[Frameworks] Herald-examiner

[Gene Youngblood]

A question for Frameworkers in Los Angeles. At one time there were plans to 
have a restaurant in the old Herald-Examiner building downtown. I believe the 
University of Arizona occupies the building today. Was the restaurant ever 
opened at the corner of 11th and Broadway?



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[Frameworks] Adriano Apra

[Gene Youngblood]

Does anyone on this list know Adriano Apra in Rome, who used to be director of 
the Pesaro Film Festival? We were recently in an ongoing email conversation and 
all of a sudden he was silent. No response. We’ve been friends for decades. I 
fear the worst. Can anyone direct me to someone who might know?


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Re: [Frameworks] movie scenes

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks Salhas. We prefer that it not be San Francisco. A few posts ago I 
mentioned "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,” which we are using.


On May 22, 2020 at 12:41:39 PM, sal...@gmail.com (sal...@gmail.com) wrote:

If you would like some San Fran scenery to cut to, I wonder if that Wild 
Parrots of Telegraph Hill documentary from 2003 byJudy Irving would have some 
footage you’re looking for.

 

It seems that Kanopy, a streaming service used by many public/college 
libraries, has it available.

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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] movie scenes

 

Thanks Dave, and everyone else. I apologize. I haven’t been communicating 
clearly because I didn’t want to explain what I now realize I must explain. 
It’s this: in at least half of his 232 diaries, George places his camera at 
some distance from himself outdoors (like 20-50 feet away) and records himself 
walking along like any normal person would walk. No big drama. Just simply 
walking around looking at the world. The wide angle shots are intercut with low 
angle closeups of himself looking (as in “Hold me…”).

 

The “world” he most frequently walks through in this manner is his beloved San 
Francisco. We have compiled 26 years of those street scenes into a magnificent 
portrait of that beautiful city. That’s what I mean by “mythic”—George the 
mythical wayfarer as an emergent property of the whole.

 

The second “world” he most frequently walks through is El Reno, Oklahoma, the 
location of his weather diaries, where he continues mythologizing himself as 
the Walt Whitman-esque traveler.

 

We are seeking similar scenes from commercial cinema because we’ve been able to 
identify what we think are Hollywood inspirations for several other motifs (or 
single scenes) in the diaries. Some are obvious references, others are more 
generic, as in the present case, and that seems to be the problem. What we seek 
now is so generic that it may be invisible to memory, but I thought I’d give it 
a try.

 

 

On May 22, 2020 at 10:07:49 AM, Dave Tetzlaff (djte...@gmail.com) wrote:

Gene:

When you say “mythic shot of protagonist walking” my first thought is Woody 
Guthrie walking through the migrant camp in “Bound for Glory”. But this may not 
fit what you’re thinking of as it’s a long take rather than a montage, and the 
camera is following the protagonist so we don’t see his reactions. There are 
any number of similar following-long-takes in other films, including the famous 
onto-the-stage shot in “Primary” and the parody of it in “Spinal Tap”.

If this relates to Kuchar-cam shots, e.g. in “Hold Me…” of course there’s “Pi” 
(and maybe other?) by Aronofsky.

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Re: [Frameworks] movie scenes

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks Dave, and everyone else. I apologize. I haven’t been communicating 
clearly because I didn’t want to explain what I now realize I must explain. 
It’s this: in at least half of his 232 diaries, George places his camera at 
some distance from himself outdoors (like 20-50 feet away) and records himself 
walking along like any normal person would walk. No big drama. Just simply 
walking around looking at the world. The wide angle shots are intercut with low 
angle closeups of himself looking (as in “Hold me…”).

The “world” he most frequently walks through in this manner is his beloved San 
Francisco. We have compiled 26 years of those street scenes into a magnificent 
portrait of that beautiful city. That’s what I mean by “mythic”—George the 
mythical wayfarer as an emergent property of the whole.

The second “world” he most frequently walks through is El Reno, Oklahoma, the 
location of his weather diaries, where he continues mythologizing himself as 
the Walt Whitman-esque traveler.

We are seeking similar scenes from commercial cinema because we’ve been able to 
identify what we think are Hollywood inspirations for several other motifs (or 
single scenes) in the diaries. Some are obvious references, others are more 
generic, as in the present case, and that seems to be the problem. What we seek 
now is so generic that it may be invisible to memory, but I thought I’d give it 
a try.


On May 22, 2020 at 10:07:49 AM, Dave Tetzlaff (djte...@gmail.com) wrote:

Gene:

When you say “mythic shot of protagonist walking” my first thought is Woody 
Guthrie walking through the migrant camp in “Bound for Glory”. But this may not 
fit what you’re thinking of as it’s a long take rather than a montage, and the 
camera is following the protagonist so we don’t see his reactions. There are 
any number of similar following-long-takes in other films, including the famous 
onto-the-stage shot in “Primary” and the parody of it in “Spinal Tap”.

If this relates to Kuchar-cam shots, e.g. in “Hold Me…” of course there’s “Pi” 
(and maybe other?) by Aronofsky.

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[Frameworks] walking through the world

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks, everyone, for the quick responses. I can see I need to be more 
specific. 

First, the clip must be in a readily available film, which most likely means a 
narrative feature (but not necessarily). If it’s not a well known film, I need 
a link to it.

Second, it will ideally have a “mythic” quality. “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” 
comes to mind, even though the “world” he walks through is only Washington, 
D.C. Again, that quality is ideal but not essential.

Another ideal is a montage-like structure in which we periodically see the 
protagonist gazing at the world through which he moves—looking up at 
skyscrapers or mountain peaks, for example, or just “looking around” at the 
environment out of curiosity.

There are hundreds of such scenes, and I probably have them in my library, but 
“memory” is something that I remember I once had.

This is for my Kuchar project, so the wayfarer must be male.

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[Frameworks] movie scenes

[Gene Youngblood]

I got a lot of great responses the last time I did this, so here we go again:

I’m looking for scenes or sequences in which the protagonist is shown walking 
through the world. It could be a big city or a spectacular countryside. Could 
be a wayfarer on some kind of journey. Sometimes done with lap dissolves, 
sometimes just a series of shots. Anything approximatikng that will be 
appreciated and acknowledged.


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Re: [Frameworks] subscription

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks Adam.

Gene & Jane Youngblood
(505) 395-6370 home

On May 7, 2020 at 7:32:59 PM, Adam Hyman (a...@lafilmforum.org) wrote:

Look closely to see what list serve it is coming from.

From: FrameWorks  on behalf of Gene 
Youngblood 
Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 4:19 PM
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Subject: [Frameworks] subscription

Almost every day for weeks I’ve been getting notifications that my subscription 
to Frameworks has been cancelled. I could renew by responding to the 
notification. But now that doesn’t work. Nothing in my inbox from Frameworks 
today. Can this be fixed?



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[Frameworks] subscription

[Gene Youngblood]

Almost every day for weeks I’ve been getting notifications that my subscription 
to Frameworks has been cancelled. I could renew by responding to the 
notification. But now that doesn’t work. Nothing in my inbox from Frameworks 
today. Can this be fixed?



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[Frameworks] Quote of the Day

[Gene Youngblood]

“Humanity today is like a waking dreamer, caught between the fantasies of sleep 
and the chaos of the real world. The mind seeks but cannot find the precise 
place and hour. We have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age 
emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. We thrash about. We 
are terribly confused by the mere fact of our existence, and a danger to 
ourselves and to the rest of life.” 
  ~ Edward O. Wilson




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[Frameworks] Thanks

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks, everyone, especially for reminding us about Senses of Cinema. We 
respect them. We’ll let you know.
Gene & Jane 
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[Frameworks] film magazine

[Gene Youngblood]

We want to publish the first article from our Kuchar study. It would have been 
in Film Comment, but they’re down, possibly never to return. Can anyone 
recommend a publication of similar high visibility that is still alive? It’s a 
lengthy piece, heavily illustrated. Maybe there’s a digital-only outlet we’re 
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Re: [Frameworks] white screen

[Gene Youngblood]

That’s it! Thanks.


On April 29, 2020 at 2:55:22 PM, Stephen Broomer (stephen.broo...@gmail.com) 
wrote:

Hi Gene & Jane,

I've never seen it but it sounds like a description I once read of Cat Film for 
Katy and Cynthia by Standish Lawder. Does that sound right? Made for a cat film 
festival in NYC...

Stephen




On Wed., Apr. 29, 2020, 4:49 p.m. Gene Youngblood,  wrote:
I’m drawing a blank on the title and maker of a film that begins all white and, 
after minutes of dark streaks, is revealed to be a cat drinking milk, shot from 
under the bowl.

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[Frameworks] white screen

[Gene Youngblood]

I’m drawing a blank on the title and maker of a film that begins all white and, 
after minutes of dark streaks, is revealed to be a cat drinking milk, shot from 
under the bowl.

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[Frameworks] Trump as our objective correlative 100 years ago

[Gene Youngblood]

“As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and 
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the 
plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White 
House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron.”  
  ~ H.L. Mencken, Baltimore Sun, July 26, 1920 


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[Frameworks] kuchar

[Gene Youngblood]

Friends, some of you know my wife Jane and I have been working on a study of 
George Kuchar’s video diaries for more than ten years. We want to complete it 
by the end of this year, but we keep discovering new things in the seemingly 
bottomless depths of the 232 works. We seek the help of Frameworks Hive Mind in 
explicating the most recent one. It has to do with signifiers of memory. 

Summon this: the protagonist’s head is in profile at the right edge of the 
frame. We see only the front half of his or her head, leaving maximum space in 
the rest of the frame for what he or she is remembering. 

That’s the ideal image we need to find. Others would suffice. The position of 
the head could be flipped from right edge to left, or even to the top, looking 
down on memory. Or the protagonist could be centered in the frame, addressing 
the camera, while memory plays out around her.

In fact, anything remotely like these examples could be useful, whether from 
conventional narratives or experimental works. If experimental, we’ll probably 
need someone to supply the image. We need at least three examples, preferably 
more, to convincingly make our point. 

