off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
I've been slow to acknowledge some great ideas and suggestions. Thanks everybody. Currently grappling with the transition from FM6 on XP to FM9 on Win 7. No doubt there will be more questions to follow... :) Jo. -Original Message- From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de] Sent: 21 October 2010 06:28 To: Jo Watkiss; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: AW: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Hi Jo, one of more solutions, following with e-drawings and Acrobat 8 or 9 Pro Ext.: 1. Open Acrobat 8 Pro 3D or 9 Pro Ext. 2. Open the drawing with e-drawings, move it in the position you like it. 3. Push PRTSC and the graphic from e-drawings will save in Acrobat, you can save it as u3d in PDF. 4. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Other way: 1. Open the Solidworks original file with Acrobat 8 Pro 3D Toolkit, Acrobat 9 Pro Ext. 3D Previewer or Take DEEP EXPLORATION from Right Hemisphere. 2. Now you can reduce objects and save it as u3d. 2. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Add-On: If you like to set links in FrameMaker to views and animations in you u3d and to create a 3D PDF, then take SQUIDDS 3D Communication Package (www.squidds.de/en/3dpdf) - Georg Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers.
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
I've been slow to acknowledge some great ideas and suggestions. Thanks everybody. Currently grappling with the transition from FM6 on XP to FM9 on Win 7. No doubt there will be more questions to follow... :) Jo. -Original Message- From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de] Sent: 21 October 2010 06:28 To: Jo Watkiss; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: AW: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Hi Jo, one of more solutions, following with e-drawings and Acrobat 8 or 9 Pro Ext.: 1. Open Acrobat 8 Pro 3D or 9 Pro Ext. 2. Open the drawing with e-drawings, move it in the position you like it. 3. Push PRTSC and the graphic from e-drawings will save in Acrobat, you can save it as u3d in PDF. 4. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Other way: 1. Open the Solidworks original file with Acrobat 8 Pro 3D Toolkit, Acrobat 9 Pro Ext. 3D Previewer or Take DEEP EXPLORATION from Right Hemisphere. 2. Now you can reduce objects and save it as u3d. 2. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Add-On: If you like to set links in FrameMaker to views and animations in you u3d and to create a 3D PDF, then take SQUIDDS 3D Communication Package (www.squidds.de/en/3dpdf) - Georg Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
AW: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Hi Jo, one of more solutions, following with e-drawings and Acrobat 8 or 9 Pro Ext.: 1. Open Acrobat 8 Pro 3D or 9 Pro Ext. 2. Open the drawing with e-drawings, move it in the position you like it. 3. Push PRTSC and the graphic from e-drawings will save in Acrobat, you can save it as u3d in PDF. 4. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Other way: 1. Open the Solidworks original file with Acrobat 8 Pro 3D Toolkit, Acrobat 9 Pro Ext. 3D Previewer or Take DEEP EXPLORATION from Right Hemisphere. 2. Now you can reduce objects and save it as u3d. 2. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Add-On: If you like to set links in FrameMaker to views and animations in you u3d and to create a 3D PDF, then take SQUIDDS 3D Communication Package (www.squidds.de/en/3dpdf) - Georg Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers.
