Re: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Paul Findon]

On 8 Jun 2006, at 14:51, Steve Rickaby wrote:

Well, it is to FrameMaker users on Mac, as my experience is that the 
FrameMaker 6 help reader is broken when used from Classic, and the 
help files cannot be reached. It typically produces messages such as 
'The file 'fm6.hlp' couldn't be opened or couldn't be found because of 
an error #-35' (-35 = 'file not found').


Could this be one of those Classic apps that breaks with 10.4 Tiger? 
Works OK for me with 10.3.9.


Also, in OS X, Apple's Preview application is a much nicer PDF reader 
for manuals than QuickHelp.


Ah! FrameMaker 6 does indeed use QuickHelp, as I'm sometimes reminded 
when I inadvertently press the Help key /-:


FrameMaker 7's help for Mac opens in Internet Explorer. Need I say 
more?


You can change this to any Web browser you like. I've set mine to 
Safari. See

 for details.

Paul

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re: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Steve Rickaby]

At 14:47 +0300 8/6/06, Shlomo Perets wrote:

>I am afraid that I do not understand why -- other than for printing purposes 
>-- a single large PDF is more useful than the exact same information available 
>from within FrameMaker as a topic-based online help (where the search is much 
>more effective than Acrobat's Find function).

Hi Shlomo

Well, it is to FrameMaker users on Mac, as my experience is that the FrameMaker 
6 help reader is broken when used from Classic, and the help files cannot be 
reached. It typically produces messages such as 'The file 'fm6.hlp' couldn't be 
opened or couldn't be found because of an error #-35' (-35 = 'file not found').

Also, in OS X, Apple's Preview application is a much nicer PDF reader for 
manuals than QuickHelp.

FrameMaker 7's help for Mac opens in Internet Explorer. Need I say more?
-- 
Steve
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re: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Peter Gold]

At 2:47 PM +0300 6/8/06, Shlomo Perets wrote:
I am afraid that I do not understand why -- other than for printing 
purposes -- a single large PDF is more useful than the exact same 
information available from within FrameMaker as a topic-based online 
help (where the search is much more effective than Acrobat's Find 
function).


I agree with Shlomo! I've been using the bookmark that I added to my 
browser's toolbar, and also a desktop shortcut, both of which point 
to the Help main menu page - help.html in the Help folder of the 
FrameMaker installation folder - to open the help system quickly, 
independent of FrameMaker being open.


BTW, anyone with Acrobat can convert a web help system into a single 
PDF (through File > Create PDF > From Web Page, pointing to the help 
main menu page).


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
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re: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Shlomo Perets]

I am afraid that I do not understand why -- other than for printing 
purposes -- a single large PDF is more useful than the exact same 
information available from within FrameMaker as a topic-based online help 
(where the search is much more effective than Acrobat's Find function).


BTW, anyone with Acrobat can convert a web help system into a single PDF 
(through File > Create PDF > From Web Page, pointing to the help main menu 
page).



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat


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RE: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:22 +0100 8/6/06, Phil Heron wrote:

>Also interesting that it was created in March 2002. Has it just been
>sitting on a shelf unused since then?

Ah, I missed that: forgot to look at the metadata. That makes the use of 
FrameMaker for Mac a lot less interesting than it might have been.
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RE: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Phil Heron]

Also interesting that it was created in March 2002. Has it just been
sitting on a shelf unused since then?

Still, I'm very pleased to see it available now.

Phil Heron

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At 17:10 -0400 7/6/06, Art Campbell wrote:

>Most recent posts by Monica Valdez
>On-line help is now available as a downloadable PDF - 01:46pm Jun 7,
>2006 Pacific - All,
>
>After much cajoling and patience persistence, my contact at Adobe has 
>convinced the "powers that be" that it really would be helpful to many,

>many FrameMaker users to have the entire on-line FrameMaker Help as a 
>downloadable PDF. Voila!
>
>http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_help.pdf

Interesting to note that this document was created by 'Adobe
Instructional Publishing' using FrameMaker 6 and Acrobat Distiller 5.0
for Mac ;-)

Thanks for the link, Art: a fantastic resource.

[Cross-posted to 'FrameMaker for OS X' as I know they'll find it useful
too.]
--
Steve
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Re: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Steve Rickaby]

At 17:10 -0400 7/6/06, Art Campbell wrote:

>Most recent posts by Monica Valdez
>On-line help is now available as a downloadable PDF - 01:46pm Jun 7,
>2006 Pacific - All,
>
>After much cajoling and patience persistence, my contact at Adobe has
>convinced the "powers that be" that it really would be helpful to
>many, many FrameMaker users to have the entire on-line FrameMaker Help
>as a downloadable PDF. Voila!
>
>http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_help.pdf

Interesting to note that this document was created by 'Adobe Instructional 
Publishing' using FrameMaker 6 and Acrobat Distiller 5.0 for Mac ;-)

Thanks for the link, Art: a fantastic resource.

[Cross-posted to 'FrameMaker for OS X' as I know they'll find it useful too.]
-- 
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RE: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[rebecca officer]

In my Acrobat (5 Pro), I picked File > Open Web Page and pasted the URL into 
the dialog box. Acrobat cheerfully downloaded it for me.

It's a 14M file.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> "Don and Judy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/06/06 14:01 >>>
Art:

That puppy is so huge, I can't view it. Where to I go to simply download it?
I tried backspacing the address but got a page not found.

~ Don Spencer

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Recently posted on Adobe's FM User Forum:



Most recent posts by Monica Valdez
On-line help is now available as a downloadable PDF - 01:46pm Jun 7,
2006 Pacific - All,

After much cajoling and patience persistence, my contact at Adobe has
convinced the "powers that be" that it really would be helpful to
many, many FrameMaker users to have the entire on-line FrameMaker Help
as a downloadable PDF. Voila!

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_help.pdf 

Yeah!!!..

***
It rocks. Thank you Monica!
Art

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RE: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

[Don and Judy]

Art:

That puppy is so huge, I can't view it. Where to I go to simply download it?
I tried backspacing the address but got a page not found.

~ Don Spencer

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Subject: Entire FM Help available as a PDF


Recently posted on Adobe's FM User Forum:



Most recent posts by Monica Valdez
On-line help is now available as a downloadable PDF - 01:46pm Jun 7,
2006 Pacific - All,

After much cajoling and patience persistence, my contact at Adobe has
convinced the "powers that be" that it really would be helpful to
many, many FrameMaker users to have the entire on-line FrameMaker Help
as a downloadable PDF. Voila!

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_help.pdf

Yeah!!!..

***
It rocks. Thank you Monica!
Art

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