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[Frameworks] book club

[Gene Youngblood]

Frameworkers, some of this is redundant, but not all:

The Gray Area Foundation for the Arts in San Francisco is hosting an online 
book club reading of the 50th Anniversary Edition of Expanded Cinema, published 
in March by Fordham University Press.

Readings began Sunday, April 5, and will continue every Sunday through May 17. 
We’re using the book as a springboard to topics that range far beyond its pages.

 Sign up for the book club: 
https://grayarea.org/event/expanded-cinema-book-club-with-gene-youngblood/ 

The readings archive is here: 
https://grayarea.org/event/expanded-cinema-book-club-with-gene-youngblood/  
Immediately below it on the same page is my keynote lecture at the 2016 Gray 
Area Festival. Lots of slides, some animated.

On March 19, Rhizome in NYC hosted an online book launch celebration that 
included clips from Bryan Konefsky's documentary about me and a conversation 
with Rhizome’s director Michael Connor. It’s on Fordham’s home page: 
https://www.fordhampress.com/

 About Gray Area: https://grayarea.org/about/mission/  

 Purchase Expanded Cinema: 
https://www.fordhampress.com/9780823287413/expanded-cinema/  

 Thanks, and take care…    


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Re: [Frameworks] Bruce Baillie

[Gene Youngblood]

Our loss of this great poetic soul is indeed sad, as is the fate that awaited 
him and so many other artists who lived outside of a cruel culture.


On April 10, 2020 at 2:42:00 PM, Stephen Anker (san...@calarts.edu) wrote:

Thanks for sharing this deeply sad news.
A very great loss, as so many others have been in recent years.


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 8:23 AM Dominic Angerame  
wrote:
Bruce Baillie passed away today. He never made it to the hospice care. The 
generous funds collected will be use to pay for the funeral expenses.

Dominic
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Re: [Frameworks] book club

[Gene Youngblood]

No, but I wrote a new Introduction that’s pretty good. A lot of these 
“readings” will be about it.

Gene & Jane Youngblood
(505) 395-6370 home

On April 3, 2020 at 11:10:02 AM, Robert Harris (lagonab...@gmail.com) wrote:

Gene,

I only have a first edition of the original publishing. Have segments been 
re-written?

R.Harris

On Apr 3, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

Frameworkers,
The Gray Area Foundation in San Francisco is hosting a seven-week online "book 
club" reading of the 50th Anniversary Edition of Expanded cinema. It begins 
this Sunday, April 5, and continues one hour a week for the followng six weeks. 
We’ll use the chapters as springboards to topics beyond its pages. Something to 
do while we’re sequestered. They’re using Zoom. Sign up here:  
grayarea.org/event/expanded-cinema-book-club-with-gene-youngblood/

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[Frameworks] book club

[Gene Youngblood]

Frameworkers,
The Gray Area Foundation in San Francisco is hosting a seven-week online "book 
club" reading of the 50th Anniversary Edition of Expanded cinema. It begins 
this Sunday, April 5, and continues one hour a week for the followng six weeks. 
We’ll use the chapters as springboards to topics beyond its pages. Something to 
do while we’re sequestered. They’re using Zoom. Sign up here:  
grayarea.org/event/expanded-cinema-book-club-with-gene-youngblood/

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Re: [Frameworks] optical/mechanical v. digital

[Gene Youngblood]

Mark and Scott, Thanks to both of you. It is indeed the technique I also find 
in Kuchar. 


On March 29, 2020 at 2:14:05 PM, Scott Dorsey (klu...@panix.com) wrote:

I think they are talking about using a digital simulation of the large shutter  
angle technique.  
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Re: [Frameworks] optical/mechanical v. digital

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks for this, Mark. I had forgotten what a beautiful film Water and Power 
is. The sequence you cite may very well be what I’m calling slow shutter. I’ll 
compare it to the one I reference in my study of George Kuchar’s video diaries. 
If they’re the same, you have helped me make an important point. I’ll let you 
know.


On March 29, 2020 at 12:06:09 PM, Mark Toscano (mrkt...@gmail.com) wrote:

Hey Gene,

Do you mean just using a slower shutter speed so you get a streaking effect?  
If so, this is a really old technique in the analog world.  Are you thinking 
like the sequence starting at 2:38 here from Pat O'Neill's Water and Power?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmaF71XnLM ?  Or something else?

Mark


On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 8:01 AM Gene Youngblood  wrote:
This seems to be a pretty thorough account of experimental optical printing: 
https://fms.wustl.edu/files/fms/imce/powers-a_diy_come_on_cinema_journal.pdf 

Can anyone recommend an article (interview, book?) that compares 
optical/mechanical “effects” with digital ones? Surely there must be numerous 
comparisons in both commercial/technical publications and art-oriented ones. 

Digital radically enlarges the field of possibility, so I imagine most 
comparisons would emphasize that. I’m especially interested in the digital 
effect called “slow shutter.” Is there a physical equivalent? If so, can anyone 
refer me to an artist who uses it? Scott?

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This seems to be a pretty thorough account of experimental optical printing: 
https://fms.wustl.edu/files/fms/imce/powers-a_diy_come_on_cinema_journal.pdf 

Can anyone recommend an article (interview, book?) that compares 
optical/mechanical “effects” with digital ones? Surely there must be numerous 
comparisons in both commercial/technical publications and art-oriented ones. 

Digital radically enlarges the field of possibility, so I imagine most 
comparisons would emphasize that. I’m especially interested in the digital 
effect called “slow shutter.” Is there a physical equivalent? If so, can anyone 
refer me to an artist who uses it? Scott?

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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

[Gene Youngblood]

OK. Your arguments are valid.

On March 28, 2020 at 6:15:01 PM, Scott MacDonald (smacd...@hamilton.edu) wrote:

Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his way of 
dealing with people, as Fred says.

He is "successful" because he is great at drawing all attention to himself. He 
doesn't need our help.

Scott
Central NY

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Fred Camper  wrote:

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
other places for that.

Fred Camper
Chicago
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[Frameworks] Trump Virus

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[Frameworks] EC-50 Intro

[Gene Youngblood]

Frameworkers,
The new Introduction I wrote for the 50th Anniversary Edition of Expanded 
Cinema is here on Google Books. Please feel free to distribute it:

https://books.google.com/books?id=drHUDwAAQBAJ&dq=editions%3AHY_Rc8KUHnEC&q=introduction#v=snippet&q=introduction&f=false
 

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Re: [Frameworks] Affect

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks for this, Alistair. I’m trying to determine if “affect” as you explain 
it will be useful in my political-economic critique of mass communication, 
“Secession From the Broadcast.” It’s the summation of my lifelong commitment to 
media-based radical political theory, and I want to reach beyond the standard 
conceptual tools of “media studies,” which I taught for 40 years.

On February 16, 2020 at 3:50:36 AM, Alistair Stray (alistair.st...@gmail.com) 
wrote:
I think its increasing use, and framed definition, comes from it's use by 
Deleuze & Guattari ,..  Simon O'sullivans paper is the best example I can think 
of  https://simonosullivan.net/articles/aesthetics-of-affect.pdf But the 
original texts, Logic of Sensation,  Cinema 1 & 2 and Mille Plateau are better 
sources. Its a major concept in their philosophy, and isn't easy to explain as 
the concepts all weave within each other but the WIki page on their use of the 
word has a nice precis..

The terms "affect" and "affection" came to prominence in Gilles Deleuze and 
Félix Guattari's A Thousand Plateaus, the second volume of Capitalism and 
Schizophrenia. In his notes on the terminology employed, the translator Brian 
Massumi gives the following definitions of the terms as used in the volume:

AFFECT/AFFECTION. Neither word denotes a personal feeling (sentiment in Deleuze 
and Guattari). L'affect (Spinoza's affectus) is an ability to affect and be 
affected. It is a prepersonal intensity corresponding to the passage from one 
experiential state of the body to another and implying an augmentation or 
diminution in that body's capacity to act. L'affection (Spinoza's affectio) is 
each such state considered as an encounter between the affected body and a 
second, affecting, body (with body taken in its broadest possible sense to 
include "mental" or ideal bodies).[10]
Affects, according to Deleuze, are not simple affections, as they are 
independent from their subject. Artists create affects and percepts, "blocks of 
space-time", whereas science works with functions, according to Deleuze, and 
philosophy creates concepts.

- Stray


On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 3:07 AM Fred Camper  wrote:
I'd bve interested if someone up on the latest in academicese weighs in with 
something different, but to me this looks like a standard use of the word 
"affect" as a noun. Here is what I take the be the relevant definition from the 
OED:

"the outward display of emotion or mood, as manifested by facial expression, 
posture, gestures, tone of voice, etc."

Fred Camper
Chicago

On 2/15/2020 8:37 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
Academic Frameworkers: I like to keep abreast of trends in academic language, 
and I've noticed an increased use of the word “affect” in scholarly papers. It 
has become fashionable, but the spin being put on it isn’t clear to me. Could 
someone please tell me what “affect” means here for example: "gestures of 
affect and intervention.” It seems different from something like “that doesn’t 
affect me.” Respond off list if you wish ato...@comcast.net. Thanks.




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[Frameworks] Affect

[Gene Youngblood]

Academic Frameworkers: I like to keep abreast of trends in academic language, 
and I've noticed an increased use of the word “affect” in scholarly papers. It 
has become fashionable, but the spin being put on it isn’t clear to me. Could 
someone please tell me what “affect” means here for example: "gestures of 
affect and intervention.” It seems different from something like “that doesn’t 
affect me.” Respond off list if you wish ato...@comcast.net. Thanks.



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[Frameworks] EC-50

[Gene Youngblood]

Friends, here’s the flyer for Expanded Cinema 50th 
https://www.fordhampress.com/9780823287413/expanded-cinema/ Please forward it 
to teachers who might want to assign the book in film history classes. Here’s 
another link to the 30-minute video in case Fordham removes it from their home 
page: https://vimeo.com/382686923 Thanks, everyone, for your support.


