Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Cari Machet
calm down tim you're getting too excited .. #boring
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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Jason Halprin
Tim - You can (and should)! Just set up a filter to have emails from anyone
you'd rather not hear from sent directly to your trash. Problem solved,
listserv members reduced by one. Separates the good stuff from the vitrol.

Sasha - as a long-time member of this list, and more importantly, and
artist and a teacher, I whole-heartedly support your response in this
thread. It is one thing to offer a disagreement over the merits of
presenting one work or another in a class, as well as to offer different
strategies that have been successful in the past when presenting this work,
but someone who seems to not know you personally did exactly what you
named: attacked your ability as a teacher, and dictated your responsibility
to your students. You have every right to respond directly, and publicly,
to this criticism, not matter who it's coming from (though you don't need
me, or anyone else to tell you that). I find it shameful that your response
has been made out to be the cause of the return to flameworks.

Jason Halprin
jihalp...@gmail.com

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 I just want to unsubscribe from you.

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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Jen Proctor
I think Sasha knows the spirit of her comments is supported both on and off
this list, but I wanted to openly add my voice to the chorus of supporters.

And I say this as someone who counts Wavelength among my very favorite
films, and who has shown it to students with all the passion, fervor, and
sense of curiosity I can muster, and who still has had students say they
wanted to set themselves on fire watching it. :/

P.S. I have pre-emptively told myself to heartily fuck off.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tim - You can (and should)! Just set up a filter to have emails from
 anyone you'd rather not hear from sent directly to your trash. Problem
 solved, listserv members reduced by one. Separates the good stuff from the
 vitrol.

 Sasha - as a long-time member of this list, and more importantly, and
 artist and a teacher, I whole-heartedly support your response in this
 thread. It is one thing to offer a disagreement over the merits of
 presenting one work or another in a class, as well as to offer different
 strategies that have been successful in the past when presenting this work,
 but someone who seems to not know you personally did exactly what you
 named: attacked your ability as a teacher, and dictated your responsibility
 to your students. You have every right to respond directly, and publicly,
 to this criticism, not matter who it's coming from (though you don't need
 me, or anyone else to tell you that). I find it shameful that your response
 has been made out to be the cause of the return to flameworks.

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[Frameworks] Etiquette

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Seery
Fight all you want, but please trim your posts down to the essential parts. 
Repeated quoting of entire digests and/or threads makes the list unreadable, 
especially for those of us receiving it in digest form.

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Re: [Frameworks] Etiquette

2015-04-01 Thread Al Matthews
+1

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 Fight all you want, but please trim your posts down to the essential
 parts. Repeated quoting of entire digests and/or threads makes the list
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Re: [Frameworks] Etiquette

2015-04-01 Thread Cari Machet
Thats all you got to contribute or complain about - geez cushion under ass
much ?
On Apr 1, 2015 8:25 AM, direc...@lift.on.ca wrote:

 But that might temper my anger!

  Fight all you want, but please trim your posts down to the essential
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  unreadable, especially for those of us receiving it in digest form.
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Warren Cockerham
Thanks, Pip!

Cyber-bullying is such a Western cowardice activity... it's a little ironic
to see it positioned as righteous.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com
wrote:

 Yes, the accounts of the subscribers who are posting off topic are now
 being moderated.
 - Pip Chodorov


 At 11:38 -0400 1/04/15, Edward Choi wrote:

 Can whoever moderates/administers this list please intervene? This got
 out of hand 24 hours ago.

 edo


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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Pip Chodorov
Yes, the accounts of the subscribers who are posting off topic are 
now being moderated.

- Pip Chodorov


At 11:38 -0400 1/04/15, Edward Choi wrote:
Can whoever moderates/administers this list please intervene? This 
got out of hand 24 hours ago.


