[Framework-Team] review deadline: this monday

2008-10-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Might I remind everyone that the review deadline is this Monday? Will
someone gather the results and report them?

Wichert.

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RE: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 244: Portlet management improvements

2008-10-24 Thread Jon Stahl




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framework-team-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny Bloemendaal
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:47 AM
> Cc: framework-team@lists.plone.org Team
> Subject: Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 244: Portlet management
improvements
> 
> On 17 okt 2008, at 01:29, Jon Stahl wrote:
> 
> > One other thought to contribute to this topic:
> >
> > Right now, the system renders all placeful portlets, then all group
> > portlets, then all type portlets.
> >
> 
> Grouping is bad. Especially if you allow some form or ordering. No
> user wants to be bound by an arbriary technical reason for grouping.
> 
> > If a user wants to have portlets in a "mixed" order, that is pretty
> > much
> > impossible.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we can add a simple "weight" value to each portlet, then
order
> > portlets by weight, regardless of whether they are place, group or
> > type
> > portlets?
> >
> > There are some UI considerations, and maybe this is too invasive.
But
> > we get it a fair amount.
> >
> 
> Weight? Why that? Why not allow them to be mixed as the user wants?
> Why that grouping at all? It's a technical reason not a usability
> reason. Just allow them to be mixed and you are done. I even would
> like to suggest to have the option to mix them on a user bases with
> drag and drop and store the order in cookies or something like that.
> We have that here in our intranet together with collapsible support
> and that works really well. But that's another topic ;-).

I think control of ordering should (mostly) be a site-admin task, except
in the intranet situations you describe where it might be pushed to the
user (along with other portlet control).  Other than that, I think we're
saying the same thing.

:Jon

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Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 246: View for rendering events as an iCalendar file

2008-10-24 Thread Tom Lazar
having looked at the diff (and having witnessed its creation on the  
plane ;-) i'd hereby like to +1 the plip, as well as the  
implementation. it's a small, useful enhancement and i would like to  
keep it small. let's keep refactoring ATCT for another day and plip ;-)


cheers,

tom


On 21.10.2008, at 16:48, Andreas Zeidler wrote:


On 20.10.2008, at 19:21, "Alec Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:51 AM, David Glick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:










Why is a calendar support mixin used, instead of adapting to
ICalendarSupport?  The latter would make it easier to also implement
calendar support for non-AT content.


that's because all that code already existed in atct.  i've merely  
added a single view putting a few pieces together -- please see the  
diffs in that branch.  so the question is rather why atct is using  
mixins instead of adapters!? ;)


apart from that, i'd agree that the latter would make things more  
flexible, of course.



No mixins please.


+1, but like i said, i didn't put it in nor was i about to take over  
maintenance of atct... ;)



andi

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