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Re: [Frameworks] Woody Vasulka R.I.P.

[Gene Youngblood]

There is a memorial for Woody this Sunday (19th) in Santa Fe. People are coming 
from all over the country. A new documentary about Woody and Steina will be 
premiered. All 200 reserved seats are sold out. It will be a joyous celebration 
of this extraordinary human being who gave us all so much in so many ways. My 
dear friend for 45 years.

Gene & Jane Youngblood
(505) 395-6370 home

On January 13, 2020 at 11:16:54 AM, Adam Hyman (a...@lafilmforum.org) wrote:

Hi all,
I didn’t see that anyone had mentioned this yet, but Woody Vasulka passed away 
just before Christmas.  One more major loss in 2019.  My deepest condolences to 
Steina and their family and friends.
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/woody-vasulka-dead-1202673647/

Some references to them and their work from an old thread below.

Best regards,

Adam

From: FrameWorks  on behalf of 
lagonaboba 
Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:12 PM
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

Matthew,

The Vasulkas are a vast and worthy subject unto themselves, each individually 
and the two as collaborators.
The Kitchen is another story, the origins of which are inseparable from the 
narrative surrounding the Vasulkas.
The long story of the Kitchen is, no doubt like so many art politic stories, 
complex and conflicted.
To learn more about the early kitchen you must contact Dimitri Devyatkin   
http://www.devyatkin.org.
and Rhys Chatham   http://www.rhyschatham.net, in addition to the Vasulkas.
You should also read about Shridhar Bapat.   
http://www.bidoun.org/magazine/27-diaspora/aleph-null-by-alexander-keefe/

Bob Harris

On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Maat Galindo  wrote:

I appreciate the links everyone, I will dive into their site !

Mathew Galindo

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:
It’s all here http://www.vasulka.org/index.html . Go to “Site Map,” then 
“Kitchen.”

On Mar 31, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Elizabeth McMahon  wrote:

I'd start with this. It is the definition of a tome. 
http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Heads-Practice-Pioneers-1973--1990/dp/0262720507/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427818203&sr=8-1&keywords=buffalo+media+vasulka

Elizabeth McMahon

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Maat Galindo  wrote:
Hi all,

I am conducting a research paper on  the history of The Kitchen, the role of 
the Vasulkas and their contributions to experimental media. 

Does anyone have any readings on these subjects that they can link me to?

Thanks,

Mathew Galindo
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[Frameworks] Vanderbeek

[Gene Youngblood]

Does anyone know how I can reach Ruth Abraham (if that’s still her name) who 
was Stan Vanderbeek’s partner in the later years of his life?

Gene Youngblood

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Re: [Frameworks] Peter Mays R.I.P.

[Gene Youngblood]

Poignant news. In my memoir-in-progress, I remember Peter rehearsing with 
Single Wing at Sam Francis’ studio On Ashland Street in Ocean Park, using his 
hands as projection masks. And being on the mezzanine with him for Single 
Wing's spectacular shows for Pinnacle concerts at Shrine Exposition Hall. We 
hung out at Pinnacle after-parties at the "White House" where John Van 
Hammersveld and other Pinnacle people lived, and I visited Peter occasionally 
in the Fox Venice projection booth. This tall, lanky, dark-haired, likable guy 
wasn’t as  talkative as some other members of Single Wing, but I beleive his 
quiet dedication to that art form anchored them. I interviewed Peter for my 
1968 article about Single Wing in the Los Angeles Free Press, with a 
double-page color layout of their imagery.

Gene & Jane Youngblood
(505) 395-6370 home

On March 4, 2019 at 7:02:00 PM, Adam Hyman (a...@lafilmforum.org) wrote:

Greetings.  Los Angeles based filmmaker, painter, projectionist, and filmgoer 
Peter Mays passed away last night.  Peter was one of the longest members of the 
experimental film community in LA, going back to when he started a film society 
in the UCLA Art Department in 1962 to screen underground films that he had read 
about.  He made multiple film & video works over the years, was a founding 
member of the  of the Single Wing Turquoise Bird Light Show and the one 
continuing member in all of its iterations, and also served as projectionist at 
the Fox Venice and at CAA to make ends meet.  In later years, he was often 
painting at home in Santa Monica.

Filmforum had a screening with him in 2010, and showed his films at different 
time through the years, and as part of Alternative Projections.  His most 
well-known work, “Death of the Gorilla” is really wonderful, and was also 
featured on the cover of the book Art Cinema, by Paul Young, for Taschen Press. 
 We’ll be doing two screenings this month honoring him, shows that were already 
being planned, and were hoping that he might have been in condition to attend.  
Although that didn’t happen, I hope that you all will be able to come to at 
least one, and that those of you who knew him might say a few words.  Here’s 
more on him at Alternative Projections, and an oral history.
https://www.alternativeprojections.com/people/peter-mays/
https://www.alternativeprojections.com/oral-histories/peter-mays/

And his Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/petermays22
Two of his films have been restored by Mark Toscano at the Academy Film 
Archive, Death of the Gorilla and The Star-Curtain Tantra.  Those will be part 
of the first of two screenings we will have at Filmforum honoring Peter Mays, 
on March 17 and 31, 2019.

We’ll miss him.

Very truly yours,

Adam

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Re: [Frameworks] Expanded cinema and experimental music

[Gene Youngblood]

Yes, it was Stan Vanderbeek. He also coined, in 1965, the term “Culture 
Intercom” — planetarium-like domes with multiple projections of live satellite 
feeds from around the world. His dome in upstate New York was finished in 1967 
just after Sputnik was launched, but of course had to simulate video feeds with 
16mm.


On February 21, 2019 at 7:36:16 PM, C Keefer (keef...@gmail.com) wrote:

There's some names here, from the Tate Expanded Cinema Conference:
http://www.studycollection.co.uk/expanded/index.html

More on this conference with some video documentation of talks:
http://www.rewind.ac.uk/expanded/Narrative/Tate.html

Finally, of course the term "Expanded Cinema" was first coined by an American!

best regards,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
www.centerforvisualmusic.org

cvmaccess (at) gmail.com




 

On 20 Feb 2019, at 10:18, Esperanza Collado  wrote:

Dear all,

A colleague is considering organising a seminar on the subject of expanded 
cinema and experimental music. He is trying to find academics, scholars, 
writers and experts in the critical/historical field rather than artists to 
deliver lectures or talks as part of this seminar. Could you please recommend 
relevant names expert in this field who are not American (or are not based in 
America) please?

I'm thinking of Steven Ball and (even though it may not be exactly their field 
of research) François Bovier/Adeena Mey, but who else is there beyond these? 
And if any of you think could fit here please let me know.


Thank you.

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From: Esperanza Collado 
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:38:28 +0100
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Expanded cinema and experimental music
Absolutely, they aren't exclusive and I totally identify with this, but I'm 
trying to communicate the preferences of the organiser as best as I can. 

Indeed, Nicky, who lives in Brussels (and this is the city where the seminar 
would take place) is in the short list of candidates I proposed. Thanks, Rob, 
will pass on your name too! Of course, your work is utterly appropriate. 

Thank you too, Steven!

Best wishes,

 
 
 
 

 

 
 
  

 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[Gene Youngblood]

Derek Jarman’s “Blue."


On November 22, 2018 at 10:12:16 AM, Dave Tetzlaff (djte...@gmail.com) wrote:

The End, Christopher Maclaine

Lots of ‘dark’ narration over black leader.
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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies

[Gene Youngblood]

Alexander Sokurov’s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and Moscow 
Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev’s apartment).            


On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss (bl...@sarahblissart.com) wrote:

Greetings Frameworkers,

I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with 
love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a 
salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic examples 
of elegies do you know?

The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry, it 
is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject’s death but ends in 
consolation."

Thanks, 

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com


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[Frameworks] Goodbye To Language

[Gene Youngblood]

Maybe someone can educate me about this. I just got around to purchasing 
"Goodbye to Language," only to discover you can’t watch it with glasses. You 
need both a 3D Blu-ray player and a 3D TV. I’m at a loss to explain this. Why 
on earth would they restrict their market to such a tiny niche of upscale 
consumers who would probably find the film incomprehensible to begin with? To 
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Re: [Frameworks] Entertaining the film

[Gene Youngblood]

Does Woody Allen’s The Purple Rose of Cairo qualify in some way? I haven’t 
seen it for more than a decade. 

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(505) 395-6370 home

On July 21, 2018 at 11:00:55 AM, Stephen Anker (san...@calarts.edu) wrote:

Ladislas Starevich - The Cameraman's Revenge, 1912

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:22 AM Nicole Baker  wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! 

It seems there are fewer than I expected. I was considering this something of a 
film trope. Would you guys agree?

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 9:04 AM Lara Hannawi  wrote:
a fun odd one where the subject is trying to depart from the film, within the 
film, you can say she's breaking down the 4th wall, the theatre of film, so in 
that sense she's doing the opposite of what you're looking for. its ayneh, or 
the mirror, by panahi.

-- Original message--
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Date: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:01
To: Experimental Film Discussion List;
Cc:
Subject:Re: [Frameworks] Entertaining the film

Buster Keaton's SHERLOCK JR. is the classic example. 

Also, HELLZAPOPPIN' with Ole Olson and Chic Johnson. 

Chuck Jones' great cartoon DUCK AMUCK is a variant on this. 


On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:48 PM, Nicole Baker  wrote:


Hey frameworkers!

I'm trying to gather together a list of films where a person or persons enter 
into the film world/narrative.
I know I've seen it, but can't think of any examples! Besides that Take on Me 
music video (which is close but no cigar).
Examples from TV would work too.

Thanks everyone!
Nicole
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[Frameworks] image enhancement in FCP?

[Gene Youngblood]

Colleagues,
Jane and I continue our Kuchar project, and we’re wondering if there are 
features of FCP, or plugins for it, that enable Photoshop-like enhancements to 
sharpen older, low-res tapes. Jane is a good editor, as those who’ve seen the 
show know, but on the other hand we’re not professionals so we don’t keep up on 
the latest developments. Advice will be much appreciated. 




