Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films before 1910

[Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza]

A lot of the early Emile Cohl films deliberately push technological boundaries. 
 There is one that I remember that handles morphing effects in faces very much 
in the fad of early digital motion graphics (like the typical Michael Jackson 
“Black or White” video).  I think the film is Les transfigurations from 1909, 
but I am not sure.  His whole ouvre is worth checking out.



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The films of Segundo De Chomon are worth a look.
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films before 1910

[Francisco Torres]

The films of Segundo De Chomon are worth a look.
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films before 1910

[Rob Gawthrop]

Mark

Apart from obvious Méliès & Zecca  …   some regressive historians have 
considered early films (sometimes insultingly described as primitive) based 
mainly on formal achievement ( the first close-up, edit etc.) or precursors of 
hollywood narrative (point of view, establishing shots etc.) and have dismissed 
other aspects as being just amusing ‘trick films’.

The following favourites (often mentioned  in the above context) have both 
perceptual and conceptual content that  relate to concerns in some structural 
films, indeed some film artists (myself included)  have remade or 
recontextualised such films from this period.

James Williamson: The Big Swallow 1901
  : An Interesting Story 1904
George Albert Smith: The Miller & The Sweep 1898  (& much copied)
Cecil Hepworth: How it Feels to be Run Over 1900
Edwin S Porter: The Dream of a Rarebit Fiend 1906

Rob

On 13 Dec 2017, at 16:27, Mark Street  wrote:

> Hey All,
> 
> Preparing a brief talk on The Experimental Impulse in Early Cinema 
> thinking about how it ALL was that way by definition early on; an inventory 
> of tricks, effusions, failed and successful experiments.
> 
> Any favorites anyone can recommend?  
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Re: [Frameworks] Need articles about film transfer

[Chris Lange]

Talking about compression degradation and the difference between projections / 
displays?  Sounds neat.

There is a film documentary about film vs digital, Side by Side.

Chris
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> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Jess Hock  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
> I'm making a comic about the quality degradation that happens to celluloid 
> film, especially direct animation, as it is transferred to digital media and 
> put onto Youtube. I'm looking for peer-reviewed articles about this topic. 
> Can anyone point me in the right direction? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Jess
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[Frameworks] Need articles about film transfer

[Jess Hock]

Hi Everyone,
I'm making a comic about the quality degradation that happens to celluloid
film, especially direct animation, as it is transferred to digital media
and put onto Youtube. I'm looking for peer-reviewed articles about this
topic. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
Jess

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Re: [Frameworks] 1920s German abstraction

[C Keefer]

Louise O'Konor's monograph on Viking Eggeling

Jeanpaul Goergen, ed., Walther Ruttmann: Eine Dokumentation.Freunde der
Deutschen Kinemathek (1989)  (contact CVM if you cannot find this).

Recent Oskar Fischinger monograph, includes material on his 1920s work:
Keefer, Cindy and J. Guldemond, eds. *Oskar Fischinger (1900-1967),
Experiments in Cinematic Abstraction*.  2003, distributed by Thames & Hudson

Ingo is correct, be careful of Richter's film dates and other information,
especially about the other abstract filmmakers working in the 1920s. Much
of what he published in the *Art in Cinema* catalog, for example, is
factually incorrect (Fischinger wrote a very strong letter correcting
errors, stating nearly all of what he wrote is false. Some is quoted in the
Fischinger book above, and some on the CVM Fischinger research site).

See Jeanpaul Goergen's recent small monograph on Richter, about his
backdating of the films.  I'm traveling and don't have full citation, sorry.

There is also a wonderful recent collection of texts and writing on
absolute film and film in the 1920s, I will find that citation next week.
German publication.

best regards,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
www.centerforvisualmusic.org
CVM email is cvmaccess (at) gmail.com



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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films before 1910

[Jonathan Walley]

Hi Mark,

One favorite springs to mind immediately: *Ladies Skirts Nailed to a Fence*
(1899)/. Two women (actually men in drag) stand at a fence gossiping, and a
young scalawag sneaks up behind them, pulls the ends of their long,
Victorian skirts through the slats in the fence, and nails them to said
fence. When the "ladies" notice this, they try to run away, but are stuck,
of course. Instead of moving the camera to either side of the fence for the
two recto/verso views, the filmmakers moved the *actors*. This variation on
shot/reverse-shot is pretty awesome, and the pantomiming of femininity by
the male actors is a bonus.

I'm sure I'll think of more - this is a favorite topic.
All best,
Jonathan

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Mark Street  wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> Preparing a brief talk on The Experimental Impulse in Early Cinema
> thinking about how it ALL was that way by definition early on; an inventory
> of tricks, effusions, failed and successful experiments.
>
> Any favorites anyone can recommend?
>
> Mark
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