AW: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Hi Jo, one of more solutions, following with e-drawings and Acrobat 8 or 9 Pro Ext.: 1. Open Acrobat 8 Pro 3D or 9 Pro Ext. 2. Open the drawing with e-drawings, move it in the position you like it. 3. Push PRTSC and the graphic from e-drawings will save in Acrobat, you can save it as u3d in PDF. 4. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Other way: 1. Open the Solidworks original file with Acrobat 8 Pro 3D Toolkit, Acrobat 9 Pro Ext. 3D Previewer or Take DEEP EXPLORATION from Right Hemisphere. 2. Now you can reduce objects and save it as u3d. 2. Import this in your FrameMaker file. Add-On: If you like to set links in FrameMaker to views and animations in you u3d and to create a 3D PDF, then take SQUIDDS 3D Communication Package (www.squidds.de/en/3dpdf) - Georg Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
This is another reason I request the .easm files configured for eDrawings. I import the PDF into Adobe Illustrator and it comes in as vector art. I then can change the line weights delete unwanted lines if needed, use the masks, and add the other elements such as callouts. I did an entire parts manual this way. This same client had some very large SolidWorks files that I could not handle so I taught the engineer how to save the file as .easm, open in eDrawings and then make the PDF. When I needed specific components or views, I sat with him to get what I needed. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. ltc.writer at comcast.net > -Original Message- > From: Alison Craig [mailto:Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:10 PM > To: Tim Lewis; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > Tim: > > What if you need to add "stuff" to the drawings, like I do? Can you do that in the > format you're describing? > > The AI files I get from the Mechanical engineers do not contain Part Numbers or > tool descriptions (for Service personnel). I also change the colour of some items > so they stand out from the B&W line drawings as well as add arrows to ensure the > correct part is identified with its part name and number. > > FYI: I got an e-mail from R&D yesterday. They were just at a SolidWorks demo > where they saw "3D Via Composer". I haven't done my homework yet, but > apparently it would allow me to grab a view and do things to it then pull it directly > into FrameMaker. It also allows for HTML conversion and video creation: > http://www.hawkridgesys.com/products/3dvia-composer/. The drawback is that a > single-seat server edition is $6,000. > > Alison > > Alison Craig, Technical Writer > Ultrasonix Medical Corporation > Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 > E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > I like using the SolidWorks eDrawings and often prefer it because too many times > the engineers are either too busy to give me the drawings or the views I need. It > has been far easier to ask for .easm files that have been saved for eDrawings. > Then I open the file, rotate it to show what I need and hide those elements that I do > not need. Then I print the result to a PDF, which I can import into Illustrator if > needed. > > Tim Lewis > Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. > ltc.writer at comcast.net > > > -Original Message- > Jo: > > According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about > what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work > involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks > is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. > > Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? > > If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds > getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts > or muffins ;-)). > > In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been > happy with the results. > > Alison > > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. > > We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is > supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to > manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. > Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' > - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. > > > I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need > as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks > licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make > do with the eDrawing. > > I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when > absolutely necessary. > > Cheers, > Jo > > ___
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
This is another reason I request the .easm files configured for eDrawings. I import the PDF into Adobe Illustrator and it comes in as vector art. I then can change the line weights delete unwanted lines if needed, use the masks, and add the other elements such as callouts. I did an entire parts manual this way. This same client had some very large SolidWorks files that I could not handle so I taught the engineer how to save the file as .easm, open in eDrawings and then make the PDF. When I needed specific components or views, I sat with him to get what I needed. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. ltc.wri...@comcast.net > -Original Message- > From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:10 PM > To: Tim Lewis; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > Tim: > > What if you need to add "stuff" to the drawings, like I do? Can you do that in the > format you're describing? > > The AI files I get from the Mechanical engineers do not contain Part Numbers or > tool descriptions (for Service personnel). I also change the colour of some items > so they stand out from the B&W line drawings as well as add arrows to ensure the > correct part is identified with its part name and number. > > FYI: I got an e-mail from R&D yesterday. They were just at a SolidWorks demo > where they saw "3D Via Composer". I haven't done my homework yet, but > apparently it would allow me to grab a view and do things to it then pull it directly > into FrameMaker. It also allows for HTML conversion and video creation: > http://www.hawkridgesys.com/products/3dvia-composer/. The drawback is that a > single-seat server edition is $6,000. > > Alison > > Alison Craig, Technical Writer > Ultrasonix Medical Corporation > Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 > E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > I like using the SolidWorks eDrawings and often prefer it because too many times > the engineers are either too busy to give me the drawings or the views I need. It > has been far easier to ask for .easm files that have been saved for eDrawings. > Then I open the file, rotate it to show what I need and hide those elements that I do > not need. Then I print the result to a PDF, which I can import into Illustrator if > needed. > > Tim Lewis > Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. > ltc.wri...@comcast.net > > > -Original Message- > Jo: > > According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about > what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work > involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks > is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. > > Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? > > If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds > getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts > or muffins ;-)). > > In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been > happy with the results. > > Alison > > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. > > We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is > supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to > manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. > Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' > - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. > > > I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need > as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks > licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make > do with the eDrawing. > > I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when > absolutely necessary. > > Cheers, > Jo > > ___ > > > You are currently s