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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Cari Machet
Jen you have no clue why those people were told to fuck off ?? try in
future to parse information please

Is it dificult to understand ethics violations or you just dont even bother
to consider ethics at all because you comfortably had a fucking cup of
tea this morning with goddamn sugar and cream in it and woman can do
whatever the fuck they want if they are western

Your little whiny western school children maybe should be shown footage of
monks self immulating in order to get a clue and maybe you yourself should
look at some war footage of what your precious west has done to vietnam or
iraqi men woman children plants animals art books world heritage sites and
consider ethics for 2 fucking seconds of your blip of a life

The unconsciousness of babbling support of a whiny western priviledged fuck
is repulsive
On Apr 1, 2015 6:39 AM, Jen Proctor proctor.jenni...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think Sasha knows the spirit of her comments is supported both on and
 off this list, but I wanted to openly add my voice to the chorus of
 supporters.

 And I say this as someone who counts Wavelength among my very favorite
 films, and who has shown it to students with all the passion, fervor, and
 sense of curiosity I can muster, and who still has had students say they
 wanted to set themselves on fire watching it. :/

 P.S. I have pre-emptively told myself to heartily fuck off.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tim - You can (and should)! Just set up a filter to have emails from
 anyone you'd rather not hear from sent directly to your trash. Problem
 solved, listserv members reduced by one. Separates the good stuff from the
 vitrol.

 Sasha - as a long-time member of this list, and more importantly, and
 artist and a teacher, I whole-heartedly support your response in this
 thread. It is one thing to offer a disagreement over the merits of
 presenting one work or another in a class, as well as to offer different
 strategies that have been successful in the past when presenting this work,
 but someone who seems to not know you personally did exactly what you
 named: attacked your ability as a teacher, and dictated your responsibility
 to your students. You have every right to respond directly, and publicly,
 to this criticism, not matter who it's coming from (though you don't need
 me, or anyone else to tell you that). I find it shameful that your response
 has been made out to be the cause of the return to flameworks.

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Re: [Frameworks] Etiquette

2015-04-01 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
amen

Chuck
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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Elisa Da Prato
agreed 

kindly,
e

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Edward Choi e...@uchicago.edu wrote:

 Can whoever moderates/administers this list please intervene? This got out
 of hand 24 hours ago.

 edo

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jen you have no clue why those people were told to fuck off ?? try in
 future to parse information please

 Is it dificult to understand ethics violations or you just dont even
 bother to consider ethics at all because you comfortably had a fucking
 cup of tea this morning with goddamn sugar and cream in it and woman can do
 whatever the fuck they want if they are western

 Your little whiny western school children maybe should be shown footage
 of monks self immulating in order to get a clue and maybe you yourself
 should look at some war footage of what your precious west has done to
 vietnam or iraqi men woman children plants animals art books world heritage
 sites and consider ethics for 2 fucking seconds of your blip of a life

 The unconsciousness of babbling support of a whiny western priviledged
 fuck is repulsive
 On Apr 1, 2015 6:39 AM, Jen Proctor proctor.jenni...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think Sasha knows the spirit of her comments is supported both on and
 off this list, but I wanted to openly add my voice to the chorus of
 supporters.

 And I say this as someone who counts Wavelength among my very favorite
 films, and who has shown it to students with all the passion, fervor, and
 sense of curiosity I can muster, and who still has had students say they
 wanted to set themselves on fire watching it. :/

 P.S. I have pre-emptively told myself to heartily fuck off.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Tim - You can (and should)! Just set up a filter to have emails from
 anyone you'd rather not hear from sent directly to your trash. Problem
 solved, listserv members reduced by one. Separates the good stuff from the
 vitrol.

 Sasha - as a long-time member of this list, and more importantly, and
 artist and a teacher, I whole-heartedly support your response in this
 thread. It is one thing to offer a disagreement over the merits of
 presenting one work or another in a class, as well as to offer different
 strategies that have been successful in the past when presenting this work,
 but someone who seems to not know you personally did exactly what you
 named: attacked your ability as a teacher, and dictated your responsibility
 to your students. You have every right to respond directly, and publicly,
 to this criticism, not matter who it's coming from (though you don't need
 me, or anyone else to tell you that). I find it shameful that your response
 has been made out to be the cause of the return to flameworks.

 Jason Halprin
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Re: [Frameworks] RIP Robert Russett

2015-04-01 Thread Libi Striegl
Sad to hear. His work (both on the page and on the screen) has meant so
much to my own.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Mark Toscano mrkt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very very sorry to report that we lost the brilliant and incredible artist
 and scholar Robert Russett on March 26.

 For the past few years, I've been honored to work with him on restoring
 his remarkable 16mm films, something which is still ongoing.  Bob was
 really thrilled that people had started to rediscover his singular film
 work, and I'm eager to continue until all are preserved and screenable
 again.

 He was particularly gratified that Primary Stimulus and Neuron found an
 enthusiastic new audience at Views From the Avant-Garde at NY Film Fest a
 couple of years ago, having been rejected by the festival at least a few
 times in the '70s (!)  Thanks to Mark McElhatten for enabling us to share
 those.

 For those of you who may only know Robert Russett for his co-writing (with
 the amazing Cecile Starr) of the crucial Experimental Animation, you will
 soon have an unreal body of work to discover.  Keep an eye out!

 RIP Bob...

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Re: [Frameworks] Etiquette

2015-04-01 Thread director
But that might temper my anger!

 Fight all you want, but please trim your posts down to the essential
 parts. Repeated quoting of entire digests and/or threads makes the list
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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Greg DeCuir
I'm with you Kelly and everything you're saying, even though I have only 
followed this thread intermittently. A bit more maturity and understanding on 
all sides seems like it would not hurt.
For what it is worth, and in my humble opinion, Sadie Benning's It Wasn't 
Love is one of the greatest works of cinema I have ever seen, barring no one 
and nothing. It will always have a special place in my own personal canon, 
which I only hope is out of step with accepted/entrenched/official ones.
Cordially,
Greg de Cuir, JrSelector/Curator, Alternative Film/Video Belgrade

  From: Kelly Gallagher ke...@purpleriot.com
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood
   
Sasha, I appreciate your intelligent and helpful response bringing some radical 
women filmmakers into the original post. Sometimes many people in this space 
seem to get very stuck on notions of the canon which means that important work 
like that of Sadie Benning and Hito Steyerl gets swiped aside. As a young woman 
experimental filmmaker I appreciate your challenging and provoking comments in 
your original post.
As a young woman experimental filmmaker I also stand fervently and explicitly 
against sexist and patronizing comments, tone, and antagonizing. I'm a little 
taken aback that more people haven't loudly and explicitly critiqued the sexism 
and sexist patronizing/condescension that was thrown at Sasha and I'm kind of 
surprised and disappointed. Frameworks will continue to lose many radical and 
important filmmakers, thinkers, and feminists, especially many young 
filmmakers, over deplorable vitriol such as what's played out here in this 
incident.In solidarity with Sasha, Kim, and all women filmmakers in 
experimental spaces who demand to stop being condescended to.
-Kelly
















On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote:

Calm down.
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
Tim
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 31, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:


gene owes no fucking apology in any way 
you on the other hand need to do some hefty work on yourself - obliviousness to 
self critique is a frightening place to even witness
a hearty fuck off to you sasha
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:08 PM, chris bravo iamdir...@gmail.com wrote:

Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to Wavelength

your rhetoric wasn't excessive it was offensive. 
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Sasha Waters Freyer swfre...@vcu.edu wrote:


Mr. Youngblood,
Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to Wavelength offended you.  
However, turning a critical disagreement over a 48-year-old film is no excuse 
to attack my ability as a teacher or to dictate my responsibility to my 
students. I will chalk this exchange up to your passion for Snow's work, and 
not an inherent rudeness of your character.  I accept your apology in advance.
Yours,

Sasha Waters Freyer

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Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

2015-04-01 Thread Rob Gawthrop
More critical debate about what films to recommend to be introduced to, and 
discussed and less affected fallacies.

But … Sam Taylor-Wood - glossy Warhol derived,  made easy for the international 
art market,  and what has she made recently? that great call to feminism with 
her 50 shades of what? (and its not even monochrome).

Rob


On 1 Apr 2015, at 19:01, Greg DeCuir g

dec...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm with you Kelly and everything you're saying, even though I have only 
 followed this thread intermittently. A bit more maturity and understanding on 
 all sides seems like it would not hurt.
 
 For what it is worth, and in my humble opinion, Sadie Benning's It Wasn't 
 Love is one of the greatest works of cinema I have ever seen, barring no one 
 and nothing. It will always have a special place in my own personal canon, 
 which I only hope is out of step with accepted/entrenched/official ones.
 
 Cordially,
 
 Greg de Cuir, Jr
 Selector/Curator, Alternative Film/Video Belgrade
 
 From: Kelly Gallagher ke...@purpleriot.com
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood
 
 Sasha, I appreciate your intelligent and helpful response bringing some 
 radical women filmmakers into the original post. Sometimes many people in 
 this space seem to get very stuck on notions of the canon which means that 
 important work like that of Sadie Benning and Hito Steyerl gets swiped aside. 
 As a young woman experimental filmmaker I appreciate your challenging and 
 provoking comments in your original post.
 As a young woman experimental filmmaker I also stand fervently and explicitly 
 against sexist and patronizing comments, tone, and antagonizing. I'm a little 
 taken aback that more people haven't loudly and explicitly critiqued the 
 sexism and sexist patronizing/condescension that was thrown at Sasha and I'm 
 kind of surprised and disappointed. Frameworks will continue to lose many 
 radical and important filmmakers, thinkers, and feminists, especially many 
 young filmmakers, over deplorable vitriol such as what's played out here in 
 this incident.
 In solidarity with Sasha, Kim, and all women filmmakers in experimental 
 spaces who demand to stop being condescended to.
 -Kelly
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Calm down.
 
 Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
 
 Tim
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 31, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 gene owes no fucking apology in any way 
 
 you on the other hand need to do some hefty work on yourself - obliviousness 
 to self critique is a frightening place to even witness
 
 a hearty fuck off to you sasha
 
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:08 PM, chris bravo iamdir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to Wavelength
 
 your rhetoric wasn't excessive it was offensive. 
 
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Sasha Waters Freyer swfre...@vcu.edu 
 wrote:
 
 Mr. Youngblood,
 
 Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to Wavelength offended you.  
 However, turning a critical disagreement over a 48-year-old film is no 
 excuse to attack my ability as a teacher or to dictate my responsibility 
 to my students. I will chalk this exchange up to your passion for Snow's 
 work, and not an inherent rudeness of your character.  I accept your apology 
 in advance.
 
 Yours,
 
 
 Sasha Waters Freyer
 
 
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2. Looking to purchase a JK Optical Printer (Christopher Harris)
3. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
   Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
   (Bernard Roddy)
4. 3 sound works (Bernard Roddy)
5. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
   Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
   (direc...@lift.on.ca)
6. Re: VSW - to your attention! (Amanda Christie)
7. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
   Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
   (Kelly Gallagher)
8. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
   Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
   

Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

2015-04-01 Thread Maat Galindo
I appreciate the links everyone, I will dive into their site !

Mathew Galindo

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:

 It’s all here http://www.vasulka.org/index.html . Go to “Site Map,” then
 “Kitchen.”

 On Mar 31, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Elizabeth McMahon elizmcma...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'd start with this. It is the definition of a tome.
 http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Heads-Practice-Pioneers-1973--1990/dp/0262720507/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1427818203sr=8-1keywords=buffalo+media+vasulka

 Elizabeth McMahon

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Maat Galindo odnila...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am conducting a research paper on  the history of The Kitchen, the role
 of the Vasulkas and their contributions to experimental media.

 Does anyone have any readings on these subjects that they can link me to?

 Thanks,

 Mathew Galindo

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[Frameworks] new works at The Huntington

2015-04-01 Thread kate lain
Frameworkers!  I wanted to let you know about a few new works that you’ll
be able to check out starting this Saturday in a new orientation gallery
opening up at [my place of employment:] The Huntington Library, Art
Collections, and Botanical Gardens just outside Los Angeles.  We
commissioned three site-specific silent works by L.A.-area artists
Charlotte Pryce, Rick Bahto, and Steve Roden, and those will be projected
large (nearly floor to ceiling) onto the walls of the entryway.  We also
brought in local artist Cosmo Segurson to head up a team to make a really
cool history-of-the-place video that mixes animation, archival materials,
and other good stuff.  In an adjacent space is a sound installation by
Texas-based artist Justin Boyd.  A feast for the senses!  Pretty new
direction for the institution—and maybe a fun one for those of us into
alternative/experimental moving image and such.  It’s a permanent
installation (or as permanent as museum things ever are), so no rush, but I
do hope you can check it out if you’re in the area!

