Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?
San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35. Theyre not for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them. -Original Message- From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with working stands for film. thanks in advance, Cindy Keefer Center for Visual Music www.centerforvisualmusic.org CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.dot ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Avant garde DVDs
Does anybody know where can I buy re-voir DVDs or any other avant-garde DVDs in NY ? Thanks Chen נשלח מה-iPhone שלי ב-Apr 9, 2012, בשעה 7:28, C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net כתב/ה: thanks, good to know...to clarify, we're not looking to buy a stand, but a situation with a vendor where we can rent enough time/space help to shoot many cels Cindy Keefer CVM www.centerforvisualmusic.org CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com -Original Message- From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:05 PM To: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net, Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35. Theyre not for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them. -Original Message- From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with working stands for film. thanks in advance, Cindy Keefer Center for Visual Music www.centerforvisualmusic.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Avant garde DVDs
Kim's Video carries some of our DVDs, and there may soon be a new venue in Williamsburg. But the best way is still to order them on our blog, or on amazon.fr Pip Chodorov, Re:Voir At 9:45 +0100 9/04/12, ÁÔÝÈ·¯ wrote: Does anybody know where can I buy re-voir DVDs or any other avant-garde DVDs in NY ? Thanks Chen ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?
yea just go in and you can probably use it as long as you want for free. I know im gonna be usin it in the near future. -Original Message- From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:28 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? thanks, good to know...to clarify, we're not looking to buy a stand, but a situation with a vendor where we can rent enough time/space help to shoot many cels Cindy Keefer CVM www.centerforvisualmusic.org CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com -Original Message- From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:05 PM To: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net, Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35. Theyre not for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them. -Original Message- From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with working stands for film. thanks in advance, Cindy Keefer Center for Visual Music www.centerforvisualmusic.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Avant garde DVDs
Millennium Film Workshop has VHSes, maybe also tapes, which we'll sell. Call ask. On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com wrote: Kim's Video carries some of our DVDs, and there may soon be a new venue in Williamsburg. But the best way is still to order them on our blog, or on amazon.fr Pip Chodorov, Re:Voir At 9:45 +0100 9/04/12, ÁÔݘȕ·¯’ wrote: Does anybody know where can I buy re-voir DVDs or any other avant-garde DVDs in NY ? Thanks Chen ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?
I think Alpha Cine still has one. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Perfectone motor
does anyone know if modern recorders accept tone? does the tone actually show up in your sound? A good introduction to how pilot tone works can be found in A Primer For Filmmaking by Roberts and Sharples. The tone is recorded on a second channel, separate from the audio. In the case of the Nagra it's a little center track, if you record with a Uher or something, it's the lower edge track (as if it were a stereo tape). If you send the 1/4 tape with pilot tone on it to the sound lab, we can play it on a recorder whose speed automatically adjusts to keep the tone constant, and transfer it to a digital file or to sprocketed fullcoat. The file or fullcoat would lock frame-by-frame to the camera because any speed variations in the camera or in the field recorder would be followed precisely on playback. You COULD record on a DAT machine or a digital recorder, using one stereo channel for audio and one for pilot tone. You would have to turn off any digital compression. However, if you did this, you'd probably still have to dub it down to an analogue tape to get it resolved to picture. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Hello! Does anyone know of a lab in the U.S. who can do a dirty duplicate of hand spliced color neg 16mm film? thanks! Meg -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made? Or you have a negative and you want a print made? Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand?
Hey also just wondering, where is there a xerox machine where you can transfer paper drawings to cels? -Original Message- From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:28 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? thanks, good to know...to clarify, we're not looking to buy a stand, but a situation with a vendor where we can rent enough time/space help to shoot many cels Cindy Keefer CVM www.centerforvisualmusic.org CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com -Original Message- From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com Sent: Apr 8, 2012 11:05 PM To: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net, Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? San Francisco State has a 16 and 35 oxberry animation stand and they have a sweet oxberry optical printer with 2 filmgates, also 16 and 35. Theyre not for sale but anyone can just go in there and use them. -Original Message- From: C Keefer kee...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 8, 2012 10:55 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] west coast oxberry animation stand? speaking of Oxberry stands - can anyone recommend a vendor with an Oxberry animation stand in the southern CA, SF Bay Area or west coast? We need to shoot many cels onto 35mm. In worst case we can do 16mm, but 35mm is definitely preferred. We understand there are no vendors anymore in LA with working stands for film. thanks in advance, Cindy Keefer Center for Visual Music www.centerforvisualmusic.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Tobin intervelometer power supply?
Nick, Ryder, Scott, Jean-Louis, and Robbie, Thank you all for your suggestions and advice. I wish I knew enough about this world to make a lightweight battery myself, but maybe down the road. Meanwhile, I'll follow your leads about where to buy something. Best wishes, CC On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Ryder White ryder.wh...@gmail.com wrote: Like everyone else is saying, any new 12v battery should do the trick. The pinout on those XLRs is Pin #1: (-), Pin #4: (+). The two other pins were used in some systems for sync pulses and so on but are generally not used anymore I think. I've made a couple of those connectors (and I'm a terrible solderer) so it should be easy enough to do yourself. RW On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:48 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: You can buy small sealed lead-acid 12v batteries from electronics suppliers. They are about the size of two cigarette packets and weigh less than 500g. You only need the lowest spec battery as the Tobin motor draws very little current, Nicky. -Original Message- From: Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:15 Subject: [Frameworks] Tobin intervelometer power supply? Hi Everyone, Our school has one Tobin Time Lapse Motor for a Bolex H-16. The only power source we have is a big heavy battery belt (which we normally use to power our Arri cameras). Is there a different/better/lighter power source that would work with the 4-pin xlr connector? Thank you for any help or advice. CC -- Caryn Cline Filmmaker and Teacher New York City and Seattle, WA vimeo.com/carynyc ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Caryn Cline Filmmaker and Teacher New York City and Seattle, WA vimeo.com/carynyc ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Try Movie Lab in Maryland. They've done it in the past. Some labs won't print anything that's been tape spliced due to concerns about breakage hang-ups when it runs through the contact printer at high speeds. Just ask, any lab should be forthright about whether they'll make you a print. -Jason Halprin From: Margaret Rorison margaret.b.rori...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 1:03 PM Subject: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg Hello! Does anyone know of a lab in the U.S. who can do a dirty duplicate of hand spliced color neg 16mm film? thanks! Meg -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Niagara Custom Lab in Toronto will print negs with tape splices. You could try using Ektachrome 100D to duplicate your film on an optical printer. Or you could use your workprint to compile an EDL and do a neg cut (either or yourself or hire a pro). From: Margaret Rorison margaret.b.rori...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 8:07:30 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg Scott, Thanks for getting back to me. If you or anyone else could clarify things, that would be wonderful! I have a work print, which is an interpositive print of the color negative film. The work print was edited by hand and spliced to create a final film. Now, I want to make a duplicate copy of this edited interpositive workprint because I will be projecting it for a week in a gallery and would like a back-up to play it safe. So, I think, by what you are saying (and by what ColorLab has told me) the only way to do this is quite expensive and requires me to pay for both an new internegative that will then make a new interpositive. Is this the only solution in 2012? Thank you for your help, Sincerely, Meg You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made? Or you have a negative and you want a print made? Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution. --scott -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks