Re: [Frameworks] [Labos] Newly Available: Eastman 7363 Single Perf Super 16

2018-06-20 Thread Ruth Hayes 
Hi Zach, 

At Photoland at the Evergreen State College, I’ve been processing the old 7363 
I have (before Kodak discontinued it) as negative in Eco-Pro developer for 
paper prints. That’s what Photoland uses, and it’s worked really really well 
for me.

Ruth

http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

> On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:11 AM, Zach Hart  wrote:
> 
> Hey Roger,
> 
> Thanks so much for the update. I went ahead and bought quite a bit of the 
> stock. I used to shoot 7363 as camera film until it got discontinued a couple 
> years back. 
> 
> I'm wondering if you or anyone have shot the new stuff? I did a small test 
> rating (as I used to) at ASA 12. I shot under a tungsten balanced light and 
> developed in D76 at 80 degrees fro 5 minutes. 
> 
> I know D76 is not generally what one would use for developing this stock, but 
> in my previous experience with this film I got a good exposure with any 
> developer. The film came out fine, but there is a lot of chemical remnant and 
> it is very very dirty and watermarked. 
> This is all strange since my experience with Polyester stock is that it 
> washes and drys very well with or without photo-flo. 
> 
> Anyways, anyone know if the color change from yellow to gray is due to the 
> polyester base? It used to be acetate. And please let me know your own 
> experience with developing/exposing this new batch because it seems to be a 
> bit of a different emulsion than I remember. 
> I contacted Kodak and they told me it is emulsion 292 (I have no idea what 
> this means). Anyone know if that's what it used to be? Kodak also mentioned 
> that it should be rated at ASA 20-24. I'm assuming that's for tungsten light? 
> 
> Here's a sample frame of my recent test. The chemical remnant is definitely 
> more prominent as a negative, but I still want to eliminate it if it's 
> possible
> 
> 
> best,
> Zach
> 
> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Beebe, Roger W.  > wrote:
> All,
> 
> I realized that I only saw this on the film labs mailing list & thought some 
> (many?) of you might be interested.  Get it while it lasts…
> 
> FYI,
> Roger
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Elena Rossi-Snook > >
>> Subject: [Labos] Newly Available: Eastman 7363 Single Perf Super 16
>> Date: May 23, 2018 at 10:47:06 AM EDT
>> To: "fo...@filmlabs.org " > >
>> Reply-To: forum labo mailto:fo...@filmlabs.org>>
>> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> This just in from Kodak Technical Director Bev Pasterczyk: KODAK is pleased 
>> to announce the limited release of EASTMAN High-Contrast Positive Film II 
>> 7363 in single perf Super 16 format. Product will be sold until inventory is 
>> depleted. You can use this for black leader if the film is exposed and 
>> processed as Dmax. 
>> 
>> If you don't know your regional Kodak rep, you can always contact Bev 
>> directly [in L.A.] 
>> 
>> Elena Rossi-Snook | Chair
>> AMIA Film Advocacy Task Force
>>  
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: [Labos] Newly Available: Eastman 7363 Single Perf Super 16

2018-06-20 Thread Isaac Brooks 
To Zach -

Interesting to see this info.

I have yet to shoot with this new batch, and the emulsion type 292 is not
something I can speak to regarding consistency with the older stuff. That
said, I would assume an ASA of around 24 would apply to daylight, if you
are developing as negative. Reversal processing and color temp will inform
that number of course. But I expose the old 7363 at 25 under daylight prior
to negative processing in D-19 (also near extinct). I never much liked
using D-76 for this film and it's been awhile since I tried it - although I
agree with you that there are many processing kits / developers that will
do 7363 justice once you have it down.

How are you washing it? Are you blow drying it at all? Just curious.

