Re: [Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude]

2009-04-06 Thread Ethan Jucovy
>>> On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

 This is possibly a valid concern for us as well. I wonder if there is
 room for optimization here - our startup time is already quite slow.

Yeah, I've heard reports of autoinclude being slow (though I haven't
experienced it myself) and I have a pretty good idea why.  This came
up a little over a month ago on zope-dev:
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-February/034846.html (and
the following thread)

I haven't had a chance to follow up or take any action on this, but if
this is a blocking concern for Plone 3.3 I can try to implement a
first pass optimization in the coming week.  If anyone else wants to
take a stab at it first, I outlined my thoughts at
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-March/034874.html

The most time-consuming thing here will likely be getting a good test
case to demonstrate worthwhile speed improvements, rather than the
code itself.  I'm thinking I'll try it with z3ext.

egj

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Re: [Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude]

2009-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman

On 4/6/09 4:03 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote:

On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
This is possibly a valid concern for us as well. I wonder if there is 
room for optimization here - our startup time is already quite slow.


have you informed/asked ethan about this?


I couldn't find a working email address for him since he left TOPP.

Wichert.



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Re: [Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude]

2009-04-06 Thread Andreas Zeidler

On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
This is possibly a valid concern for us as well. I wonder if there  
is room for optimization here - our startup time is already quite  
slow.


have you informed/asked ethan about this?


andi

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[Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude]

2009-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
This is possibly a valid concern for us as well. I wonder if there is 
room for optimization here - our startup time is already quite slow.



 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude
Date:   Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:11:52 +0600
From:   Nikolay Kim 
To: Wichert Akkerman 
CC: check...@zope.org




 Previously Nikolay Kim wrote:


 Log message for revision 98920:
   do not use z3c.autoinclude



 Out of curiosity: why?



too slow. i create z3c.recipe.autoinclude instead of z3c.autoinclude.
z3c.recipe.autoinclude generates static list of includes
startup time with autoinclude ~ 40 sec.
with static list ~ 17 sec

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