Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Kathleen Quillian
Yes, Helen Hill's compilation Recipes for Disaster includes a whole lot of  
great information about handmade collage and filmmaking that might be useful 
for your project.


On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Warren Cockerham  wrote:

> This stuff works pretty well. 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001A3Q1XQ/ref=pd_aw_sims_10?pi=SL500_SS115&simLd=1
> 
> And a copy of this
> 
> http://www.angoleiro.com/cine_texts/recipes_for_disaster_hill.pdf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Christopher - but I am literally talking about collage.. in very very 
>> small pieces...
>> Best, Lena
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, christopher nigel 
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lena ,
>>> it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start with tape slicing , 
>>> as if you make a mistake can always redo ?
>>> if you find some old books on filmmaking , there will cover this ? 
>>> 
>>> I like this way of making films only done it with my super 8 film's ,  
>>> 
>>> Christopher 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen  
>>> wrote:
 Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm 
 film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some 
 questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
 
 Looking forward to hear from you!
 Best, Lena
 
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread christopher nigel
Lena , All films are a kind of Collage ? what is it that you want to do ?
also is the film going to run in a film Projector or on to video ? or on a
lightbox ? as stills .

If you can give more details of what it is that you would like to do ?  but
by saying film collage is not much help ?

Christopher ,

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Myron Ort  wrote:
>
> My lazy thinking:  use paper punch for the hole and then substitute insert
> from another source. "film marquetry" so to speak, thus no build up of
> layers.
> (yes, I am aware this has been done, but maybe the technique could be
> taken to a whole new level, maybe I will try it myself)
>
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
> Actual collage. h. I don't know much about that, but I would assume in
> some general sense it relates back to Mothlight by Brakhage who held
> elements in place sandwiched between perforated mylar strips.
>
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
> Hi Lena,
> I assume, by collage, you mean editing (montage). Depending on what source
> materials you want to use, found footage etc. you sometimes need to be
> mindful of the emulsion position (A-wind or B-wind), single and/or double
> perforation. Tape splicing does make things much easier for combining
> different formats to start with.  Cement splicing can involve a whole
> variety of special little techniques when combining diverse footage
> sources. Some film stocks and/or leader cannot be cement spliced if not
> acetate based. Another issue is making the splice less visible (or even
> invisible)  in the final result, if that is a concern.
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen wrote:
>
> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm
> film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some
> questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>
> Looking forward to hear from you!
> Best, Lena
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Myron Ort
My lazy thinking:  use paper punch for the hole and then substitute insert from 
another source. "film marquetry" so to speak, thus no build up of layers. 
(yes, I am aware this has been done, but maybe the technique could be taken to 
a whole new level, maybe I will try it myself)

On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Myron Ort wrote:

> Actual collage. h. I don't know much about that, but I would assume in 
> some general sense it relates back to Mothlight by Brakhage who held elements 
> in place sandwiched between perforated mylar strips.
> 
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lena,
>> I assume, by collage, you mean editing (montage). Depending on what source 
>> materials you want to use, found footage etc. you sometimes need to be 
>> mindful of the emulsion position (A-wind or B-wind), single and/or double 
>> perforation. Tape splicing does make things much easier for combining 
>> different formats to start with.  Cement splicing can involve a whole 
>> variety of special little techniques when combining diverse footage sources. 
>> Some film stocks and/or leader cannot be cement spliced if not acetate 
>> based. Another issue is making the splice less visible (or even invisible)  
>> in the final result, if that is a concern. 
>> 
>> Myron Ort
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm 
>>> film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some 
>>> questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to hear from you!
>>> Best, Lena
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Myron Ort
Actual collage. h. I don't know much about that, but I would assume in some 
general sense it relates back to Mothlight by Brakhage who held elements in 
place sandwiched between perforated mylar strips.

