Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[Peter Mudie]

Geez, Mike Snow's Back and Forth has nothing to do with 'dizziness' or 
'disorientation'. There is a room, four windows, a door and some people doing 
things – the camera position only moves once (just after the beginning). In 
terms of phenomena it is remarkably 'static'. Ask yourself, is Wavelength 
'about' 'horizontal vertigo'? Yikes.

If you're in Wien then check out Kurt's material with Günter Brus and Otto's 
films.

Peter



Michael Snow's Back and Forth would be the best example I can think of off the 
top of my head.


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We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings, on 
the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for thought and 
artistic practice.
Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?
Thank you!
Ruth + Leo

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Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[Beebe, Roger]

There are wonderful scenes of (LSD-induced) disorientation in Tony Gault's "Not 
Too Much Remember."  I just watched it again this week.  Really a wonderful 
found footage film that I hope will stay on people's radar screens.


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Anticipation of the Night, Stan Brakhage. Also his Desistfilm, and probably 
several others...

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Re: [Frameworks] hello! Swiss contacts

[Laura Rathschau Nielsen]

Thank you so much for the fast reply! 
Great tip!! It is definitely something I would try out! 

Regards
L 


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Hi laura,

I don't know if this is an easier option for you but what I have done for many 
a workshop is taken junk 16mm footage and bleached it with standard chlorox or 
similar. We've done thousands of feet at a time in our bathtub. Just fill the 
tub with water, pour a cup or two of bleach in, and let tge film soak until the 
emulsion comes off. Stir if necessary. Ensure adequate ventilation and or wear 
a respirator!

Hope this helps,

RW

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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] hello! Swiss contacts

Hello everyone! 
Im looking for a place to buy 16 mm clear leader ! I live in Denmark so its 
probably best to go for a place in Europe! In not gonna process the film... Im 
gonna work with it as Direct Animation! 
Really hope some of you can help me, cause I need it as soon as possible for a 
workshop! 
Kind Regards Laura

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello everyone, 
> 
> I hope all is well. I am just reaching out to see if anyone has contacts of 
> people in Switzerland. Presently, I am living in Swiss Romand the french 
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> living out here in Switzerland I would be happy to get in touch with them!  
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> Thank you, 
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Re: [Frameworks] hello! Swiss contacts

[ryder . white]

Hi laura,

I don't know if this is an easier option for you but what I have done for many 
a workshop is taken junk 16mm footage and bleached it with standard chlorox or 
similar. We've done thousands of feet at a time in our bathtub. Just fill the 
tub with water, pour a cup or two of bleach in, and let tge film soak until the 
emulsion comes off. Stir if necessary. Ensure adequate ventilation and or wear 
a respirator!

Hope this helps,

RW

Sent from mobile - please excuse typographical errors.

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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] hello! Swiss contacts

Hello everyone! 
Im looking for a place to buy 16 mm clear leader ! I live in Denmark so its 
probably best to go for a place in Europe! In not gonna process the film... Im 
gonna work with it as Direct Animation! 
Really hope some of you can help me, cause I need it as soon as possible for a 
workshop! 
Kind Regards Laura

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/04/2013, at 18.33, etehram  wrote:

> Hello everyone, 
> 
> I hope all is well. I am just reaching out to see if anyone has contacts of 
> people in Switzerland. Presently, I am living in Swiss Romand the french 
> speaking part- in Lausanne. If there are any people involved in the community 
> living out here in Switzerland I would be happy to get in touch with them!  
> 
> Thank you, 
> Jennifer 
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Re: [Frameworks] hello! Swiss contacts

[Laura]

Hello everyone! 
Im looking for a place to buy 16 mm clear leader ! I live in Denmark so its 
probably best to go for a place in Europe! In not gonna process the film... Im 
gonna work with it as Direct Animation! 
Really hope some of you can help me, cause I need it as soon as possible for a 
workshop! 
Kind Regards Laura

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/04/2013, at 18.33, etehram  wrote:

> Hello everyone, 
> 
> I hope all is well. I am just reaching out to see if anyone has contacts of 
> people in Switzerland. Presently, I am living in Swiss Romand the french 
> speaking part- in Lausanne. If there are any people involved in the community 
> living out here in Switzerland I would be happy to get in touch with them!  
> 
> Thank you, 
> Jennifer 
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Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[David Tetzlaff]

Anticipation of the Night, Stan Brakhage. Also his Desistfilm, and probably 
several others...

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[Frameworks] Looking for 16mm projector / Direct Current

[vassily bourikas]

Dear All, 

Does anyone one out there (Europe would be easier) have one 300 series 
projector by Bell and Howell? Following Scott Dorsey's helpful reply/advice 
(below) I found that models include the Filmosound 302 and the Filmosound 
Specialist 384,385, 398 and 399. 
If you have one of these that works or could work and want to sell it please 
contact me off list.

Or if you have another model that runs on DIRECT CURRENT (DC). It concerns a 
16mm projector, not super 8. 

