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 Reporter:  hannosch|Owner:  alecm 
 Type:  PLIP|   Status:  closed
 Priority:  n/a |Milestone:  4.0   
Component:  Infrastructure  |   Resolution:  fixed 
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Comment(by witsch):

 (In [30913]) fix mailhost migration — `portal_setup` gets passed to
 migration handler, not the portal object itself (refs #8814)

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  * status:  assigned => closed
  * resolution:  => fixed


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 This PLIP is now fully merged.

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [30548]) Merged r28664:29350 from plip8814-mailhost branch (refs
 #8814)

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [30547]) Merge r28921:30021 from plip8814-mailhost branch (refs #8814)

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Comment(by alecm):

 Oops, that should have been r28712:28918 for plone.app.contentrules

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [30546]) Merge r28921:30021 from plip8814-mailhost branch (refs #8814)

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Comment(by esteele):

 Please assist the doc team in creating/updating documentation relating to
 this PLIP. See #9600.

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Comment(by esteele):

 This PLIP has been accepted for merging into Plone 4.0

 The final vote was:

 Alec Mitchell   -
 David Glick 1
 Erik Rose   1
 Laurence Rowe   1
 Matthew Wilkes  -
 Ross Patterson  1

 Please merge your branches into the Plone 4.0 head by end-of-day Friday
 Oct 16. If you need assistance with merging, please contact me.

 We'll be assigning a documentation ticket to this PLIP shortly. Please
 assist the docs team in documenting the changes and new features that this
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Comment(by esteele):

 Your PLIP has been reviewed by the Framework team. Feel free to discuss
 any suggested changes either here in the PLIP ticket or on the mailing
 lists. Final deadline for this PLIP is set for September 30.

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [29745]) Update plip buildout and description to reflect changes
 merged into Zope 2.12 (refs #8814)

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Comment(by rossp):

 I updated Zope2 to r102819 but still couldn't get the load tests to run.
 See "Installing coreloadtests" in
 http://weblion.psu.edu/static/loadtesting/plone4.0/plip8814-replace-
 securemailhost.log.  I verified after the error that Zope2 was in fact at
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Comment(by alecm):

 I've fixed the TLS issue and added the toolset registry migration.
 Unfortunately, tests are failing now due to updates on Zope trunk.  I
 don't see a way to pin a repository to a particular version with
 mr.developer, but r102819 of Zope trunk works.  Hopefully, the changes can
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Comment(by alecm):

 OK, it seems the TLS semantics for SecureMailHost were different than I
 had surmised.  It's probably incorrect to assume that if "Disable TLS" is
 off, that "Force TLS" should be on.  I'll just ignore that flag in the
 migration and keep the "Force TLS" flag unset by default, since there
 seems to be no way to actually "Disable TLS" in MailHost.  Nobody really
 wants to disable TLS anyway I'd guess, and MailHost seems to do a good job
 of figuring out whether it can use it or not on its own.

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Comment(by davisagli):

 "Disable TLS" was off in the old MailHost (so TLS was on, I guess), and it
 was using localhost port 25.  I can send you the Data.fs; but it's really
 just a stock unmodified Plone 2.5 install.

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Comment(by alecm):

 David,

 Could you send some info about the original MailHost settings you
 migrated?  Was the original set to support SSL/TLS connections, what was
 the port?  The new mailer will use TLS automatically if the server
 supports it, so perhaps the migration should not bother to set the force
 TLS flag based on the original value.  TLS seems to be working here with
 gmail using port 25.

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 (In [29380]) Add toolset migration step for MailHost (refs #8814)

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 (In [29351]) add FWT review for PLIP 8814 (refs #8814)

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 (In [28976]) PLIP #8814 is ready for review (refs #8814)

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [28926]) Update PLIP #8814 buildout with new branches and document
 status. (refs #8814)

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 (In [28925]) Add migrations and migration tests for PLIP 8814 (refs #8814)

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 (In [28921]) Branch plone.app.upgrade for PLIP 8814 (refs #8814)

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 (In [28919]) Branch plone.app.upgrade for PLIP 8814 (refs #8814)

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 (In [28719]) Add PLIP 8814 buildout config and documentation (refs #8814)

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 (In [28718]) Add SMH BBB monkey patches (refs #8814)

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 (In [28712]) Branch for PLIP 8814 implementation, would do this on 2.0
 branch but MailHost is currently broken in numerous ways.  refs #8814

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [28690]) Begin PLIP #8814 implementation by merging r24622:24623 from
 trunk and removing secureSend references (refs #8814)

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Comment(by alecm):

 (In [28664]) Branch for PLIP #8814 SecureMailHost removal implementation
 (refs #8814)

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Comment(by davisagli):

 Hanno removal of SecureMailHost on trunk is in r24623, FWIW.

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 Approved by FWT vote.

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Comment(by alecm):

 I think the only method we'd have to deprecate is "secureSend".  I'll
 probably end up patching that into our new mailhost along with a
 deprecation warning.  The patched method could then be removed in a later
 release.  There are also some convenience regexps and similar in SMH that
 developers may be importing and relying on.  We may want to consider
 providing some BBB imports for those, since they can be quite convenient.

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[PLIP-Advisories] Re: [Plone] #8814: Replace SecureMailHost with a standard Zope mailhost

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#8814: Replace SecureMailHost with a standard Zope mailhost
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 Reporter:  hannosch|Owner:  alecm
 Type:  PLIP|   Status:  new  
 Priority:  n/a |Milestone:  4.0  
Component:  Infrastructure  |   Resolution:   
 Keywords:  |  
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Comment(by erikrose):

 Does SecureMailHost presently fire off DeprecationWarnings? If not, I
 think we should before ripping it out.

 FWT vote: -1 until some deprecation warnings are added in some (possibly
 3.x) release.

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