Isaac


On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:42 PM Chris G  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> It’s poly-base now? Kind of lame. Can’t speak to any of Zach’s questions
> but I asked the Kodak rep here in Germany about acquiring this and he
> didn’t know or couldn’t find anything out. Does anyone know if Kodak still
> has any? If so, does anyone have contact (phone or email please)- I
> couldn’t find any info for the person mentioned before. Has anyone been
> able to get any in Europe? Are they only selling it as 5x400’ cans?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> On Jun 20, 2018, at 16:11, Zach Hart  wrote:
>
> Hey Roger,
>
> Thanks so much for the update. I went ahead and bought quite a bit of the
> stock. I used to shoot 7363 as camera film until it got discontinued a
> couple years back.
>
> I'm wondering if you or anyone have shot the new stuff? I did a small test
> rating (as I used to) at ASA 12. I shot under a tungsten balanced light and
> developed in D76 at 80 degrees fro 5 minutes.
>
> I know D76 is not generally what one would use for developing this stock,
> but in my previous experience with this film I got a good exposure with any
> developer. The film came out fine, but there is a lot of chemical remnant
> and it is very very dirty and watermarked.
> This is all strange since my experience with Polyester stock is that it
> washes and drys very well with or without photo-flo.
>
> Anyways, anyone know if the color change from yellow to gray is due to the
> polyester base? It used to be acetate. And please let me know your own
> experience with developing/exposing this new batch because it seems to be a
> bit of a different emulsion than I remember.
> I contacted Kodak and they told me it is emulsion 292 (I have no idea what
> this means). Anyone know if that's what it used to be? Kodak also mentioned
> that it should be rated at ASA 20-24. I'm assuming that's for tungsten
> light?
>
> Here's a sample frame of my recent test. The chemical remnant is
> definitely more prominent as a negative, but I still want to eliminate it
> if it's possible
> 
>
> best,
> Zach
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Beebe, Roger W. 
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I realized that I only saw this on the film labs mailing list & thought
>> some (many?) of you might be interested.  Get it while it lasts…
>>
>> FYI,
>> Roger
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Elena Rossi-Snook 
>> *Subject: **[Labos] Newly Available: Eastman 7363 Single Perf Super 16*
>> *Date: *May 23, 2018 at 10:47:06 AM EDT
>> *To: *"fo...@filmlabs.org" 
>> *Reply-To: *forum labo 
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> This just in from Kodak Technical Director Bev Pasterczyk: KODAK is
>> pleased to announce the limited release of EASTMAN High-Contrast Positive
>> Film II 7363 in single perf Super 16 format. Product will be sold until
>> inventory is depleted. You can use this for black leader if the film is
>> exposed and processed as Dmax.
>>
>> If you don't know your regional Kodak rep, you can always contact Bev
>> directly [in L.A.]
>>
>> *Elena Rossi-Snook *| *Chair*
>> *AMIA Film Advocacy Task Force*
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: [Labos] Newly Available: Eastman 7363 Single Perf Super 16

2018-06-20 Thread Chris G 
Hey,

It’s poly-base now? Kind of lame. Can’t speak to any of Zach’s questions but I 
asked the Kodak rep here in Germany about acquiring this and he didn’t know or 
couldn’t find anything out. Does anyone know if Kodak still has any? If so, 
does anyone have contact (phone or email please)- I couldn’t find any info for 
the person mentioned before. Has anyone been able to get any in Europe? Are 
they only selling it as 5x400’ cans? 

Thanks,
Chris

> On Jun 20, 2018, at 16:11, Zach Hart  wrote:
> 
> Hey Roger,
> 
> Thanks so much for the update. I went ahead and bought quite a bit of the 
> stock. I used to shoot 7363 as camera film until it got discontinued a couple 
> years back. 
> 
> I'm wondering if you or anyone have shot the new stuff? I did a small test 
> rating (as I used to) at ASA 12. I shot under a tungsten balanced light and 
> developed in D76 at 80 degrees fro 5 minutes. 
> 
> I know D76 is not generally what one would use for developing this stock, but 
> in my previous experience with this film I got a good exposure with any 
> developer. The film came out fine, but there is a lot of chemical remnant and 
> it is very very dirty and watermarked. 
> This is all strange since my experience with Polyester stock is that it 
> washes and drys very well with or without photo-flo. 
> 
> Anyways, anyone know if the color change from yellow to gray is due to the 
> polyester base? It used to be acetate. And please let me know your own 
> experience with developing/exposing this new batch because it seems to be a 
> bit of a different emulsion than I remember. 
> I contacted Kodak and they told me it is emulsion 292 (I have no idea what 
> this means). Anyone know if that's what it used to be? Kodak also mentioned 
> that it should be rated at ASA 20-24. I'm assuming that's for tungsten light? 
> 
> Here's a sample frame of my recent test. The chemical remnant is definitely 
> more prominent as a negative, but I still want to eliminate it if it's 
> possible
> 
> 
> best,
> Zach
> 
>> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> I realized that I only saw this on the film labs mailing list & thought some 
>> (many?) of you might be interested.  Get it while it lasts…
>> 
>> FYI,
>> Roger
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Elena Rossi-Snook 
>>> Subject: [Labos] Newly Available: Eastman 7363 Single Perf Super 16
>>> Date: May 23, 2018 at 10:47:06 AM EDT
>>> To: "fo...@filmlabs.org" 
>>> Reply-To: forum labo 
>>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> 
>>> This just in from Kodak Technical Director Bev Pasterczyk: KODAK is pleased 
>>> to announce the limited release of EASTMAN High-Contrast Positive Film II 
>>> 7363 in single perf Super 16 format. Product will be sold until inventory 
>>> is depleted. You can use this for black leader if the film is exposed and 
>>> processed as Dmax. 
>>> 
>>> If you don't know your regional Kodak rep, you can always contact Bev 
>>> directly [in L.A.] 
>>> 
>>> Elena Rossi-Snook | Chair
>>> AMIA Film Advocacy Task Force
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> Forum mailing list
>>> fo...@filmlabs.org
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