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Re: [Frameworks] Voice over

[Gene Youngblood]

Hollis Frampton, Nostalgia

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On April 8, 2018 at 12:47:54 PM, Surbhi Goel (surbh...@gmail.com) wrote:

Encounters at the End of the World (Werner Herzog, 2007)

not exactly voice over in traditional sense but, Tarkovsky's father reciting 
his poetry in Zerkalo makes for a haunting soulful voice-over


best regards, 
Surbhi

On 8 April 2018 at 22:53, Dennis Doros  wrote:
Margot Benacerraf's ARAYA.

Luc Besson's ATLANTIS

Leo Hurwitz NATIVE LAND (can't remember if it's 100% voice-over). STRANGE 
VICTORY is about 90% voice-over.


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On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Aman Wadhan  wrote:
Patrick Keiller ('London', 'Robinson in Space', 'Robinson in Ruins').

And not to forget some of the most haunting voice-over performances ever -- the 
films of Marguerite Duras ('Agatha et les lectures illimitées', 'India Song').


On Sunday, April 8, 2018, T. Siddle  wrote:
Blue, by Derek Jarman
The Black Tower, by John Smith 
Black Swans at Night, by Fiona Trigg


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:15 AM lagonaboba  wrote:
Universal Hotel,  by Peter Thompson
Routine Pleasures, by Jean Pierre Gorin (almost all voiceover)
Jollies, by Sadie Benning
Vanalyne Green’s work (Spy in the House that Ruth Built
Las Hurdes, by Bunuel



On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Shashwati Talukdar  wrote:

Bill Brown

regards,

Shashwati Talukdar
夏雪莉
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http://dontbeatmesir.comhttp://wallstories.fournineandahalf.com/http://fournineandahalf.com

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:59 PM, Anthony Yanick  wrote:
Chris Marker, Wim Wenders, https://vimeo.com/108736758...

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Mariah Garnett  
wrote:
Hi!
Does anyone have recommendations of films that are all voice over that are 
particularly great?
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Re: [Frameworks] Voice over

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Chris Marker, especially Sans Soliel 

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On April 8, 2018 at 10:50:23 AM, Aman Wadhan (amanwad...@gmail.com) wrote:

Patrick Keiller ('London', 'Robinson in Space', 'Robinson in Ruins').

And not to forget some of the most haunting voice-over performances ever -- the 
films of Marguerite Duras ('Agatha et les lectures illimitées', 'India Song').

On Sunday, April 8, 2018, T. Siddle  wrote:
Blue, by Derek Jarman
The Black Tower, by John Smith 
Black Swans at Night, by Fiona Trigg


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:15 AM lagonaboba  wrote:
Universal Hotel,  by Peter Thompson
Routine Pleasures, by Jean Pierre Gorin (almost all voiceover)
Jollies, by Sadie Benning
Vanalyne Green’s work (Spy in the House that Ruth Built
Las Hurdes, by Bunuel



On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Shashwati Talukdar  wrote:

Bill Brown

regards,

Shashwati Talukdar
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On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:59 PM, Anthony Yanick  wrote:
Chris Marker, Wim Wenders, https://vimeo.com/108736758...

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Mariah Garnett  
wrote:
Hi!
Does anyone have recommendations of films that are all voice over that are 
particularly great?
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Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 94, Issue 20

[Gene Youngblood]

Gregory Markopolous, “Galaxie."


On March 27, 2018 at 3:04:18 AM, Lindsay McIntyre (email.li...@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi Katherine,

I don't usually volunteer my own work but almost all my films are portraits of 
different forms. I did a thesis on portraiture. None of these are nearly as 
well-known as the examples you've been given already, but in case you are 
interested:

There are portraits of place:

where she stood in the first place.
(2012)
https://vimeo.com/24993887

Room 11a (2017)
https://vimeo.com/223999198

A Northern Portrait (28 min projection performance 2011-2017)
https://vimeo.com/58609298

Bernard gaspe (2013)
https://vimeo.com/58518445
Password: filmfilm 

Portrait of an object:

Barge Dirge (2010)
https://vimeo.com/41404424

Portraits of non-human animals:
 
a b movie (2005)
https://vimeo.com/24597214

Stall (2004?)
https://vimeo.com/24585195

And some portraits of people:

Trash Heaven (2015)
https://vimeo.com/133943608

All-around Junior male (2013)
https://vimeo.com/45329128

Ada (2010)
https://vimeo.com/41404424
Password: filmfilm 

And a few others.

Best,

Lindsay McIntyre

Website: tinymovingpictures.com


On Mar 26, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Myron Ort  wrote:


My film “Love Must Love” is essential a portrait. As is the end of my film “Eye 
Lands” which contains a portrait of Meher Baba.

http://zeno-okeanos.com/films/60s-70s/dvd-vol-2






Many of my early 8mm films are portraits:

http://zeno-okeanos.com/films/60s-70s/dvd-vol-5




Also my Film “Parkman” is a portrait:

Scroll down to the last film in this collection:

http://zeno-okeanos.com/films/60s-70s/dvd-vol-6










On Mar 26, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Edo  wrote:

Markopoulos's "Galaxie" is a series of portraits, as is Joe Gibbons's
"Presences". Incandescent works both!



On 3/26/18 7:59 PM, jimmyschaus1 . wrote:
Jem Cohen "Ann Truitt, Working"

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:33 PM, MARILYN BRAKHAGE mailto:v...@shaw.ca>> wrote:

   Stan Brakhage's "Fifteen Song Traits" is "a series of individual
   portraits ... all interrelated" (about 29 minutes); other short
   Brakhage portraits include "Two: Creeley/McClure," "Hymn to Her,"
   "Jane," "Worm and Web Love" -- and for a longer one (54 minutes),
   "The Governor" (Governor Lamm of Colorado). Also, "Sirius
   Remembered" (mentioned below) is a reflection on the decaying corpse
   of the family dog. But for some live animal portraits you might want
   to look at "The Domain of the Moment."

   Marilyn Brakhage



   
   *From: *"robert harris" mailto:lagonab...@gmail.com>>
   *To: *"Experimental Film Discussion List"
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   oh, to name but a few:

   /*Mr. Hayashi,*/ by Bruce Baillie

   Jonas Mekas has many portraits embedded within his longer works

   Shigeko Kubota has portraits (see EAI) of George Maciunas,George
   Maciunas With Two Eyes 1972, George Maciunas With One Eye 1976
   
;
 her
   own father (/*My Father*/); and of Nam June Paik.

   Brakhage’s /Sirius Remembered/ 

   */The Flower Thief /* might be called a portrait




   On Mar 26, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Katherine Bauer
   mailto:kittylitter...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   HI Frameworkers
   I was wondering if anyone could give some titles of films that
   are "portrait films"
   I am teaching at Hofstra U, and I am feeling stumped after
   assigning the kids to make a portrait film, on examples of what
   to show them.
   Just juggling so much, thought I would reach out for some help
   on at least on of my 100s of to dos!
   Anything, narrative, experimental, avant-gaurd, structuralist,
   montage...
   just that tells the story of a person.
   preferably SHORT FILMS! But CAN also be features too.
   Thanks.
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Re: [Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in experimental films

[Gene Youngblood]

Warhol and Michael Snow

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On March 8, 2018 at 4:55:15 PM, jimmyschaus1 . (jimmysch...@gmail.com) wrote:

Singling out long takes in a forum dedicated to experimental film is shooting 
fish in a barrel!  So I'll dive in with the more idiosyncratic part of the 
inquiry, photography/still images.  Two wonderful things I've seen recently 
entirely comprised of still photographic images "moving", and directly engage a 
sense of bemusement in finding the line between stasis and motion, are Abbas 
Kiarostami's 24 Frames and Jon Jost's Mountains as Mountains, which you can 
watch here.  

shamelessly, my video Rocking Horses  (password=rocking, clever I know)

stasis classics: Chris Marker's La Jetee and Raul Ruiz's Dogs Dialog.  

Apitchatpong Weerasathakul is a master of long takes, and in Uncle Boonme... 
you get two-for-one, as, if I recall, there's a lovely sequence of still 
photographs of Thai soldiers around the halfway mark. 

Pedro Costa's films are filled with long takes, and the opening of Horse Money 
is an incredible procession of Jacob Riis depression-era photos.  

Tsai Ming-Liang, and if you're really looking for parts that emphasize 
stillness and the weight of time, there's a 20 minute uninterrupted shot 
towards the end of Stray Dogs that's really something else.  


And yeah, James Benning, Sharon Lockhart, and some Ben Russell on the more 
experimental/non-narrative side of things.  



On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
Virtually every James Benning film.

From: FrameWorks  on behalf of 
Sebastian Wiedemann 
Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 12:48 PM
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Subject: [Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in experimental 
films


Dear Frameworkers,
I'm beginning a research about the presence of long takes and still 
images/photography as expressive resources in the production of experimental 
films.
If anyone has in mind films that work with these procedures and can share with 
me some titles, I will appreciate a lot. 
Best, 
Sebastian 

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Re: [Frameworks] old LA movie theater

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That’s it, Christian! Thanks. Now I have to find Tommy Cooper if he’s still 
alive.



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On February 10, 2018 at 12:15:58 PM, Christian Bruno (honeyhou...@hotmail.com) 
wrote:

Hello Gene

I haven't been in LA that long, but maybe it was the Vagabond?
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1170
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-11-28/entertainment/ca-9291_1_vagabond-theatre

Up until recently, it was called the Hayworth as a live theatre, now it's a 
comedy club. But in the 1970s, Tommy Cooper ran a rep/revival program as the 
Vagabond.

It's a guess, but could it be?

best
Christian


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Youngblood 
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Subject: [Frameworks] old LA movie theater
 
Older Frameworkers in Los Angeles, does anyone remember the name of a small 
movie theater on Wilshire Boulevard near downtown that, in the 1960s, had a 
mural of the Odessa Steps sequence from Potemkin?


