Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to europe?
i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as Francisco points out. Marco On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres wrote: > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL I have heard > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to > misplaced negative. > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol wrote: >> >> hey folks >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of x-rays & >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any advice? >> thanks! Moira >> >> moiratierney.net >> vimeo.com/moiratierney >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- "A brave flat world." marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d - 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to europe?
Moira, I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging you to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from one place to another. That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day of the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple carriers, faster, but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of handling or reliable delivery. Just insure it for the max. I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect your exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say that's your bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere over there. Good luck, Isaac On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni wrote: > i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against > all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know > it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the > people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote > airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as > Francisco points out. > Marco > > On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres > > > wrote: > > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL I have heard > > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to > > misplaced negative. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol > > > > wrote: > >> > >> hey folks > >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of x-rays > & > >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any > advice? > >> thanks! Moira > >> > >> moiratierney.net > >> vimeo.com/moiratierney > >> > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > -- > > "A brave flat world." > > > marco poloni > usedomer strasse 8 > d - 13355 berlin > gsm de +49.163.6294080 > gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > skype marcopoloni > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to europe?
Hi Isaac, When you use FedEx do you( is it necessary to) mention unexposed film and do you request special handling? On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Isaac Brooks wrote: > Moira, > > I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times > through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I > have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both > Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging you > to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from one > place to another. > > That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport security > a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, or, I am > willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service used, I'd > actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day of the week. > Better tracking, better handling, less multiple carriers, faster, but > certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of handling or reliable > delivery. Just insure it for the max. > > I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's > traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to > show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect your > exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say that's your > bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere over there. Good > luck, > > Isaac > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni wrote: > i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against > all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know > it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the > people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote > airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as > Francisco points out. > Marco > > On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres wrote: > > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL I have heard > > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to > > misplaced negative. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol wrote: > >> > >> hey folks > >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of x-rays & > >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any > >> advice? > >> thanks! Moira > >> > >> moiratierney.net > >> vimeo.com/moiratierney > >> > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > -- > > "A brave flat world." > > > marco poloni > usedomer strasse 8 > d - 13355 berlin > gsm de +49.163.6294080 > gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > skype marcopoloni > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Roshanak Elmendorf roshana...@optonline.net roshanakelmendorf.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to europe?
No, I've never mentioned it. I have always been afraid of the package being held up due to its uniqueness. Probably a risky idea. I'll say again, that precautions are justifiable, and that Marco's previous comment about the overseas scanning is correct when it comes to the mail. I've often just taken film with me as carry on, as those machines subject the film to less. But motion picture film is supposedly more prone to harm, and if you are going through more than one security checkpoint, you may want to ask them to hand inspect it. On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Roshanak Elmendorf wrote: > Hi Isaac, > When you use FedEx do you( is it necessary to) mention unexposed film and > do you request special handling? > > On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Isaac Brooks > > > wrote: > > Moira, > > I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times > through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I > have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both > Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging > you to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from > one place to another. > > That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport > security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, > or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service > used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day > of the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple > carriers, faster, but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of > handling or reliable delivery. Just insure it for the max. > > I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's > traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to > show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect > your exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say > that's your bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere > over there. Good luck, > > Isaac > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni > > > wrote: > >> i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against >> all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know >> it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the >> people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote >> airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as >> Francisco points out. >> Marco >> >> On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres wrote: >> > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL I have heard >> > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to >> > misplaced negative. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol wrote: >> >> >> >> hey folks >> >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of >> x-rays & >> >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any >> advice? >> >> thanks! Moira >> >> >> >> moiratierney.net >> >> vimeo.com/moiratierney >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "A brave flat world." >> >> >> marco poloni >> usedomer strasse 8 >> d - 13355 berlin >> gsm de +49.163.6294080 >> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 >> skype marcopoloni >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > Roshanak Elmendorf > roshana...@optonline.net > roshanakelmendorf.com > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to europe?
Isaac is right about motion picture film. You might end up in a hand inspection siuation for the very simple reason that a motion picture film can, contrarily to a still photography roll, contain a knife (16mm) or a gun (35mm). So make sure your film is packaged in its original light-tight plastic inside the can in case an operator asks to open the can. M On 1 February 2014 17:28, Isaac Brooks wrote: > No, I've never mentioned it. I have always been afraid of the package being > held up due to its uniqueness. Probably a risky idea. > > I'll say again, that precautions are justifiable, and that Marco's previous > comment about the overseas scanning is correct when it comes to the mail. > I've often just taken film with me as carry on, as those machines subject > the film to less. But motion picture film is supposedly more prone to harm, > and if you are going through more than one security checkpoint, you may want > to ask them to hand inspect it. > > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Roshanak Elmendorf > wrote: >> >> Hi Isaac, >> When you use FedEx do you( is it necessary to) mention unexposed film and >> do you request special handling? >> >> On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Isaac Brooks wrote: >> >> Moira, >> >> I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times >> through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I >> have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both >> Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging you >> to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from one >> place to another. >> >> That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport >> security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, >> or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service >> used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day of >> the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple carriers, faster, >> but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of handling or reliable >> delivery. Just insure it for the max. >> >> I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's >> traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to >> show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect your >> exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say that's your >> bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere over there. >> Good luck, >> >> Isaac >> >> On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni wrote: >>> >>> i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against >>> all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know >>> it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the >>> people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote >>> airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as >>> Francisco points out. >>> Marco >>> >>> On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres wrote: >>> > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL I have heard >>> > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to >>> > misplaced negative. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol wrote: >>> >> >>> >> hey folks >>> >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of >>> >> x-rays & >>> >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any >>> >> advice? >>> >> thanks! Moira >>> >> >>> >> moiratierney.net >>> >> vimeo.com/moiratierney >>> >> >>> >> ___ >>> >> FrameWorks mailing list >>> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > FrameWorks mailing list >>> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> "A brave flat world." >>> >>> >>> marco poloni >>> usedomer strasse 8 >>> d - 13355 berlin >>> gsm de +49.163.6294080 >>> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 >>> skype marcopoloni >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> Roshanak Elmendorf >> roshana...@optonline.net >> roshanakelmendorf.com >> > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- "A brave flat world." marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d - 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni _
