Re: [Frameworks] working with salt

[40 Frames]

You might ask Robert Schaller, or those who have attended one of his camps.
He does a summer camp in the San Juan Island, and
I believe they use salt water in the processing.

Alain



On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Amanda Christie <
ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:

> hello all!
>
> I'm curious about what sort of processes are out there for working with
> salt and film.
>
> I have a residency on Prince Edward Island for the month of August, where
> I will be getting back to handmade film after a too-long hiatus... and
> since I will be surrounded by ocean... I'd like to work with salt and salt
> water from the ocean
>
> Any tips, tricks, techniques, or experiments that you'd like to share
> about working with salt would be much appreciated!
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> xoadc
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Rephotographing 16mm

[Scott Dorsey]

Likely you could also just get it contact printed.  I think just about every
lab out there would make an internegative from it and then an interpositive
from the interneg but in days gone by it used to be possible to make a 
reversal interpositive right off the original.  The downside of this is that
your interpositive is A-roll but that might not disturb you.
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Rephotographing 16mm

[Christine Lucy Latimer]

Hey Morgan,

Optically printing is a possibility - you would have to run some tests
(using various exposures and filter combinations) in order to determine
what will work best in preventing overall detail loss in the image.
Depending on where you are and your access to a lab, you could also just
get a lab to strike an interneg from your dark original and have them push
the neg by a stop (or whatever you feel you need?) This may be a faster,
less laborious process than running your own tests/optically printing. All
this said, either way, you'll definitely risk losing image detail by
striking off of a dark original, which can be an interesting aesthetic, if
you're okay with it.

-C.

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[Frameworks] working with salt

[Amanda Christie]

hello all!

I'm curious about what sort of processes are out there for working with salt 
and film.

I have a residency on Prince Edward Island for the month of August, where I 
will be getting back to handmade film after a too-long hiatus... and since I 
will be surrounded by ocean... I'd like to work with salt and salt water from 
the ocean 

Any tips, tricks, techniques, or experiments that you'd like to share about 
working with salt would be much appreciated!

Thanks so much!

xoadc



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Re: [Frameworks] Rephotographing 16mm

[Amanda Christie]

I often enjoy running film that is too dense through a reducer which is a 
chemical that actually pulls out some of the excess silver.

Farmer's reducer was wonderful (two part powder packet) but they don't make 
it anymore... I used to have a lot of expired packets... I'm sure there is a 
recipe out there to make some.

It is very tricky though, and it's easy to go too far and loose your whole 
image... so be careful and go little by little it keeps reducing even after 
you take it out of the bath and put it into the water... so remove it just 
before you get to where you want to be this step you can do in the light, 
so you can watch it reducing, then take it out before it's done and put it in 
the water.

Don't do it your first time on footage that is precious though 
It's really easy to fuck up and either loose your whole image or have really 
inconsistent results.


adc


On 2016-07-12, at 7:26 AM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs wrote:

> Hello all, 
> 
> Not sure if my first message got through, but here it goes again:
> 
> One of my 16mm films came out a little too dense. It was a Double X roll 
> processed as a reversal but the end result was rather dark. There's still 
> images but they need to be blown out. Is there a way to rephotograph the roll 
> to give it more contrast? Could this be done via optical printer? 
> 
> Let me know whatever helps! 
> 
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