To avoid misunderstandings, I repeat: I am already using an inverter, in order 
to change the already existing Alternate Current to DC. I must use a projector 
that runs on DC for critical safety reasons. 

Thanks
VB





 



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To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com; vassilybouri...@yahoo.co.uk 
Sent: Monday, 1 April 2013, 16:32
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Advice please: 16mm projector on Direct Current
 
Some of the 300-series Bell and Howell projectors are designed for AC/DC
use.  Also some of the Ampro projectors were.  You can tell because they
employ universal motors with electromechanical governor arrangements instead
of modern AC synchronous motors. 

Note that SOME of the 300-series projectors used power transformers for the
tube electronics, but most of them were hot chassis and just ran directly
off the power line.

This was a big deal in the 1940s when these were made, since a lot of these
were used by the military in places that may have had DC or 50 Hz mains.
However, since we live in an era where cheap inverters are available, there
is really no reason not to just use one today and make solid AC from your 
DC line.
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[Frameworks] hello! Swiss contacts

[etehram]

Hello everyone,

I hope all is well. I am just reaching out to see if anyone has contacts of
people in Switzerland. Presently, I am living in Swiss Romand the french
speaking part- in Lausanne. If there are any people involved in the
community living out here in Switzerland I would be happy to get in touch
with them!

Thank you,
Jennifer
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Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza]

Vertov's Enthusiasm has a great sequence of drunks/religious people montaged to 
be saved by comunism!


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:22:39 -0700
From: pamari...@yahoo.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

Gamelan, by Claudio Caldini.
http://lightcone.org/en/film-5384-gamelan
http://antennaecollection.com/Experimental.html
(Also have his contact info, if interested in showing the original Super 8 
print.)
Best wishes,pablo.


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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Monday, April 1, 2013, 10:52 AM


Yes, that's a doozy. Flicker by Tony Conrad would also be on the list.





Anthology just showed Back and Forth a week or two ago. Did anybody last?













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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation













Michael Snow's Back and Forth would be the best example I can think of off the 
top of my head. 








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Dear frameworkers,

We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings, on 
the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for thought and 
artistic practice.


Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?

Thank you!

Ruth + Leo











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Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[Pablo Marin]

Gamelan, by Claudio Caldini.
http://lightcone.org/en/film-5384-gamelan
http://antennaecollection.com/Experimental.html
(Also have his contact info, if interested in showing the original Super 8 
print.)
Best wishes,pablo.


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From: carli...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Monday, April 1, 2013, 10:52 AM


Yes, that's a doozy. Flicker by Tony Conrad would also be on the list.





Anthology just showed Back and Forth a week or two ago. Did anybody last?













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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation













Michael Snow's Back and Forth would be the best example I can think of off the 
top of my head. 








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Dear frameworkers,

We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings, on 
the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for thought and 
artistic practice.


Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?

Thank you!

Ruth + Leo











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Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[carlileb]

Yes, that's a doozy. Flicker by Tony Conrad would also be on the list.


Anthology just showed Back and Forth a week or two ago. Did anybody last?







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Michael Snow's Back and Forth would be the best example I can think of off the 
top of my head. 




On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Anderwald + Grond  
wrote:

Dear frameworkers,
We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings, on 
the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for thought and 
artistic practice.
Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?
Thank you!
Ruth + Leo



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Re: [Frameworks] Advice please: 16mm projector on Direct Current

[Scott Dorsey]

Some of the 300-series Bell and Howell projectors are designed for AC/DC
use.  Also some of the Ampro projectors were.  You can tell because they
employ universal motors with electromechanical governor arrangements instead
of modern AC synchronous motors. 

Note that SOME of the 300-series projectors used power transformers for the
tube electronics, but most of them were hot chassis and just ran directly
off the power line.

This was a big deal in the 1940s when these were made, since a lot of these
were used by the military in places that may have had DC or 50 Hz mains.
However, since we live in an era where cheap inverters are available, there
is really no reason not to just use one today and make solid AC from your 
DC line.
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Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[Patrick Brennan]

Michael Snow's Back and Forth would be the best example I can think of off
the top of my head.


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Anderwald + Grond <
cont...@anderwald-grond.at> wrote:

> Dear frameworkers,
> We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings,
> on the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for
> thought and artistic practice.
> Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?
> Thank you!
> Ruth + Leo
>
> -
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>
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> Schüttelstr. 21/14
> 1020 Vienna
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[Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[Anderwald + Grond]

Dear frameworkers,
We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings, on 
the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for thought and 
artistic practice.
Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?
Thank you!
Ruth + Leo

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[Frameworks] Advice please: 16mm projector on Direct Current

[vassily bourikas]

Hello, 

Has any of you had experience with running a projector on direct current? 
Even if you heard of anyone who modified a projector to run on dirct current 
(from battery, solar or wind cells, dynamos or any type of electric machine) 
please let me know. I will use a regular (internal combustion) engine generator 
that produces alternate (AC) but I must use an inverter to change it to DC for 
certain safety reasons. And I am not sure if a 16mm projector can run on Direct 
Current. 

If it is possible and any of you by any chance have such a modified projector 
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