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Tim: What if you need to add "stuff" to the drawings, like I do? Can you do that in the format you're describing? The AI files I get from the Mechanical engineers do not contain Part Numbers or tool descriptions (for Service personnel). I also change the colour of some items so they stand out from the B&W line drawings as well as add arrows to ensure the correct part is identified with its part name and number. FYI: I got an e-mail from R&D yesterday. They were just at a SolidWorks demo where they saw "3D Via Composer". I haven't done my homework yet, but apparently it would allow me to grab a view and do things to it then pull it directly into FrameMaker. It also allows for HTML conversion and video creation: http://www.hawkridgesys.com/products/3dvia-composer/. The drawback is that a single-seat server edition is $6,000. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf I like using the SolidWorks eDrawings and often prefer it because too many times the engineers are either too busy to give me the drawings or the views I need. It has been far easier to ask for .easm files that have been saved for eDrawings. Then I open the file, rotate it to show what I need and hide those elements that I do not need. Then I print the result to a PDF, which I can import into Illustrator if needed. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. ltc.wri...@comcast.net > -Original Message- Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Tim: What if you need to add "stuff" to the drawings, like I do? Can you do that in the format you're describing? The AI files I get from the Mechanical engineers do not contain Part Numbers or tool descriptions (for Service personnel). I also change the colour of some items so they stand out from the B&W line drawings as well as add arrows to ensure the correct part is identified with its part name and number. FYI: I got an e-mail from R&D yesterday. They were just at a SolidWorks demo where they saw "3D Via Composer". I haven't done my homework yet, but apparently it would allow me to grab a view and do things to it then pull it directly into FrameMaker. It also allows for HTML conversion and video creation: http://www.hawkridgesys.com/products/3dvia-composer/. The drawback is that a single-seat server edition is $6,000. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf I like using the SolidWorks eDrawings and often prefer it because too many times the engineers are either too busy to give me the drawings or the views I need. It has been far easier to ask for .easm files that have been saved for eDrawings. Then I open the file, rotate it to show what I need and hide those elements that I do not need. Then I print the result to a PDF, which I can import into Illustrator if needed. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. ltc.writer at comcast.net > -Original Message- Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
I like using the SolidWorks eDrawings and often prefer it because too many times the engineers are either too busy to give me the drawings or the views I need. It has been far easier to ask for .easm files that have been saved for eDrawings. Then I open the file, rotate it to show what I need and hide those elements that I do not need. Then I print the result to a PDF, which I can import into Illustrator if needed. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. ltc.writer at comcast.net > -Original Message- Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
I like using the SolidWorks eDrawings and often prefer it because too many times the engineers are either too busy to give me the drawings or the views I need. It has been far easier to ask for .easm files that have been saved for eDrawings. Then I open the file, rotate it to show what I need and hide those elements that I do not need. Then I print the result to a PDF, which I can import into Illustrator if needed. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. ltc.wri...@comcast.net > -Original Message- Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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For what it's worth, I worked with the Solidworks free viewer, and it seemed pretty powerful, although not very intuitive. After playing around with it for a couple of hours, I was able to create narrow sections to isolate the views I wanted. From a single 3D Solidworks file, I was able to create front- and rear-view PDFs of different sizes (250 KB and 150 KB, respectively), so presumably some of the original elements were removed from the final vector files. On 2010-10-18 13:19, Alison Craig wrote: > Jo: > > According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about > what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* > work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your > SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. > > Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? > > If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few > seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some > doughnuts or muffins ;-)). > > In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has > been happy with the results. > > Alison > > Alison Craig, Technical Writer > Ultrasonix Medical Corporation > Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 > E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at > lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. > > We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) > that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks > eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we > need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' > - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. > > > I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the > illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would > have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In > our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. > > I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector > only when absolutely necessary. > > Cheers, > Jo > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5542 (20101018) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >
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See if there is an option in Corel to flatten the layers. I think Visio gives you this option. That might increase the rendering speed in the PDF. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Oct-10 11:27 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: > Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. > > We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) > that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks > eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we > need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' > - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. > > > I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the > illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would > have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In > our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. > > I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector > only when absolutely necessary. > > Cheers, > Jo > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
For what it's worth, I worked with the Solidworks free viewer, and it seemed pretty powerful, although not very intuitive. After playing around with it for a couple of hours, I was able to create narrow sections to isolate the views I wanted. From a single 3D Solidworks file, I was able to create front- and rear-view PDFs of different sizes (250 KB and 150 KB, respectively), so presumably some of the original elements were removed from the final vector files. On 2010-10-18 13:19, Alison Craig wrote: Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jow...@magma.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5542 (20101018) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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See if there is an option in Corel to flatten the layers. I think Visio gives you this option. That might increase the rendering speed in the PDF. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Oct-10 11:27 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Try saving from the source program to DXF, opening it in Corel, saving as WMF, and importing the WMF into Frame using File>Import>File. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 15-Oct-10 12:04 PM, Jo Watkiss wrote: > Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge > there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or > forum to help. > > > > I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into > FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors > draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. > > > > > The path we are taking is: > > Print from e-drawings to .ps file > > Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end > result is the same) > > Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal > > > > I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because > they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). > > > > If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a > more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. > > > > Thanks, > > Jo Watkiss > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
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Try saving from the source program to DXF, opening it in Corel, saving as WMF, and importing the WMF into Frame using File>Import>File. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 15-Oct-10 12:04 PM, Jo Watkiss wrote: Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Hi Jo Indeed, I think the drawings are too complex to be rendered fast onscreen (in PDF). I've had a similar problem a couple of years ago with an Illustrator vector graphic which had A LOT of gradient fills. We fixed the problem by saving the graphic as a pixel image (.png) instead of a vector graphic. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Jo: I am currently incorporating SolidWorks (2009) mechanical drawings into an unstructured FM 9 Service Manual. I have not yet created a PDF of the entire book, but a PDF of a sample drawing page, opens quite quickly. This is my process: "My" mechanical engineer creates the drawings from a full rendition of our product - which is massively complex and involves dozens of SolidWorks files. However, when he has completed the view I need, he saves it directly to a much simpler AI file. I use Illustrator and convert the AI to an EPS and add all the markings I need re: part numbers, tool types, etc. The original AI file is maybe 1MB in size (the final EPS is larger) and whether in AI or EPS format, it allows me to manipulate any line within the drawing (I believe this is a function of SolidWorks 2009. In earlier versions, the Mechanical engineer had to manipulate the drawing for me as it was not nearly as AI friendly). I then import the finished EPS by reference into the file I want (each drawing is a separate file, although they are all part of the same Appendix in the Book). So far, I have no complaints with performance when I open a single sample drawing saved to PDF, although I think my completed Service Manual PDF will likely end up being huge. HTH, Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:05 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Jo: I am currently incorporating SolidWorks (2009) mechanical drawings into an unstructured FM 9 Service Manual. I have not yet created a PDF of the entire book, but a PDF of a sample drawing page, opens quite quickly. This is my process: "My" mechanical engineer creates the drawings from a full rendition of our product - which is massively complex and involves dozens of SolidWorks files. However, when he has completed the view I need, he saves it directly to a much simpler AI file. I use Illustrator and convert the AI to an EPS and add all the markings I need re: part numbers, tool types, etc. The original AI file is maybe 1MB in size (the final EPS is larger) and whether in AI or EPS format, it allows me to manipulate any line within the drawing (I believe this is a function of SolidWorks 2009. In earlier versions, the Mechanical engineer had to manipulate the drawing for me as it was not nearly as AI friendly). I then import the finished EPS by reference into the file I want (each drawing is a separate file, although they are all part of the same Appendix in the Book). So far, I have no complaints with performance when I open a single sample drawing saved to PDF, although I think my completed Service Manual PDF will likely end up being huge. HTH, Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:05 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I had to bring in a Solidworks file for an illustration recently. I tried it a few ways. If I recall correctly, I ended up printing from Solidworks to Adobe PDF. In my case, I had to open the PDF in Illustrator for some edits and then save it again as PDF. Then I brought the PDF into the Frame doc. I don't notice any delay when viewing a PDF of the document created from Frame, but then I don't think the document is as complex. I used a section view of the 3D Solidworks object. On 2010-10-15 06:04, Jo Watkiss wrote: > Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge > there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or > forum to help. > > > > I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into > FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors > draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. > > > > > The path we are taking is: > > Print from e-drawings to .ps file > > Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end > result is the same) > > Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal > > > > I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because > they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). > > > > If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a > more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. > > > > Thanks, > > Jo Watkiss > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5533 (20101015) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >
