Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

2012-04-09 Thread ben . weinstein
San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a 
sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35.  Theyre not for 
sale but anyone can just go in there and use them.


-Original Message-
From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?


speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry 
animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to 
shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is 
definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with 
working stands for film.

thanks in advance,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
www.centerforvisualmusic.org

CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.dot

  
 

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[Frameworks] Avant garde DVDs

2012-04-09 Thread חן שינברג
Does anybody know where can I buy re-voir DVDs or any other avant-garde DVDs in 
NY ?
Thanks
Chen

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ב-Apr 9, 2012, בשעה 7:28, C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net כתב/ה:

 thanks, good to know...to clarify, we're not looking to buy a stand, but a 
 situation with a vendor where we can rent enough time/space  help to shoot 
 many cels
 
 Cindy Keefer
 CVM
 www.centerforvisualmusic.org
 CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com
 Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:05 PM
 To: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net, Experimental Film Discussion List 
 frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?
 
 San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a 
 sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35.  Theyre not 
 for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net
 Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?
 
 
 speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry 
 animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to 
 shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is 
 definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with 
 working stands for film.
 
 thanks in advance,
 Cindy Keefer
 Center for Visual Music
 www.centerforvisualmusic.org
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Avant garde DVDs

2012-04-09 Thread Pip Chodorov
Kim's Video carries some of our DVDs, and there 
may soon be a new venue in Williamsburg.
But the best way is still to order them on our blog, or on amazon.fr
Pip Chodorov, Re:Voir


At 9:45 +0100 9/04/12, ÁÔݘȕ·¯’ wrote:
Does anybody know where can I buy re-voir DVDs 
or any other avant-garde DVDs in NY ?
Thanks
Chen



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Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

2012-04-09 Thread ben . weinstein
yea just go in and you can probably use it as long as you want for free.  I 
know im gonna be usin it in the near future.


-Original Message-
From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:28 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

thanks, good to know...to clarify, we're not looking to buy a stand, but a 
situation with a vendor where we can rent enough time/space  help to shoot 
many cels

Cindy Keefer
CVM
www.centerforvisualmusic.org
CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:05 PM
To: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net, Experimental Film Discussion List 
frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a 
sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35.  Theyre not 
for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them.


-Original Message-
From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?


speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry 
animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to 
shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is 
definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with 
working stands for film.

thanks in advance,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
www.centerforvisualmusic.org
 

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Re: [Frameworks] Avant garde DVDs

2012-04-09 Thread Sasha Janerus
Millennium Film Workshop has VHSes, maybe also tapes, which we'll sell.
Call  ask.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com wrote:

 Kim's Video carries some of our DVDs, and there
 may soon be a new venue in Williamsburg.
 But the best way is still to order them on our blog, or on amazon.fr
 Pip Chodorov, Re:Voir


 At 9:45 +0100 9/04/12, ÁÔݘȕ·¯’ wrote:
 Does anybody know where can I buy re-voir DVDs
 or any other avant-garde DVDs in NY ?
 Thanks
 Chen
 
 

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Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

2012-04-09 Thread Scott Dorsey
I think Alpha Cine still has one.
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Perfectone motor

2012-04-09 Thread Scott Dorsey
 does anyone know if modern recorders accept tone? does the tone actually
 show up in your sound?

A good introduction to how pilot tone works can be found in A Primer For
Filmmaking by Roberts and Sharples.  The tone is recorded on a second
channel, separate from the audio.  In the case of the Nagra it's a little
center track, if you record with a Uher or something, it's the lower edge
track (as if it were a stereo tape).

If you send the 1/4 tape with pilot tone on it to the sound lab, we can 
play it on a recorder whose speed automatically adjusts to keep the tone
constant, and transfer it to a digital file or to sprocketed fullcoat.  The
file or fullcoat would lock frame-by-frame to the camera because any speed
variations in the camera or in the field recorder would be followed precisely
on playback.

You COULD record on a DAT machine or a digital recorder, using one stereo
channel for audio and one for pilot tone.  You would have to turn off any
digital compression.  However, if you did this, you'd probably still have
to dub it down to an analogue tape to get it resolved to picture.
--scott
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[Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg

2012-04-09 Thread Margaret Rorison
Hello!

