g. what has been changed/added since the > last version) and even show examples as well as identifying the > template version by number and/or date. > > -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moo-man at optusnet.com.au. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moo-man%40optusnet.com.a u Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM
best method to store template version
I use two conditional text tags in my templates. "TBD" is for stuff the writers want to discuss with engineers, and "Writers_Note" is for stuff the writers only want to share with each other. I keep the template version number as a variable under the Writers_Note condition on the cover master page. If they update an existing work to a newer template, they need to update this variable manually. If they start a book from scratch, they have it by default. The only other thing I would suggest is keeping a very detailed revision history for your templates: this has enabled me to narrow down legacy books to the proper template in short order, even when the template version variable was missing or wrong. --William Karene Millar wrote: > Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) > > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a > reference page. > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. > > Thanks! > > Karene
best method to store template version
Hi, I use a variable to store the template version. However, others preferred a more striking method. They would append the version (and/or date) to the template file name, e.g. template_080423.fm Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Karene Millar > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:45 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: best method to store template version > > Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) > > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a > reference page. > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. > > Thanks! > > Karene
best method to store template version
Rene L. Stephenson Mother of 3, Wife, and Entreprenuer (see the SuperWoman cape flapping in the breeze?!) Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com Think of life like driving your car: the rear view mirror is very small compared to the side windows and to the front windshield where it's placed for convenience. If you spend your time watching the rear view mirror or looking over your shoulder, you'll surely wreck, because that's only helpful for going BACKWARDS, not moving forward! - Rene Stephenson - Original Message From: "Reng, Dr. Winfried" <wr...@tycoint.com> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:39:09 AM Subject: RE: best method to store template version Hi, I use a variable to store the template version. However, others preferred a more striking method. They would append the version (and/or date) to the template file name, e.g. template_080423.fm Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Karene Millar > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:45 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: best method to store template version > > Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) > > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a > reference page. > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. > > Thanks! > > Karene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
best method to store template version
Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. Thanks! Karene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: best method to store template version
Karene Millar asked: I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. My own preference is to document templates in the dummy body text frame on the master pages. Anything that is contained in the body frame on a master page does not appear on the body pages, ever; only the background (e.g. header and footer) frames of the master pages hold content that actually appears on the body pages. One advantage to putting the template meta-data on a master page is that it's much easier to find it there (particurly if you put it on one of the default master pages) than to have to find the right reference pages. And unlike a variable, you have *lots* of room to describe the template (e.g. what has been changed/added since the last version) and even show examples as well as identifying the template version by number and/or date. -Fred Ridder _ Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: best method to store template version
Karene, Welcome to Framers. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on the list, including Adobe employees who sometimes answer questions and make announcements. How about storing the version information in the FM metadata? File File Info. There is room for some descriptive info there. Another way is on a master page that is not used in the template body pages, or as you mentioned, on a reference page. But those would be less likely seen by the users. HTH, Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karene Millar Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:45 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: best method to store template version Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. Thanks! Karene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
best method to store template version
Karene Millar asked: > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a > reference page. > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. My own preference is to document templates in the dummy body text frame on the master pages. Anything that is contained in the body frame on a master page does not appear on the body pages, ever; only the "background" (e.g. header and footer) frames of the master pages hold content that actually appears on the body pages. One advantage to putting the template meta-data on a master page is that it's much easier to find it there (particurly if you put it on one of the default master pages) than to have to find the right reference pages. And unlike a variable, you have *lots* of room to describe the template (e.g. what has been changed/added since the last version) and even show examples as well as identifying the template version by number and/or date. -Fred Ridder _ Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL
best method to store template version
Karene, Welcome to Framers. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on the list, including Adobe employees who sometimes answer questions and make announcements. How about storing the version information in the FM metadata? File > File Info. There is room for some descriptive info there. Another way is on a master page that is not used in the template body pages, or as you mentioned, on a reference page. But those would be less likely seen by the users. HTH, Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Karene Millar Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:45 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: best method to store template version Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. Thanks! Karene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
best method to store template version
One of the little-known FrameMaker facts is that you can "hyperlink" from a cross-reference in a "template text frame" aka "master-page dummy frame" to an external document, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, just as on a document body page. Use this method to store more template documentation than fits into one frame; another benefit is that you can store all the template documentation and tutorials in one location. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Karene Millar asked: > > > > I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company > > and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to > > store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a > > reference page. > > > > To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the > > template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify > > the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. > > My own preference is to document templates in the dummy body text > frame on the master pages. Anything that is contained in the body frame > on a master page does not appear on the body pages, ever; only the > "background" (e.g. header and footer) frames of the master pages > hold content that actually appears on the body pages. > > One advantage to putting the template meta-data on a master page > is that it's much easier to find it there (particurly if you put it on one > of the default master pages) than to have to find the right reference > pages. And unlike a variable, you have *lots* of room to describe the > template (e.g. what has been changed/added since the last version) > and even show examples as well as identifying the template version > by number and/or date. > > -Fred Ridder
best method to store template version
All of the aforementioned options are good. If you want the version visible to users, put it on a master page and conditionalize it so they can hide it when producing the final doc. -Huntley
best method to store template version
If it's version number and date, you want it to be imported when you import the template. And handy for those wanting to check it. So I'd put it in a User Variable. The template author would have to remember to update the variable when s/he edited the template, but for everyone else the transfer of the information would be transparent and easily accessible. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
best method to store template version
Hi I'm new to this group, but not to FrameMaker :) I am responsible for maintaining the templates at my current company and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the best place to store the template version. Ideas are: in a variable or perhaps on a reference page. To be clear - I have a version number and date associated with the template so when you have a document you can look at it and identify the template version/date to see if it is using the latest templates. Thanks! Karene