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[Frameworks] old LA movie theater

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Older Frameworkers in Los Angeles, does anyone remember the name of a small 
movie theater on Wilshire Boulevard near downtown that, in the 1960s, had a 
mural of the Odessa Steps sequence from Potemkin?


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[Frameworks] John Stehura

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Does anyone have contacts for John, or know where he lives?

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Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

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It wasn’t expressionist, but McClaren’s “Begone Dull Care” (1949), set to Oscar 
Peterson jazz, is a classic of the visual music genre, and deservedly so. 
Interesting for someone who, as you point out, made mostly figure-based work.


On December 1, 2017 at 1:22:03 PM, Myron Ort (z...@sonic.net) wrote:

Norman McLaren  to my knowledge made mostly very “figure” based  imagery (often 
cute). Len Lye  was more to my liking, however he still was making figurative 
based gestures dancing around to music. I was narrowing my question down to 
(extended) “abstract expressionist” film painting, rather than the more general 
area of camerless filmmaking overall. Man Ray also pioneered some techniques in 
this realm but I was referring more to “expressionist” style film painting that 
would later become  something Stan Brakhage explored extensively, however never 
without asserting that there was a correlative metaphoric quasi “narrative" 
involved. Later he would call it “moving visual thinking”.




On Dec 1, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Kit Basquin  wrote:

Norman McLaren, who was from Scotland but worked for the Canadian Film Board 
most of his life.


-Original Message-
From: Myron Ort 
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
Sent: Fri, Dec 1, 2017 3:05 pm
Subject: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film prior 
to 1968?  (Hopefully with online viewing availability).


https://vimeo.com/220986135


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[Frameworks] Seeking Part Two

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To clarify, I’m not necessarily looking for an “accented" voice, I’m just 
saying it’s a possibility. Tone and inflection are most important, and age is a 
factor too. She shouldn’t sound youthful. Thanks. 
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[Frameworks] Seeking

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While the female voice over topic is current, I thought I’d let everyone know 
I’m seeking distinctive female voices for a couple of projects. “Distinctive" 
can include an accent, and she must be skilled at, or have an aptitude for, 
reading scripts. Please contact me offline.

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Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over narration?

[Gene Youngblood]

Cecelia Condit and Vanalyne Green


On November 10, 2017 at 3:05:47 PM, mary billyou (mbill...@gmail.com) wrote:

my movie "The Wonder of It All"

and "ours be the tossing"

PS I love "Crowdog" by Vanessa Renwick and "Dirty Fingernails" by Sarah Kennedy 
and "Hair Piece" by Ayoka Chenzira. 

There's also a bunch by Martha Rosler: "A Budding Gourmet," "How Do We Know 
What Home Looks Like?," and one of the best: "Martha Rosler Reads Vogue"

MM Serra's "Enduring Ornament"

Some of Sabine Gruffat's recent work has her voice – "Speculation Nation"

Shelly Silver's work



On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Ann Deborah Levy  
wrote:
Hi Ben,

My 16mm films all used voiceover with women’s voices prominent.  The most 
ambitious, and definitely off the radar, is:
 
WATERSCAPE: ILLUSIONS, 52 minutes, an essay film that meditates on illusion and 
reality in both myth making and filmmaking in the context of shooting a film on 
a “wilderness” lake with swans.  The principal voices are all women:  the 
filmmaker whose shooting diary provides narration of events and thoughts, a 
scholar on swan symbolism, and three young girls trading fairy tales and a 
poem.  If you would like a link, please contact me off list.  


Other films with women in voiceover that come to mind, but in no way represent 
a comprehensive list are:

Marguerite Duras films:  especially INDIA SONG and her short film CESAREE with 
a woman’s voice describing the ruined city of Cesaree (Caesarea) over images of 
the Tuileries and Paris.


Some films preserved by the Women’s Film Preservation Fund of NYWIFT:

MAKE OUT, 1970, a narrative short showing a couple in a romantic moment with a 
woman’s voice expressing what she is feeling.  The film made by the Newsreel 
Collective was conceived by Geri Ashur, who co-directed, (with Peter 
Schlaifer), the filming of the actors. The voice-over script was created 
collectively by Ashur, Andrea Eagan, Marcia Salo Rizzi, Deborah Shaffer and a 
few other women, and was taken from thetranscript of their "conscious-raising 
group" discussions.

SISTERS!, 1973, Barbara Hammer, director, with the voices of Hammer and Kate 
Millet.  The film begins with a woman’s voice declaring: “I had a dream of 
women where men used to be: building, working, growing strong, building their 
bodies into strength for self-defense.” This film collage is a celebration of 
lesbians.

ALL WOMEN ARE EQUAL, Marguerite Paris.  This may be a stretch because it’s a 
documentary about a male to female transvestite, Paula, whose voice taken from 
an interview out of synch with filmed images of her in her apartment.


And one more addition: 
HAIR PIECE, A FILM FOR NAPPY-HEADED PEOPLE, 1985, Ayoka Chenzira, director, an 
animated film about Black women coping with expectations about their 
hairstyles.  (available through Women Make Movies)


ANN

Ann Deborah Levy
filmmaker: www.resonantimages.com
and
Co-Chair, Women’s Film Preservation Fund of NYWIFT:  
www.womensfilmpreservationfund.org


On Nov 2, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Ben Ogrodnik wrote:

Hi all,

I am requesting some film suggestions for a list of experimental,  
independent, and/or feminist-leaning films that contain a woman --  
or multiple women -- providing voice-over narration to the images.

The works can be from any era, in any format: documentary,  
animation, fiction, found-footage, anthropological, installation- 
based, etc.

Some well-known examples of this tradition would be: Laura Mulvey  
and Peter Wollen's Riddles of the Sphinx, 1977; Michelle Citron's  
Daughter Rite, 1978; or Su Friedrich's Sink or Swim, 1990.

Any examples of woman-voiced films that may be lesser known, or  
made outside EuroAmerican settings, would be greatly appreciated as  
well!

Thanks so much.

Sincerely,
Ben

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[Frameworks] Oona Nelson

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Does anyone have contacts for Oona?

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[Frameworks] Steve Anker

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If anyone has Steve Anker’s phone and/or email please contact me offlist. 
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Re: [Frameworks] Vegetable films?

[Gene Youngblood]

Pat O’Neill, Last Of The Persimmons


On September 14, 2017 at 5:00:28 AM, lagonaboba (lagonab...@gmail.com) wrote:

as we continue to answer the vegetable question with fruits,

Robert Nelson’s  Oh dem watermelons








On Sep 13, 2017, at 10:03 PM, Chuck Kleinhans  wrote:

Les Blank, Garlic is as good as ten mothers

of course many of his other films include harvesting and cooking and eating and 
celebrating food, muisc and dance (includes meat)

On gardening, tilling land

Marjorie Keller, The Answering Furrow, 1985 (27 min.): sound, color; 16 mm


If you include fruits:

There was a wacky pixillation film done in the 60s about a heard of banannas 
that ran around like lemmings, huriling themselves to death.  Can’t remember 
the maker or th title, but I think the title referred to the genus and speciies 
name of the common banana fruit.  Perhaps it is  now lost—the last few times I 
screened it in class it was pretty far gone and there seemed to be only one 
print.


And didn’t Larry Gottheim also make a film about a bowl of blueberries? Scott 
McD? help here?)

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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for scenes with bus shelter / bus stop

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Jim Jarmusch, Paterson
Martin Ritt, Hud
Matt Ross, Captain Fantastic

On July 19, 2017 at 12:03:57 PM, Jessica Arseneau (jessarsen...@gmail.com) 
wrote:

Thank you so much that's great. Some of them mentionned I knew of course, but 
some I didn't know and that's definitely helping for the research I'm starting.

Best,

Jessica

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Peter Bo Rappmund  
wrote:

The World is Hard - Kelsey Brain
Bully - Lee Hirsch
My Neighbor Totoro - Hayao Miyazaki

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Jessica Arseneau  
wrote:
Dear Frameworks people,

I'm looking for film scenes that happens in bus shelters/stops. If any scenes 
are coming up in your mind, please feel free to send the title of the film.

Thanks a lot and all the best,


Jessica Arseneau
Interdisciplinary artist
jessarseneau.github.io

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Re: [Frameworks] Christopher MacLaine

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Thanks Andy. I’ve passed these on.
G. 










On July 5, 2017 at 8:38:48 AM, Andy Ditzler (a...@andyditzler.com) wrote:

Gene, has your friend tried contacting Lawrence Jordan? I believe Jordan knew 
Maclaine and worked with him on The Man Who Invented Gold (but I could be 
wrong). J.J. Murphy and Fred Camper have done the most extensive writing I know 
on Maclaine; perhaps they have some leads. There's a transcription of a 
conversation with Brakhage about his time with Maclaine, published in Radical 
Light. 

Andy Ditzler
Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org


On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:
Frameworkers, a friend of mine is researching the literary life of Christopher 
MacLaine. He sent this yesterday: 

"You may know that [MacLaine] was also a poet and editor. (Jordan Belson was 
the art editor for the first issue of Contour Quarterly, the magazine that 
MacLaine and his wife Norma edited, which ran for four issues in the late 
forties.) I've been very interested in that side of his work, which has 
completely vanished from any public view or awareness, and I've been working 
for a few years on assembling the writings, and trying to learn more about the 
context. Have had a very hard time finding anyone still alive to talk to who 
knew him, or much on record about his life. Any suggestions you might have in 
that regard would be very welcome.

Any leads on this? Steve? Scott?

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[Frameworks] Christopher MacLaine

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Frameworkers, a friend of mine is researching the literary life of Christopher 
MacLaine. He sent this yesterday: 

"You may know that [MacLaine] was also a poet and editor. (Jordan Belson was 
the art editor for the first issue of Contour Quarterly, the magazine that 
MacLaine and his wife Norma edited, which ran for four issues in the late 
forties.) I've been very interested in that side of his work, which has 
completely vanished from any public view or awareness, and I've been working 
for a few years on assembling the writings, and trying to learn more about the 
context. Have had a very hard time finding anyone still alive to talk to who 
knew him, or much on record about his life. Any suggestions you might have in 
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[Frameworks] video playback mystery

[Gene Youngblood]

Friends, I have a file of video clips that I want to play and pause during a 
lecture. For convenience I prefer to store the file on my laptop’s internal 
hard drive rather than bringing an external drive, but the file stutters 
periodically when playing from the laptop  whereas it runs smoothly from an 
external drive. Can anyone advise why this might be so?