On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Myron Ort wrote:

> Hi Lena,
> I assume, by collage, you mean editing (montage). Depending on what source 
> materials you want to use, found footage etc. you sometimes need to be 
> mindful of the emulsion position (A-wind or B-wind), single and/or double 
> perforation. Tape splicing does make things much easier for combining 
> different formats to start with.  Cement splicing can involve a whole variety 
> of special little techniques when combining diverse footage sources. Some 
> film stocks and/or leader cannot be cement spliced if not acetate based. 
> Another issue is making the splice less visible (or even invisible)  in the 
> final result, if that is a concern. 
> 
> Myron Ort
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen wrote:
> 
>> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm film 
>> and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some questions 
>> regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>> 
>> Looking forward to hear from you!
>> Best, Lena
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Myron Ort
Hi Lena,
I assume, by collage, you mean editing (montage). Depending on what source 
materials you want to use, found footage etc. you sometimes need to be mindful 
of the emulsion position (A-wind or B-wind), single and/or double perforation. 
Tape splicing does make things much easier for combining different formats to 
start with.  Cement splicing can involve a whole variety of special little 
techniques when combining diverse footage sources. Some film stocks and/or 
leader cannot be cement spliced if not acetate based. Another issue is making 
the splice less visible (or even invisible)  in the final result, if that is a 
concern. 

Myron Ort


On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm film 
> and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some questions 
> regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
> 
> Looking forward to hear from you!
> Best, Lena
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Contents of FrameWorks digest...Vol 55, Issue 16

2014-12-12 Thread Sasha Waters Freyer
Lena, re: 16mm collage with small pieces, check with Lauren Cook - she's at
U. Hartford.

Sasha

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM, 
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>3. Re: Analouge collage with 16mm (Warren Cockerham)
>4. Re: Analouge collage with 16mm (Francisco Torres)
>5. My Last Words (Roger D. Wilson)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Christina Kolozsvary 
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> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:03:36 -0500
> Subject: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
> I know George Kuchar was mentioned already, but another film of his that
> applies is Hold Me While I'm Naked.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Adam Sekuler 
> wrote:
>
>> Raya Martin and Mark Peranson's  La última película
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:11 AM, christopher nigel <
>> christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The last movie  By Dennis Hopper , Hopper was in many ways! way head !
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
>>
>>>  More documentaries about:
>>>
>>> Jodorowsky’s Dune (2014)
>>> http://jodorowskysdune.com/
>>>
>>> Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno (2009):
>>> http://www.flickeralley.com/catalog/item/inferno/hardgood
>>>
>>> On 12/6/14 3:10 AM, "Freya"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In the realm of unfinished films I'm surprised nobody mentioned *Lost
>>> in La Mancha *(2002)
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:54 PM, Gene Youngblood 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> in the unfinished films category has anyone mentioned Wim wenders' The
>>> State
>>> of Things?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Amanda Christie
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:39 AM
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>>>
>>> my film Off Route 2 begins with myself hanging upside down in a car, but
>>> then the camera pulls back and reveals the film crew as i get out of the
>>> car
>>> and switch from the roll of victim to the roll of the director. I
>>> explain
>>> the next shot to the assistant director, then call cut, but the next
>>> shot
>>> that was discussed on camera is never actually filmed or shown on screen.
>>>
>>> http://www.amandadawnchristie.ca/off-route-2/
>>>
>>> the password to view any of the preview videos on my website is:
>>> previewonly
>>>
>>>
>>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>>> 
>>> 506-871-2062
>>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-10-09, at 12:40 PM, Buck Bito - Movette wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Suyash,
>>> >
>>> > Joel DeMott (and 'our own' Jeff Kreines):  "Demon Lover Diary" (1980)
>>> >
>>> > ---Buck Bito
>>> >
>>> > Lawrence "Buck" Bito
>>> > Movette Film Transfer
>>> > 1407 Valencia St.
>>> > San Francisco, CA 94110
>>> > (Valencia at 25th St.)
>>> > 415-558-8815
>>> > Open Tuesday - Saturday
>>> > Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
>>> > www.movettefilm.com
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:41 pm, Suyash Barve wrote:
>>> >> hello all,
>>> >>
>>> >> i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films
>>> >> made
>>> >> on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
>>> >> prodcution. ...
>>> >>
>>> >> thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice.
>>> looking
>>> >> forward to getting some responses!
>>> >>
>>> >> S
>>>
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> From: Lena Ditte Nissen 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:35:21 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm
> Thanks Christopher - but I am literally talking about collage.. in very
> very small pieces...
> Best, Lena
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, christopher nigel <
> christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Lena ,
>> it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start wi

Re: [Frameworks] Contents of FrameWorks digest...Vol 55, Issue 16

2014-12-12 Thread Sasha Waters Freyer
Lena, re: 16mm collage with small pieces, check with Lauren Cook - she's at
U. Hartford.

