Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread David Tetzlaff 
Living In Oblivion: the makers don't play themselves, but at least some of
the characters are based on the makers.

One P. M. (Leacock, Pennebaker, Godard)

Then there's the whole genre of documentaries beginning with a set-up of
the makers stating an (ostensible) intent to make a certain kind of film,
after which we see them failing at that and coming up with something else
in the process: Nick Broomfield's "Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial
Killer" and "Kurt and Courtney"; Greggorio Rocha's "Lost Reels of Pancho
Villa", "Waiting for Fidel" (the grandaddy of the form), and, of course,
"Roger and Me."

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Suyash Barve  wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made
> on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
> prodcution. the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are
> playing themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they
> are putting together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a
> location recce being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film
> in itself. the film that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the
> world of the criss-crossing destinies, interesting back-stories and
> character detail of the film-makers who are playing themselves on and off
> camera and who have been brought together because of the film. the lines
> between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak and the director is
> exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters and situations.
> some of the titles we have in mind are :
>
> through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami
>
> salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf
>
> contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome, the
> film within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference
> titles we are trying to source)
>
> mary - abel ferrera
>
> a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom
>
> thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking
> forward to getting some responses!
>
> S
>
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Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread nicky . hamlyn 
Truffaut: Day for Night.

Some of Jon Jost's early work?

Fellini: Eight and a Half.

Michael Snow: Two Sides to Every Story.

Nicky.

 

 

 

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Living In Oblivion: the makers don't play themselves, but at least some of the 
characters are based on the makers. 


One P. M. (Leacock, Pennebaker, Godard)


Then there's the whole genre of documentaries beginning with a set-up of the 
makers stating an (ostensible) intent to make a certain kind of film, after 
which we see them failing at that and coming up with something else in the 
process: Nick Broomfield's "Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial Killer" and 
"Kurt and Courtney"; Greggorio Rocha's "Lost Reels of Pancho Villa", "Waiting 
for Fidel" (the grandaddy of the form), and, of course, "Roger and Me."



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Suyash Barve  wrote:

hello all,


i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on 
unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. 
the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are playing 
themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they are putting 
together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a location recce 
being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film in itself. the film 
that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the world of the criss-crossing 
destinies, interesting back-stories and character detail of the film-makers who 
are playing themselves on and off camera and who have been brought together 
because of the film. the lines between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak 
and the director is exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters 
and situations. some of the titles we have in mind are : 


through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami


salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf


contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome, the film 
within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference titles we 
are trying to source)


mary - abel ferrera


a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom


thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking forward 
to getting some responses!


S





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Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread Gawthrop, Rob 
Shirley Clarke's The Connection

Rob

From: Suyash Barve mailto:suyashba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:11:53 +0530
To: mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
Subject: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

hello all,

i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on 
unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. 
the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are playing 
themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they are putting 
together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a location recce 
being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film in itself. the film 
that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the world of the criss-crossing 
destinies, interesting back-stories and character detail of the film-makers who 
are playing themselves on and off camera and who have been brought together 
because of the film. the lines between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak 
and the director is exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters 
and situations. some of the titles we have in mind are :

through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami

salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf

contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome, the film 
within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference titles we 
are trying to source)

mary - abel ferrera

a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom

thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking forward 
to getting some responses!

S




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Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread Christine Lucy Latimer 
*Arrebato (Rapture)* - Iván Zulueta

*Beware of a Holy Whore* - RW Fassbinder

*David Holzman's Diary *- Jim McBride

*I, an Actress* - George Kuchar

-C.


> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Gawthrop, Rob" 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:55:47 +
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>
> Shirley Clarke's The Connection
>
>  Rob
>
>   From: Suyash Barve 
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:11:53 +0530
> To: 
> Subject: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>
>  hello all,
>
>  i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films
> made on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
> prodcution. the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are
> playing themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they
> are putting together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a
> location recce being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film
> in itself. the film that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the
> world of the criss-crossing destinies, interesting back-stories and
> character detail of the film-makers who are playing themselves on and off
> camera and who have been brought together because of the film. the lines
> between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak and the director is
> exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters and situations.
> some of the titles we have in mind are :
>
>  through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami
>
>  salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf
>
>  contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome,
> the film within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference
> titles we are trying to source)
>
>  mary - abel ferrera
>
>  a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom
>
>  thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking
> forward to getting some responses!
>
>  S
>
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Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread Tim Halloran 
Symbiopsychotaxiplasm, William Greaves