The file is Mpeg-4, 640 x 360 
It stutters on both QuickTime 10.4 and QuickTime 7.6.6. when played from 
internal SATA drive.
Codec is AAC, H.264
MacBook Pro, OS Sierra v. 10.12.4, with 8 GB RAM 
The external drive is 500 GB solid state WD MyPassport.

Many thanks.


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[Frameworks] e-textbooks for film

[Gene Youngblood]

For those of you who teach, are there film courses these days based only on 
e-books with links to motion clips that illustrate the text? This is for my 
book on George Kuchar’s video diaries. Reply offlist if you wish. Thanks. 
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Re: [Frameworks] 4K FCP

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks Jana and Jean-Pierre!


On March 28, 2017 at 10:56:24 AM, Jana Debus (i...@janadebus.com) wrote:

Gene, if you can get your hands on Premiere the workflow will be much smoother. 
In Premiere you don't have to render until export, and it does the render 
automatically before exporting. 
I would avoid FinalCut if possible and use either Premiere or Avid.  FinalCut 
is not Pro anymore.

Jana

Sent from +1 (415) 202 31 93


On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

Friends, I’m about to do an interview that will be shot in 4K. We intend to 
edit wth FCP X. Will there be any problem with that?

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[Frameworks] 4K FCP

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Friends, I’m about to do an interview that will be shot in 4K. We intend to 
edit wth FCP X. Will there be any problem with that?

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Re: [Frameworks] mental problems

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Thanks, Pip. It’s for rent on Amazon, so I’ll take a look. 

And THANKS TO EVERYONE for your responses to my query.


On March 22, 2017 at 9:31:16 PM, Pip Chodorov (framewo...@re-voir.com) wrote:

Gene,
Concerning acid trips, Gaspar Noé asked my advice  
when he was developing his film "Enter the Void."  
We are both huge fans of Kubrick's 2001 as well  
as of abstract psychedlic films such as by Jordan  
Belson and the Whitney brothers. He is also a  
neighbor in Paris.
He asked me what films he should watch to get  
ideas of how to represent a drug trip, and  
because he already saw all the films I suggested,  
his research had consisted in taking various  
quantities of interesting drugs.
I think he succeeded in representing the trip  
visually as abstract patterns filling the screen.  
The film is shown strictly in 1st person POV of  
the main character (we even stare into his eyes  
as he looks in the mirror, while his eyeblinks  
are represented as periodic black flickers), and  
the drug trip clouds that vision.
Incidentally there is a structural similarity  
with 2001 in his film, as the character spends  
the second half of the film in space-limbo, and  
the journey ends with a psychedelic trip through  
a uterus to end in an explosion and a fetus...
-Pip



At 10:41 -0600 22/03/17, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>Friends, I¹m seeking recommendations of feature  
>films with scenes that attempt to visualize  
>inner states of mind such as breakdowns  
>(Vertigo), nightmares (Spellbound), acid trips  
>(Easy Rider) or any other kind of hallucination  
>(Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn¹t  
>matter. Thanks.
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[Frameworks] mental problems

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Friends, I’m seeking recommendations of feature films with scenes that attempt 
to visualize inner states of mind such as breakdowns (Vertigo), nightmares 
(Spellbound), acid trips (Easy Rider) or any other kind of hallucination 
(Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn’t matter. Thanks.

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Re: [Frameworks] Eulogy Films

[Gene Youngblood]

if video is allowed, Bill Viola’s The Passing


On March 19, 2017 at 2:19:01 PM, john warren (johnwar...@alum.calarts.edu) 
wrote:

Hi Margaret, 

I'd like to mention my own film Elegy: https://vimeo.com/6780356

I don’t think anyone has yet mentioned Robert Todd, but several of his movies 
could fall under this heading, like his Passing trilogy.

peace, jw

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Lecturer, Department of Art / Cinema & Media Arts
Vanderbilt University
cell: 213.458.1650
http://johnwarrenfilms.com

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Margaret Rorison  
wrote:

Dear Film Friends, 

I am curious about film eulogies and would love to know more films that have 
been made to honor someone. For example, Nathaniel Dorsky's August and After

​I am looking for short films in particular. 

Poetic gestures of goodbye, final notes, odes...

thank you, 
Margaret Rorison 
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[Frameworks] Sudden spam

[Gene Youngblood]

Hi Pip,
All of a sudden my email program is treating Frameworks as spam because it 
identifies the individual user as the sender and  Frameworks as the subject. 
Have you made any changes that would account for this? (Maybe you should not 
reply to this but use your personal email address to respond).

Thanks,
Gene

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[Frameworks] computer graphics for Kuchar

[Gene Youngblood]

I’m seeking a CGI artist to create 3D animations of a book and DVD box set for 
a crowdfunding campaign to complete my project on George Kuchar’s video 
diaries, including finding a publisher. Here’s a six-minute explanation: 
https://vimeo.com/179663010 I can’t afford standard commercial fees, so 
hopefully someone out there would like to help for a modest sum, as as gesture 
of support. If the project is funded, more graphics work will be needed in the 
production of the DVDs. If you’re interested, or know someone who might be, 
please contact me off list. 
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Re: [Frameworks] "Husbands" and "Wives"

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Carolee Schneeman and James Tenney.


On February 10, 2017 at 4:34:45 PM, Els van Riel (m...@elsvanriel.be) wrote:

Anja Dornieden & Juan David Gonzalez Monroy


On 10 Feb 2017, at 22:18, Jonathan Walley  wrote:

Anthony McCall & Carolee Scheemann
Sandra Gibson & Luis Recoder
Jordan Belson & Jane Conger Belson Shimane
Wilhelm & Birgit Hein
Tony Conrad & Beverly Grant/Conrad
Ken & Flo Jacobs
Charles & Ray Eames



Dr. Jonathan Walley
Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Cinema
Denison University
wall...@denison.edu



On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:55 PM, John MacKay  wrote:

Vertov and Svilova!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Pip Chodorov  wrote:

Sorry I forgot
Alexander Alexeieff and Claire Parker
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Re: [Frameworks] "Husbands" and "Wives"

[Gene Youngblood]

Yervant Gianikian and Angela Ricci Lucchi
James Broughton and Joel Singer
Matthias Muller and Christoph Giradet (I don’t know if they’re a couple)

The number of couples making post-analog video is probably infinite, for 
obvious reasons (social, cultural, economic), but Steina and Woody Vasulka must 
surely count among the great pioneers of the electronic moving image. 

And I always thought “By Brakhage” should in many cases have been “By Brakhage 
and Wodening."


On February 10, 2017 at 4:34:45 PM, Els van Riel (m...@elsvanriel.be) wrote:

Anja Dornieden & Juan David Gonzalez Monroy


On 10 Feb 2017, at 22:18, Jonathan Walley  wrote:

Anthony McCall & Carolee Scheemann
Sandra Gibson & Luis Recoder
Jordan Belson & Jane Conger Belson Shimane
Wilhelm & Birgit Hein
Tony Conrad & Beverly Grant/Conrad
Ken & Flo Jacobs
Charles & Ray Eames



Dr. Jonathan Walley
Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Cinema
Denison University
wall...@denison.edu



On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:55 PM, John MacKay  wrote:

Vertov and Svilova!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Pip Chodorov  wrote:

Sorry I forgot
Alexander Alexeieff and Claire Parker
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Re: [Frameworks] Werner Nekes Travels

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One of my fondest memories is an afternoon and evening in 1982 that Woody 
Vasulka, Alphonse Schilling, Peter Weibel and I spent with Werner and Dore, 
getting a tour of his pre-, proto- and para-cinematic collection. Truly 
astonishing. The conversation that followed over dinner and into the wee hours 
was equally revelatory to me. I usually talk a lot, but I was silent almost all 
evening, soaking up every word spoken by this extraordinary group of people who 
occupied an alternate history from my own. I vaguely recall Werner mentioning 
an offer to purchase the archive for $1 million, but I’m probably way off on 
that. As some of you may know, Werner (or was it Dore?) designed posters for 
all of his films, which were works of art in themselves. He had just premiered 
“Uliisses,” and the signed poster for it is in my studio today. 


On January 24, 2017 at 2:05:42 PM, John Sundholm (john.sundh...@ims.su.se) 
wrote:

dear all,



sad news indeed. in 2011 i programmed nekes' landscape films that he made in 
sweden. i suppose that not many know that he had a summer house in sweden since 
the early 70s and that some of his best films were made up there. 'hynningen', 
for example. nekes returned to sweden every summer.



nekes was direct and knew what he wanted.



in the program of 2011 nekes wanted also to include 'falun' (1976), because he 
had only a vague memory of the film and wanted to take the opportunity to watch 
the 35 mm print in a proper cinema. after the film had ended, he stepped up and 
said that he remember now why he did not remember the film: it was a failure, 
an embarassing bad film that he asked us to forget that we had seen.



best,



john



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Werner Nekes and Dore O. visited Sarah Lawrence College when I was an student 
there in 1971. While of course I recall their Jum Jum, I was more taken by Dore 
O.’s Kaldalon, an exquisite “landscape” film, shot during their recent travels 
in Iceland. Both were still rapturously enthusiastic about Iceland. I’ve wanted 
to visit the Iceland of that film ever since. I think the closest (in luminance 
and spirit) I ever got was in the high Andes of central Ecuador. Both Nekes and 
Dore O. were sweet, gracious and giving individuals, most generous with their 
time with eager young filmmakers. To expand a bit this eulogistic thread, Nekes 
and Dore O. came to Sarah Lawrence thanks to Howard Guttenplan, who brought a 
number of prominent filmmakers, all of whom played significant roles in the 
education of the two film students interested in Avant-Garde work.