Sasha

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM, 
wrote:

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>1.  films on film-making/unfinished films (Christina Kolozsvary)
>2. Re: Analouge collage with 16mm (Lena Ditte Nissen)
>3. Re: Analouge collage with 16mm (Warren Cockerham)
>4. Re: Analouge collage with 16mm (Francisco Torres)
>5. My Last Words (Roger D. Wilson)
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Christina Kolozsvary 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:03:36 -0500
> Subject: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
> I know George Kuchar was mentioned already, but another film of his that
> applies is Hold Me While I'm Naked.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Adam Sekuler 
> wrote:
>
>> Raya Martin and Mark Peranson's  La última película
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:11 AM, christopher nigel <
>> christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The last movie  By Dennis Hopper , Hopper was in many ways! way head !
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
>>
>>>  More documentaries about:
>>>
>>> Jodorowsky’s Dune (2014)
>>> http://jodorowskysdune.com/
>>>
>>> Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno (2009):
>>> http://www.flickeralley.com/catalog/item/inferno/hardgood
>>>
>>> On 12/6/14 3:10 AM, "Freya"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In the realm of unfinished films I'm surprised nobody mentioned *Lost
>>> in La Mancha *(2002)
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:54 PM, Gene Youngblood 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> in the unfinished films category has anyone mentioned Wim wenders' The
>>> State
>>> of Things?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Amanda Christie
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:39 AM
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>>>
>>> my film Off Route 2 begins with myself hanging upside down in a car, but
>>> then the camera pulls back and reveals the film crew as i get out of the
>>> car
>>> and switch from the roll of victim to the roll of the director. I
>>> explain
>>> the next shot to the assistant director, then call cut, but the next
>>> shot
>>> that was discussed on camera is never actually filmed or shown on screen.
>>>
>>> http://www.amandadawnchristie.ca/off-route-2/
>>>
>>> the password to view any of the preview videos on my website is:
>>> previewonly
>>>
>>>
>>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>>> 
>>> 506-871-2062
>>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-10-09, at 12:40 PM, Buck Bito - Movette wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Suyash,
>>> >
>>> > Joel DeMott (and 'our own' Jeff Kreines):  "Demon Lover Diary" (1980)
>>> >
>>> > ---Buck Bito
>>> >
>>> > Lawrence "Buck" Bito
>>> > Movette Film Transfer
>>> > 1407 Valencia St.
>>> > San Francisco, CA 94110
>>> > (Valencia at 25th St.)
>>> > 415-558-8815
>>> > Open Tuesday - Saturday
>>> > Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
>>> > www.movettefilm.com
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:41 pm, Suyash Barve wrote:
>>> >> hello all,
>>> >>
>>> >> i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films
>>> >> made
>>> >> on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
>>> >> prodcution. ...
>>> >>
>>> >> thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice.
>>> looking
>>> >> forward to getting some responses!
>>> >>
>>> >> S
>>>
>>>
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>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Lena Ditte Nissen 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:35:21 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm
> Thanks Christopher - but I am literally talking about collage.. in very
> very small pieces...
> Best, Lena
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, christopher nigel <
> christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Lena ,
>> it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start wi

Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Francisco Torres
Oh Canada!

http://www.numbersfilmsupply.com/categories/FILM-SUPPLIES/SPLICING-TAPE/

2014-12-12 10:07 GMT-04:00 Warren Cockerham :
>
> This stuff works pretty well.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001A3Q1XQ/ref=pd_aw_sims_10?pi=SL500_SS115&simLd=1
>
> And a copy of this
>
> http://www.angoleiro.com/cine_texts/recipes_for_disaster_hill.pdf
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Christopher - but I am literally talking about collage.. in very
> very small pieces...
> Best, Lena
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, christopher nigel <
> christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Lena ,
>> it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start with tape slicing
>> , as if you make a mistake can always redo ?
>> if you find some old books on filmmaking , there will cover this ?
>>
>> I like this way of making films only done it with my super 8 film's ,
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm
>>> film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some
>>> questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hear from you!
>>> Best, Lena
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *LENADITTENISSEN.COM *
>>> *  BERGERNISSEN.COM *
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Warren Cockerham
This stuff works pretty well. 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001A3Q1XQ/ref=pd_aw_sims_10?pi=SL500_SS115&simLd=1