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Sounds like the entire drawing is being converted (which with thousands of components is a lot of layers), but you only really need the skin or outer layer. You'll probably have to have one of the CAD guys toggle that on or off before they generate the PDF. I'd also look on the Solidworks site for file viewers and browsers. Most CAD outfits offer these for free, and many of them can generate a PDF (if not automagically, by printing to the Acrobat printer, and that's likely to be a version you can use. Art Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com ? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Writer wrote: > ?I used to convert CAD drawings to PDF, and then import them into FM. It > worked beautifully. You could try that. > > Nadine > > On 10/15/2010 6:04 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: >> >> Framers, ?I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge >> there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or >> forum to help. >> >> >> >> I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into >> FrameMaker and then to PDF. ?However in the resulting PDF, the vectors >> draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. >> >> >> >> >> The path we are taking is: >> >> Print from e-drawings to .ps file >> >> Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end >> result is the same) >> >> Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal >> >> >> >> I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because >> they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). >> >> >> >> If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a >> more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jo Watkiss >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
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Hi Jo, I would try a different path. Go directly from the drawing's .ps file to PDF, then import the PDF into FrameMaker, then go to PDF from FrameMaker. This may give you better results and it would avoid the unnecessary step of using CorelDraw. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
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I used to convert CAD drawings to PDF, and then import them into FM. It worked beautifully. You could try that. Nadine On 10/15/2010 6:04 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: > Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge > there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or > forum to help. > > > > I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into > FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors > draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. > > > > > The path we are taking is: > > Print from e-drawings to .ps file > > Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end > result is the same) > > Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal > > > > I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because > they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). > > > > If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a > more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. > > > > Thanks, > > Jo Watkiss > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Hi Jo Indeed, I think the drawings are too complex to be rendered fast onscreen (in PDF). I've had a similar problem a couple of years ago with an Illustrator vector graphic which had A LOT of gradient fills. We fixed the problem by saving the graphic as a pixel image (.png) instead of a vector graphic. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Hi Jo, I would try a different path. Go directly from the drawing's .ps file to PDF, then import the PDF into FrameMaker, then go to PDF from FrameMaker. This may give you better results and it would avoid the unnecessary step of using CorelDraw. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
I had to bring in a Solidworks file for an illustration recently. I tried it a few ways. If I recall correctly, I ended up printing from Solidworks to Adobe PDF. In my case, I had to open the PDF in Illustrator for some edits and then save it again as PDF. Then I brought the PDF into the Frame doc. I don't notice any delay when viewing a PDF of the document created from Frame, but then I don't think the document is as complex. I used a section view of the 3D Solidworks object. On 2010-10-15 06:04, Jo Watkiss wrote: Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jow...@magma.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5533 (20101015) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Sounds like the entire drawing is being converted (which with thousands of components is a lot of layers), but you only really need the skin or outer layer. You'll probably have to have one of the CAD guys toggle that on or off before they generate the PDF. I'd also look on the Solidworks site for file viewers and browsers. Most CAD outfits offer these for free, and many of them can generate a PDF (if not automagically, by printing to the Acrobat printer, and that's likely to be a version you can use. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Writer wrote: > I used to convert CAD drawings to PDF, and then import them into FM. It > worked beautifully. You could try that. > > Nadine > > On 10/15/2010 6:04 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: >> >> Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge >> there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or >> forum to help. >> >> >> >> I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into >> FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors >> draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. >> >> >> >> >> The path we are taking is: >> >> Print from e-drawings to .ps file >> >> Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end >> result is the same) >> >> Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal >> >> >> >> I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because >> they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). >> >> >> >> If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a >> more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jo Watkiss >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. >> >> Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
I used to convert CAD drawings to PDF, and then import them into FM. It worked beautifully. You could try that. Nadine On 10/15/2010 6:04 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Framers, I know this is way off topic - but knowing how much knowledge there is on here, I'm hoping somebody can point me to a good resource or forum to help. I'm trying to get vector images from Solidworks e-drawings into FrameMaker and then to PDF. However in the resulting PDF, the vectors draw so slowly on the page that it is causing problems for our readers. The path we are taking is: Print from e-drawings to .ps file Open .ps file in CorelDraw and save as .eps (or .wmf or .pdf - the end result is the same) Import .eps into Frame and then make PDF as normal I think the source of the problem is the original .ps files, because they are so complex (some images have 38,000+ objects in them). If anybody knows how I can achieve better results, or can direct me to a more appropriate forum or user group, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jo Watkiss ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