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Re: [Frameworks] portrayals of "the future" in animation and experimental film?

[Gene Youngblood]

Some uninvited comments and observations, for what they’re worth: 

1. Probably more than 99% of all “future” narratives are either unimaginative 
dystopias (the author has no vision of how things might be better) or they are 
uncritical New Age utopias. 

2. The phrase “unimaginative dystopia” is redundant because dystopia is 
unimaginative by definition.
 
3. Utopia is desire for transformation at the root, which means it’s radical 
desire (radix = root). No desire is naive. Only expectations are naive.

4. Never predict, always prescribe or keep quiet.

5. Dystopias are predictions, because people without vision don’t know what to 
prescribe; uncritical utopias are nothing but wish-pictures. 

6. The value of the desire called utopia is that it begs the question, how do 
we get from here to there? What would have to happen to bring about 
transformation at the root? That’s the vision few have and all of us need, 
especially now. 

7. I personally would never expose children to dystopias or wish-pictures 
without framing them in a radical political context that starts the kids 
thinking about how to get from here to there. If you don’t do that, it’s just 
entertainment. 

8. A prime example of unimaginative dystopia rendered with great artistic 
imagination is Chris Marker’s La Jetee. Never forget that he was an old left 
radical.


On January 12, 2017 at 2:54:57 PM, Stephen Anker (san...@calarts.edu) wrote:

Hi Stephanie,
Sheila Sofian (USC) has more than one animated film that deals with abuse, 
among other issues.
ssof...@cinema.usc.edu 
Suzan Pitt's Joyless Street deals with depression, although that might be too 
far afield.
Check with me again in case I think of others.
Best, Steve Anker


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Stephanie Hutin  
wrote:
Hello,

I am teaching an experimental animation class with a social justice focus this 
semester. We will be creating a touring program for children around the theme 
of "The Future". I plan to start our first day (Thursday 1/19) with some 
free-writing about their thoughts on the future, followed by some examples of 
what artists in experimental cinema and animation have made in their vision. 
Any films that you think may fit my lesson, would be much appreciated as well. 
Thank you!

Best,
Stephanie



Stephanie Hutin
Director of Production
Intercollegiate Media Studies
Mosbacher Gartrell Center for Media Experimentation and Activism
Pitzer College
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[Frameworks] Experimental film history

[Gene Youngblood]

This may be of interest regarding recent posts on the subject:
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=lang_en&id=zbXIDQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&ots=lC9dOGpWp5&sig=qgKgco1etUZYzJjpjSClSGvK3DU#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
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[Frameworks] Amsterdam video pioneers

[Gene Youngblood]

I’m looking for these people who worked with Jack Moore and The Videoheads in 
building the Milky Way nightclub in Amsterdam in the early 1970s:

Yos Schloffler
Cor Schlosser
Billy Canell
Kirke Wilson
Dan Foster

Any leads, including people who might have known them, will be greatly 
appreciated. 

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[Frameworks] scanned text

[Gene Youngblood]

Friends, I’m collecting into a book the 150 articles I wrote for the Los 
Angeles Free Press 1967-1970. They include the original articles that became 
the basis for Expanded Cinema. I also want to use the scans as B-roll for a 
documentary. That means zooming in and out, panning across the pages in 
closeup, and highlighting (isolating) lines of text for emphasis. How is that 
done? Is there software that enables it for inclusion in a Final Cut edit? 
Offline responses are welcome.

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[Frameworks] Davidson Gigliotti

[Gene Youngblood]

Does anyone have Davidson’s current email?  Or know someone who might have it?


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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental farming films

[Gene Youngblood]

Rick, what venue, and will you be here?

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Rick Prelinger  wrote:
> 
> FARMS LOST AND FOUND, my compilation of home movies shot by farmers and rural 
> Americans, premiering as a work in progress this Wednesday in Santa Fe, New 
> Mexico. 
> 
> http://www.agrariantrust.org/2016symposium/
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Prelinger / @footage
> Prelinger Archives, San Franciscohttp://www.prelinger.com
> foot...@panix.com
> 
> Associate Professor, Film & Digital Media, UC Santa Cruz
> r...@ucsc.edu
> 
> Prelinger Library (http://www.prelingerlibrary.org), a member of the 
> Intersection Incubator, a program of Intersection for the Arts providing 
> fiscal sponsorship, incubation and consulting to artists 
> (http://www.theintersection.org). 
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Christmas films

[Gene Youngblood]

Here are George Kuchar’s Christmas diaries. Descriptions are at VDB. 

 1985 Thanks Giving NY CA,  55:30 
1986 XMAS 1986, 36:51  
1987 Xmas 1987 New Years, 14:00  
1988 Return to the House of Pain, 27:00  
1989 Fill Thy Crack With Whiteness, 14:35   
1989 The Migration of the Blubberoids, 11:00 
1991 The Holiday Xmas Video of ’91, 20:00  
1992 Pilgrimage,  29:00  
1994 Dingle Berry Jingles, 21:00 
1994 Holidaze, 15:30  
1996 The Gift of Gab, 17:30   
1996 Homes for the Holidays, 23:00
1998 The Flakes of Winter,  35:00   
2000 Yuletide Surfers, 15:00   
2001 Murmurs of the Hearth, 12:00  
2002 Holiday Harbor, 14:00
2004 Lumps of Joy, 14:00  
2005 Song of the Whoopee Wind, 12:00   
2007 Frigid Escapades, 09:27 
2008 X mass, 07:20   
2009 Art Space, 10:00
2009 The Unmentionables, 14:25 
2010 Calorie Cottage, 10:00
2010 Tummy Ache Times, 25:00 
 
 

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> 
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> 
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> experimental/artist's film. 
> I'd like to show one or two Christmas/festive themed works and I'd welcome 
> any suggestions you might have for works I should consider. They could 
> involve anything we might associate with the 'festive' season, even if it's 
> just the presence of snow. 
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your suggestions. 
> 
> Harriet. 
> 
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> Next Edition of Alchemy Film and Moving Image Festival: 2-5 March 2017
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Re: [Frameworks] video restoration

[Gene Youngblood]

Thanks Erik. Mercer Media is actually the one I was trying to remember. My 
friend in NY has the tapes so I’ll send him there.



> On Nov 8, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Erik Piil  wrote:
> 
> Dear Gene, 
> 
> I would recommend Mercer Media/The Standby Program, located just outside NYC 
> in Glen Head, NY. As far as I can tell they're the closest vendor to NYC 
> currently offering the services you've requested (3/4" U-Matic tape cleaning, 
> tape incubation, etc.). 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik
> 
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:
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> can restore and digitize 3/4” videotapes at reasonable cost? The restoration 
> (cleaning) is most important. These are important historical documents.
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can restore and digitize 3/4” videotapes at reasonable cost? The restoration 
(cleaning) is most important. These are important historical documents. 
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[Frameworks] Facing Southeast

[Gene Youngblood]

I have a Spanish language (no subtitles) DVD of Eliseo Subiela’s “Man Facing 
Southeast” that I will give to whoever wants it, preferably a school awake 
enough to know what it is, with students undamaged enough to enjoy it. The disc 
is a commercial pressing (not minus-R). Contact me off list.
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[Frameworks] U-Matic

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San Francisco Frameworkers, my friend Kim Spencer (co-founder of Link TV) has a 
rare 3/4” videotape from 1980 that he needs to digitize. It’s documentation of 
a pioneering use of satellites for citizen-to-citizen conversation called 
“Thanksgiving in America — 1980,” which he produced for PBS. The  tape probably 
needs to be baked, but that’s not always the case. Does anyone have a U-Matic 
deck Kim could use to take a look at the tape? Do I assume correctly that BAVC 
is the cheapest place for restoration and digitizing?  
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Re: [Frameworks] telescope

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I guess we’re both confused. This diary is about George’s visit to Vallee’s 
observatory in Mendocino in 1993. I would guess the telescope cost around 
$100,000, but that’s what I want to confirm. I realize it’s a long shot, but 
you never know who’s out there on Frameworks. I’ll send a still frame to anyone 
who knows telescopes well enough to identify a make and model, or at least a 
general class, of such instruments. Or who can recommend an amateur astronomers 
website, although Vallee is no amateur.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Francisco Torres  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure I understand, it is not on youtube. at least i cnnnot find it 
> there.
> 
> 2016-09-17 16:25 GMT-04:00 Gene Youngblood :
> can’t resist a bad pun that it floored George too..
> 
> > On Sep 17, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Craig Baldwin  wrote:
> >
> > When Other Cinema showed "In Advance of the Landing" in that year, George 
> > brought Jacques Vallee to our screening! I was gushing with joy, because I 
> > was a huge fan of Vallee's at the time. But Valle floored me when he turned 
> > around and said that he was in fact a huge fan of MY work ("Tribulation 
> > 99", specifically, released 2 years before)Then, because the show was 
> > sold out, we had to find folding chairs to seat them at the back..but 
> > George's chair was so rickety that it collapsed under his considerable 
> > weight..George hit the ground, and the audience roared in laughter...a good 
> > OC memory
> >
> > Craig Baldwin / Other Cinema
> > 992 Valencia Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94110
> >
> > www.othercinema.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Francisco Torres  
> > wrote:
> > is that an actual telescope he is posing next to? Desk size or another kind?
> >
> > 2016-09-17 11:02 GMT-04:00 Gene Youngblood :
> >
> > For my project on George Kuchar’s video diaries, I need someone who can 
> > identify Jacques Vallee's telescope shown in the 1993 diary “ Tower of the  
> > Astro- Cyclops.” Vallee is uncooperative. So can anyone point me to an 
> > amateur astronomer’s club, or to an individual or university department 
> > that might be able to help? Any UFO buffs who might have an article or book 
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can’t resist a bad pun that it floored George too..