And a copy of this

http://www.angoleiro.com/cine_texts/recipes_for_disaster_hill.pdf




> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Christopher - but I am literally talking about collage.. in very very 
> small pieces...
> Best, Lena
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, christopher nigel 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello Lena ,
>> it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start with tape slicing , 
>> as if you make a mistake can always redo ?
>> if you find some old books on filmmaking , there will cover this ? 
>> 
>> I like this way of making films only done it with my super 8 film's ,  
>> 
>> Christopher 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen  
>>> wrote:
>>> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm 
>>> film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some 
>>> questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to hear from you!
>>> Best, Lena
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> LENADITTENISSEN.COM
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Lena Ditte Nissen
Thanks Christopher - but I am literally talking about collage.. in very
very small pieces...
Best, Lena


On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, christopher nigel <
christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Lena ,
> it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start with tape slicing ,
> as if you make a mistake can always redo ?
> if you find some old books on filmmaking , there will cover this ?
>
> I like this way of making films only done it with my super 8 film's ,
>
> Christopher
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm
>> film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some
>> questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>>
>> Looking forward to hear from you!
>> Best, Lena
>>
>>
>>
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[Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

2014-12-12 Thread Christina Kolozsvary
I know George Kuchar was mentioned already, but another film of his that
applies is Hold Me While I'm Naked.



On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Adam Sekuler > wrote:

> Raya Martin and Mark Peranson's  La última película
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:11 AM, christopher nigel <
> christophernige...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The last movie  By Dennis Hopper , Hopper was in many ways! way head !
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
>
>>  More documentaries about:
>>
>> Jodorowsky’s Dune (2014)
>> http://jodorowskysdune.com/
>>
>> Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno (2009):
>> http://www.flickeralley.com/catalog/item/inferno/hardgood
>>
>> On 12/6/14 3:10 AM, "Freya"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> In the realm of unfinished films I'm surprised nobody mentioned *Lost in
>> La Mancha *(2002)
>>
>> On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:54 PM, Gene Youngblood 
>> wrote:
>>
>> in the unfinished films category has anyone mentioned Wim wenders' The
>> State
>> of Things?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Amanda Christie
>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:39 AM
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
>>
>> my film Off Route 2 begins with myself hanging upside down in a car, but
>> then the camera pulls back and reveals the film crew as i get out of the
>> car
>> and switch from the roll of victim to the roll of the director. I explain
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>> that was discussed on camera is never actually filmed or shown on screen.
>>
>> http://www.amandadawnchristie.ca/off-route-2/
>>
>> the password to view any of the preview videos on my website is:
>> previewonly
>>
>>
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>> 
>> 506-871-2062
>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca
>> ___
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-10-09, at 12:40 PM, Buck Bito - Movette wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Suyash,
>> >
>> > Joel DeMott (and 'our own' Jeff Kreines):  "Demon Lover Diary" (1980)
>> >
>> > ---Buck Bito
>> >
>> > Lawrence "Buck" Bito
>> > Movette Film Transfer
>> > 1407 Valencia St.
>> > San Francisco, CA 94110
>> > (Valencia at 25th St.)
>> > 415-558-8815
>> > Open Tuesday - Saturday
>> > Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
>> > www.movettefilm.com
>> >
>> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:41 pm, Suyash Barve wrote:
>> >> hello all,
>> >>
>> >> i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films
>> >> made
>> >> on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in
>> >> prodcution. ...
>> >>
>> >> thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking
>> >> forward to getting some responses!
>> >>
>> >> S
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Milena
Dear Lena,

I would love to read the questions and answers if you find someone as I am 
interested too!

Thanks,
Milena

On 12 Dec 2014, at 10:13, Lena Ditte Nissen  wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm film 
> and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some questions 
> regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
> 
> Looking forward to hear from you!
> Best, Lena
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread christopher nigel
Hello Lena ,
it's called Editing , the handmade way ! I would start with tape slicing ,
as if you make a mistake can always redo ?
if you find some old books on filmmaking , there will cover this ?

I like this way of making films only done it with my super 8 film's ,

Christopher


On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen 
wrote:
>
> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm
> film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some
> questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...
>
> Looking forward to hear from you!
> Best, Lena
>
>
>
>
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[Frameworks] Analouge collage with 16mm....

2014-12-12 Thread Lena Ditte Nissen
Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm
film and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some
questions regarding glue, slicing techniques and so forth...

Looking forward to hear from you!
Best, Lena




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