Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:52, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -1 from me therefore. > > Is that a -1 on site actions, or a -1 on moving them at all? I am not entirely convinced about the need to move them. So I am -1 on site actions, -0 on moving them at all. This may be a +0 if there is a more l logical destination. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions
Martijn Pieters wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:07, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to site actions. Let me also register my reservations against moving the link to site actions; managing portlets is contextual, not global. Site actions is a set of global actions and moving the link there will lead to a lot of confusion. -1 from me therefore. Is that a -1 on site actions, or a -1 on moving them at all? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:07, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to site > actions. Let me also register my reservations against moving the link to site actions; managing portlets is contextual, not global. Site actions is a set of global actions and moving the link there will lead to a lot of confusion. -1 from me therefore. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions
Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of spare time I would appreciate it though :) Hi Wichert, don't worry too much. At least I planned to start reviewing only after the conference sprints. I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to site actions. While I think I see your point I'm not sure it's the right place to move it to. First, I agree that the current situation isn't perfect. But: those assignments are context depended and site actions are typically used for (site) global settings. Now while you can always link to the right URL, of course, I'm not sure that that would be less confusing. From this POV the document actions might be more appropriate, don't know. Or some new, location specific management category could be introduced which could also be home for some of the things we currently put on the edit form for lack of a better place (like 'exclude from navigation' to give one example). I did mention that on the web-version of the PLIP. Site actions works since it mostly contains rarely-used items, which includes manage portlets. But you are very correct in that document actions would technically be more correct. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of spare time I would appreciate it though :) Hi Wichert, don't worry too much. At least I planned to start reviewing only after the conference sprints. I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to site actions. While I think I see your point I'm not sure it's the right place to move it to. First, I agree that the current situation isn't perfect. But: those assignments are context depended and site actions are typically used for (site) global settings. Now while you can always link to the right URL, of course, I'm not sure that that would be less confusing. From this POV the document actions might be more appropriate, don't know. Or some new, location specific management category could be introduced which could also be home for some of the things we currently put on the edit form for lack of a better place (like 'exclude from navigation' to give one example). What do others think? Raphael Motivation == Both portlet columns feature a "manage portlets" link at the bottom. This has several problems: * the location of the link and the fact that each column has its own manage portlet link leads users to believe that that link will go to a page to configure that specific column, which is not true. * Many (if not most)l custom themes style the portlet column and have no room for the manage portlets-link below the portlets. * all configuration options are in site or document actions, except for manage portlets- a needless inconsistency. Proposal Remove the manage portlets-link from the default portlet renderer template and replace it with a site action. Wichert. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
[Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions
I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of spare time I would appreciate it though :) I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to site actions. Motivation == Both portlet columns feature a "manage portlets" link at the bottom. This has several problems: * the location of the link and the fact that each column has its own manage portlet link leads users to believe that that link will go to a page to configure that specific column, which is not true. * Many (if not most)l custom themes style the portlet column and have no room for the manage portlets-link below the portlets. * all configuration options are in site or document actions, except for manage portlets- a needless inconsistency. Proposal Remove the manage portlets-link from the default portlet renderer template and replace it with a site action. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