Tim

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 8, 2014, at 11:43 PM, "Suyash Barve"  wrote:
> 
> hello all,
> 
> i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on 
> unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. 
> the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are playing 
> themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they are 
> putting together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a location 
> recce being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film in itself. 
> the film that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the world of the 
> criss-crossing destinies, interesting back-stories and character detail of 
> the film-makers who are playing themselves on and off camera and who have 
> been brought together because of the film. the lines between docu and fiction 
> are blurred so to speak and the director is exploring the on and off camera 
> dynamics between characters and situations. some of the titles we have in 
> mind are : 
> 
> through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami
> 
> salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf
> 
> contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome, the 
> film within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference 
> titles we are trying to source)
> 
> mary - abel ferrera
> 
> a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom
> 
> thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking 
> forward to getting some responses!
> 
> S
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Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread Mike Kartje 
Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One (1968) by William Greaves might be of
interest.

Best,

Mike

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Christine Lucy Latimer <
christinelucylati...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Arrebato (Rapture)* - Iván Zulueta
>
> *Beware of a Holy Whore* - RW Fassbinder
>
> *David Holzman's Diary *- Jim McBride
>
> *I, an Actress* - George Kuchar
>
> -C.
>
>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: "Gawthrop, Rob" 
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:55:47 +
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>>
>> Shirley Clarke's The Connection
>>
>>  Rob
>>
>>   From: Suyash Barve 
>> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:11:53 +0530
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>>
>>  hello all,
>>
>>  i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films
>> made on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
>> prodcution. the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are
>> playing themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they
>> are putting together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a
>> location recce being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film
>> in itself. the film that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the
>> world of the criss-crossing destinies, interesting back-stories and
>> character detail of the film-makers who are playing themselves on and off
>> camera and who have been brought together because of the film. the lines
>> between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak and the director is
>> exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters and situations.
>> some of the titles we have in mind are :
>>
>>  through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami
>>
>>  salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf
>>
>>  contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome,
>> the film within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference
>> titles we are trying to source)
>>
>>  mary - abel ferrera
>>
>>  a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom
>>
>>  thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking
>> forward to getting some responses!
>>
>>  S
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-10-09 Thread Buck Bito - Movette 
Hi Suyash,

Joel DeMott (and 'our own' Jeff Kreines):  "Demon Lover Diary" (1980)

---Buck Bito

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San Francisco, CA 94110
(Valencia at 25th St.)
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Open Tuesday - Saturday
Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
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On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:41 pm, Suyash Barve wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made
> on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
> prodcution. ...
>
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> forward to getting some responses!
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[Frameworks] some people may not want to watch

2014-10-09 Thread jaime cleeland 
ANTI FILM A Shit Film 1st Installment : Beast Engineer : Free Download & 
Streaming : Internet Archive
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extracts from HEAVEN HATES what HEAVEN HATES by James CleelandEd End tells it 
how it is !Various ArtistsTHIS IS THE FIRST INSTALL... |
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[Frameworks] FUJIfilm for sale

2014-10-09 Thread Jared Hutchinson 
Hello, all,
Here's my eBay listing for some last run 500 tungsten FujiFilm I'm selling.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FUJI-16mm-500T-Color-Negative-LAST-RUN-of-FujiFilm-ETERNA-Vivid500-/141433882692

Thanks!
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[Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps

2014-10-09 Thread Shane Eason 
H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e...

I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps 
(individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 
(Orbis OS),
Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I 
know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may 
have one 
in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, 
live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. 

I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, 
aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, 
et cetera... 

Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, 
Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv
Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda 
July

Muy apreciado,

-Shane
__
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Asst. Prof. of Exp. & Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE 
Director 
School of Communication & Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University
Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com

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[Frameworks] Films appropriating/including "I'm An Indian Too" number from Annie Get Your Gun

2014-10-09 Thread Talena Sanders 
hi there,

Does any one know any films - experimental and/or documentary - that
utilize the "I'm An Indian Too" number from Annie Get Your Gun?  I'm trying
to research how others have utilized that number - any
performance/production/lead actress, visuals, audio, as found footage, or
for illustration/archival material in a documentary.

Thanks for your help!
Talena

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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps

2014-10-09 Thread nicky . hamlyn 
There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect.

Nicky.

 

 

 

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From: Shane Eason 
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22
Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps


H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e...


I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps 
(individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 
(Orbis OS),
Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I 
know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may 
have one 
in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, 
live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. 


I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, 
aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, 
et cetera... 


Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, 
Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv
Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda 
July


Muy apreciado,


-Shane
__
Shane Christian Eason, MFA  
Asst. Prof. of Exp. & Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE 
Director 
School of Communication & Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University
Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com


 
 
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