Does anyone know of a lab in the U.S. who can do a dirty duplicate of hand
spliced color neg 16mm film?

thanks!
Meg

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Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg

2012-04-09 Thread Scott Dorsey
You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made?  Or you
have a negative and you want a print made?

Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is
no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get
a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the 
interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution.
--scott


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Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

2012-04-09 Thread ben . weinstein
Hey also just wondering, where is there a xerox machine where you can transfer 
paper drawings to cels?


-Original Message-
From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:28 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

thanks, good to know...to clarify, we're not looking to buy a stand, but a 
situation with a vendor where we can rent enough time/space  help to shoot 
many cels

Cindy Keefer
CVM
www.centerforvisualmusic.org
CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:05 PM
To: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net, Experimental Film Discussion List 
frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?

San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a 
sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35.  Theyre not 
for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them.


-Original Message-
From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?


speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry 
animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to 
shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is 
definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with 
working stands for film.

thanks in advance,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
www.centerforvisualmusic.org
 

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Re: [Frameworks] Tobin intervelometer power supply?

2012-04-09 Thread Caryn Cline
Nick, Ryder, Scott, Jean-Louis, and Robbie,

Thank you all for your suggestions and advice.  I wish I knew enough about
this world to make a lightweight battery myself, but maybe down the road.
Meanwhile, I'll follow your leads about where to buy something.

Best wishes,

CC

On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Ryder White ryder.wh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like everyone else is saying, any new 12v battery should do the trick. The
 pinout on those XLRs is Pin #1: (-), Pin #4: (+). The two other pins were
 used in some systems for sync pulses and so on but are generally not used
 anymore I think. I've made a couple of those connectors (and I'm a terrible
 solderer) so it should be easy enough to do yourself.

 RW


 On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:48 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

 You can buy small sealed lead-acid 12v batteries from electronics
 suppliers. They are about the size of two cigarette packets and weigh less
 than 500g. You only need the lowest spec battery as the Tobin motor draws
 very little current,

 Nicky.



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 Sent: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:15
 Subject: [Frameworks] Tobin intervelometer power supply?

  Hi Everyone,

 Our school has one Tobin Time Lapse Motor for a Bolex H-16.  The only
 power source we have is a big heavy battery belt (which we normally use to
 power our Arri cameras).  Is there a different/better/lighter power source
 that would work with the 4-pin xlr connector?

 Thank you for any help or advice.

 CC

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 Filmmaker and Teacher
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Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg

2012-04-09 Thread Jason Halprin
Try Movie Lab in Maryland. They've done it in the past. 


Some labs won't print anything that's been tape spliced due to concerns about 
breakage  hang-ups when it runs through the contact printer at high speeds. 
Just ask, any lab should be forthright about whether they'll make you a print.

-Jason Halprin




 From: Margaret Rorison margaret.b.rori...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
 

Hello!

Does anyone know of a lab in the U.S. who can do a dirty duplicate of hand 
spliced color neg 16mm film?

thanks!
Meg

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http://redroom.org/

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Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg

2012-04-09 Thread John Woods
Niagara Custom Lab in Toronto will print negs with tape splices.

You could try using Ektachrome 100D to duplicate your film on an optical 
printer.  Or you could use your workprint to compile an EDL and do a neg cut 
(either or yourself or hire a pro).




 From: Margaret Rorison margaret.b.rori...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 8:07:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
 

Scott, 

Thanks for getting back to me. If you or anyone else could clarify things, that 
would be wonderful!

I have a work print, which is an interpositive print of the color negative 
film.  The work print was edited by hand and spliced to create a final film. 
Now, I want to make a duplicate copy of this edited interpositive workprint 
because I will be projecting it for a week in a gallery 
and would like a back-up to play it safe. 

So, I think, by what you are saying (and by what ColorLab has told me) the only 
way to do this is quite expensive and requires me to pay for both an new 
internegative that will then make a new interpositive. 

Is this the only solution in 2012?

Thank you for your help, 

Sincerely, 
Meg

You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made?  Or you
have a negative and you want a print made?

Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is
no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get
a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the 
interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution.
--scott 

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