Best,
Kate

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[Frameworks] final tour dates.

2015-04-01 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
All,

As I think I’ve announced here before, I’ve been on the road since Jan. 15 
showing a program of my multiple-projector films along with my most recent HD 
video essay.  I’m entering the last leg of that tour, so I just wanted to give 
a heads up to any of you in Western Canada or the (U.S.) Midwest about these 
final shows.  Remaining dates are detailed below.  If you find yourself in one 
of these cities, I hope you’ll come out and say hello.

Best (from Vancouver),
Roger

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April 1  //  Vancouver, BC  //  DIM Cinema at the Cinematheque (1131 Howe St.)  
//  7:30 pm

April 4  //  Edmonton, AB  //  FAVA (9722 102 St.)  //  8 pm

April 6  //  Saskatoon, SK  //  PAVED Arts (424 20th St. W)  //  8 pm

April 7  //  Regina, SK  //  Regina Public Library Theatre (2311 12th Ave.)  // 
 7 pm

April 9  // Winnipeg, MB  //  Winnipeg Film Group Cinematheque (100 Arthur St.) 
 //  7 pm

April 12  //  Northfield, MN  //  Carleton College (1 North College St.)  //  5 
pm

April 16 //  Milwaukee, WI  //  INOVA (2155 N. Prospect Ave.)  //  TBA

April 20  //  Chicago, IL  //  Constellation (3111 N. Western Ave.)  //  7 pm

April 21  //  Bloomington, IN  //  The Bishop  //  9 pm
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Re: [Frameworks] Derivés and City Symphonies

2015-04-01 Thread konstantinos-antonios goutos
it is video,

the sound and the length of the shootings are the original,

no moment of the shooting was removed by cutting,


the sequence of the scenes is the same as the shooting was, without any cut
or use of effects,

comments, archive material or music was not used...
but i am not sure if one can call
dérive or stroling

a walk through a place like auschwitz...

the[video]Flâneu(R) shoots auschwitz
https://sites.google.com/site/videoflaneur2/the-videoflaneur-shoots-auschwitz

http://vad.nmartproject.net/?page_id=1975

konstantinos-antonios goutos
please stroll with your mouse through my new web'xperiment-in-progress here!
http://konstantinosantoniosgoutos.wordpress.com/

2015-03-05 7:15 GMT+01:00 Dominic Angerame dominic.anger...@gmail.com:

 Check out my City Symphony Series that includes: Continuum; Deconstruction
 Sight; Premonition; In the Course of Human Events; Line of Fire and The
 Soul of Things. You can find descriptions on my website www.cinemod.net
 also view some of the work on Fandor or Mubi or contact me off the list at
 domi...@cinemod.net

 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Eric Theise ericthe...@gmail.com wrote:

 James Benning's 9/1/75?

 P.S. Having made this mistake myself, the correct spelling is dérive, not
 derivé, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9rive

 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu wrote:


  Matt McCormick's _Subconscious Art of Graffitt Removal_, perhaps?



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 *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2015 5:44 PM
 *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Derivés and City Symphonies

  Hollis Frampton's Surface Tension

  Wolf Vostell's Notstandbordstein sort of flips the derive - it turns
 the streets themselves into a screen - but the images are projected outside
 of a car, so it may not be appropriate. Youngblood talks about it in
 Expanded Cinema and there's a copy I believe at Filmmaker's Co-op.




 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Off the top of my head, here are two that might fit:

  Bruce Biaille - Castro Street
 Richard Myers - Zocalo


   Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.com

  On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Kelsey Velez kelsve...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

   Framworkers,

 I'm seeking suggestions for film based derivés, shot on 16mm or
 8/s8mm. If you have an outstanding example of a video derivé to share,
 please feel welcome to do so. Anything in the vein of Tomonari 
 Nishikawa's *Market
 Street* is ideal, but if you are particularly keen on a
 representational piece that does something interesting viz. the derivé,
 don't hold back.

  kv

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