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Craig Baldwin  wrote:
> 
> When Other Cinema showed "In Advance of the Landing" in that year, George 
> brought Jacques Vallee to our screening! I was gushing with joy, because I 
> was a huge fan of Vallee's at the time. But Valle floored me when he turned 
> around and said that he was in fact a huge fan of MY work ("Tribulation 99", 
> specifically, released 2 years before)Then, because the show was sold 
> out, we had to find folding chairs to seat them at the back..but George's 
> chair was so rickety that it collapsed under his considerable weight..George 
> hit the ground, and the audience roared in laughter...a good OC memory
> 
> Craig Baldwin / Other Cinema
> 992 Valencia Street
> San Francisco, CA 94110
> 
> www.othercinema.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Francisco Torres  
> wrote:
> is that an actual telescope he is posing next to? Desk size or another kind?
> 
> 2016-09-17 11:02 GMT-04:00 Gene Youngblood :
> 
> For my project on George Kuchar’s video diaries, I need someone who can 
> identify Jacques Vallee's telescope shown in the 1993 diary “ Tower of the  
> Astro- Cyclops.” Vallee is uncooperative. So can anyone point me to an 
> amateur astronomer’s club, or to an individual or university department that 
> might be able to help? Any UFO buffs who might have an article or book with 
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Re: [Frameworks] telescope

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Francisco,
I’m not sure I understand your question. If you’re watching it on You Tube, 
your question is answered. 

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Francisco Torres  wrote:
> 
> is that an actual telescope he is posing next to? Desk size or another kind?
> 
> 2016-09-17 11:02 GMT-04:00 Gene Youngblood :
> 
> For my project on George Kuchar’s video diaries, I need someone who can 
> identify Jacques Vallee's telescope shown in the 1993 diary “ Tower of the  
> Astro- Cyclops.” Vallee is uncooperative. So can anyone point me to an 
> amateur astronomer’s club, or to an individual or university department that 
> might be able to help? Any UFO buffs who might have an article or book with 
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[Frameworks] telescope

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For my project on George Kuchar’s video diaries, I need someone who can 
identify Jacques Vallee's telescope shown in the 1993 diary “Tower of the 
Astro-Cyclops.” Vallee is uncooperative. So can anyone point me to an amateur 
astronomer’s club, or to an individual or university department that might be 
able to help? Any UFO buffs who might have an article or book with this 
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Re: [Frameworks] Download Helper

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Thanks, Francisco!


> On Sep 13, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Francisco Torres  wrote:
> 
> Book TV has a youtube ch., perchance those programs can be downloaded as most 
> youtube content can..
> https://www.youtube.com/user/BookTV
> 
> 2016-09-13 11:04 GMT-04:00 Gene Youngblood :
> Friends,
> I need to download Book TV programs on C-Span 2. Does anyone know if Download 
> Helper for Firefox can do that? I’m having difficulty.
> 
> C-Span has its own clipping feature, but they keep them
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[Frameworks] Download Helper

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Friends,
I need to download Book TV programs on C-Span 2. Does anyone know if Download 
Helper for Firefox can do that? I’m having difficulty.

C-Span has its own clipping feature, but they keep them
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Re: [Frameworks] Docs With Expressive Dramatizations

[Gene Youngblood]

Ken,
Do you require that the “expressive dramatizations” come from the maker of the 
documentary? That’s important. There’s a doc about the history of class 
struggle in America that Link TV has been showing in the past few months which 
is illustrated entirely with clips from feature films, but it’s not a critique 
of those films, and the viewer is not supposed to receive them as such. You’re 
supposed to understand them as “expressive dramatizations” of the documentary’s 
subject and ignore where they came from. There are a lot of them, from 
"Matewan” to “The Age of Innocence” (they are not identified) and it works, 
more or less. I qualify it because it’s like telling someone “don’t think of an 
elephant.” Especially people like us; maybe an “average filmgoer,” whatever 
that means, would not be as aware. I’m losing the name of the doc right now. 


> On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm researching docs that feature expressive dramatizations, either as brief 
> interstitial moments or extended scenes such as 'The Act of Killing'. I look 
> forward to any and all suggestions. 
> 
> Thanks, Ken
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[Frameworks] Kuchar Project

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Friends,
Here’s a six-minute summary/update of my project on George Kuchar’s video 
diaries. Please distribute.
https://vimeo.com/179663010?utm_source=email&utm_medium=vimeo-cliptranscode-201504&utm_campaign=29220
 
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[Frameworks] A Memory

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Friends, I don’t know why I have the urge to post this, but in any case a 
one-page fragment from my memoirs, a childhood scene, is here: 
http://www.art-in-society.de/AS16/ASissue16.html 
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Re: [Frameworks] leads for research on USIA and avant-garde film?

[Gene Youngblood]

Alexander Hammid worked for a well-known studio (I’m forgetting the man’s  
name) that produced those kinds of films, often multiscreen.



> On Jul 30, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Chuck Kleinhans  
> wrote:
> 
> Given your interest in the Eames, you might consider  as roughly within the 
> “experimental” realm films made for Fairs, Expositions, trade festivals, etc. 
>  These were often one time installations, but broke from “conventional” 
> forms..  Though they were often made by people who were established as 
> commercial designers, etc.
> 
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
> chuck...@northwestern.edu 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Peter Hutton

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I carry this indelible image of Peter: we were walking down a street on a 
blustery day here in Santa Fe, deep in passionate discussion, when we came upon 
a huge Cottonwood tree swaying majestically in the wind, as if in slow motion. 
It was an arresting sight. We paused for a while then walked on, me continuing 
the thought that had been interrupted, when I realized Peter wasn’t beside me. 
I turned around to see him a block behind, still standing where we had stopped. 
“Of  course,” I thought to myself, “that isn’t just anyone staring at the tree, 
that’s Peter Hutton, seeing it through the frame of all those shimmering films 
he has given us.” I walked back to join him and we stood in silence, transfixed 
by the Cottonwood’s great mass undulating like the surface of a rolling sea. 

A year or so later, in 2007, Peter happened to be in Albuquerque for Bryan 
Konefsky’s Experiments in Cinema festival at the same time as my retirement 
party at the College of Santa Fe, so he was able to be there. I felt honored by 
his presence. I had shown his films for 36 of the 38 years I taught the history 
of experimental film, tracking the evolution of an artistic vision that 
epitomized our noble tradition. For me it was perfect closure. A photo is here: 
https://www.facebook.com/gene.youngblood.7 
 


> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:06 AM, Raquel Schefer  wrote:
> 
> This is a very sad news. Peter Hutton will always continue to live through 
> his films.
> 
> 2016-06-26 13:26 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Léon  >:
> It's a very sad news. ​I'm shocked. 
> 
> 2016-06-26 4:02 GMT+02:00 o...@thenowcorporation.com 
>   >:
> I'm sorry to hear this. my condolences.
> 
> Owen's mobile device
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Scott MacDonald  > wrote:
> 
>> It's hard to process, Dominic. I saw him in early February and he looked and 
>> seemed his usual self. Talked to him last Sunday and he was hopeful he could 
>> recover.
>> 
>> So sad.
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Dominic Angerame 
>> mailto:dominic.anger...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> OMG this is terrible. I knew Peter for many years through Canyon Cinema and 
>> am shocked to hear of his passing. We hung out in Paris when we both were 
>> showing films at the Fondation Cartier in a show by Paul Virilio. 
>> 
>> He told me stories of his life in the early days of Canyon Cinema and he 
>> built the shelving units that still remain in the archives with his name on 
>> it.
>> 
>> I just do not know what to say.
>> 
>> With great sadness
>> 
>> Dominic
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Scott MacDonald > > wrote:
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I write in deep sorrow, with terrible news: Peter Hutton died today.
>> 
>> As many of you know first-hand, Peter was one of the loveliest people who 
>> ever walked the earth--and one of the great filmmakers. 
>> 
>> He is survived by his daughter Manon and his wife Carolina Gonzalez 
>> Hutton--and by a body of astonishingly beautiful films. And by the hundreds 
>> of students who studied with him over the years.
>> 
>> Peter died of a virulent lung cancer.
>> 
>> In his last days he heard from many old and new friends--and when I spoke to 
>> him last Sunday, he was upbeat and hopeful.
>> 
>> What, really, can one say?
>> 
>> If I learn news that might be of interest to Frameworks, I'll be back in 
>> touch
>> 
>> Scott
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Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

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Woody Vasulka pioneered these kinds of investigations vasulka.org 
 



> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Laura McGough  wrote:
> 
> Richard Dienst talks a bit about scanning as an aesthetic in "Still Life in 
> Real Time: Theory After Television"
> 
> Best,
> 
> Laura 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:00 AM, Ben Gwilliam  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone knows of any critical texts on video interlacing 
>> aesthetics or similar texts that deal with substrate artifact in digital 
>> video.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Ben
>> 
>> thosesoundsbetween.co.UK
>> timeinbetweenspace.tumblrcom
>> 
>> it takes as long as it takes
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[Frameworks] Mary Ellen Bute Bio

[Gene Youngblood]

I’m forwarding to the list this email, below, from a lady who has written a 
biography of Mary Ellen Bute and is seeking recommendations about getting it 
published. If you want to help her, please don’t reply to this, contact her 
directly. It seems like a worthy contribution to the historical record. 


> On May 9, 2016, at 12:46 PM, kitbasq...@aol.com  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Mr. Youngblood.
>  
> My filmmaker son Bill Basquin, who met you and your wife recently at the 
> Experiments in Cinema Festival in Albuquerque, NM, gave me your e-mail 
> address through the Frameworks list, and suggested I write you.
>  
> I have written a biography of pioneer experimental filmmaker Mary Ellen Bute 
> (1906–1983) who won a Cannes film festival Prize for directing PASSAGES FROM 
> JAMES JOYCE’S FINNEGANS WAKE in 1965. Bute was the first person to interpret 
> Joyce for the screen. A Houston debutante and amateur artist, Bute escaped 
> into the New York world of filmmaking in 1934.
>  
> With her ace cameraman and future husband Ted Nemeth, Bute directed 13 
> abstract animated shorts, including the first film in the USA to incorporate 
> electronic imagery in 1952, the forerunner of digital cinema.  She completed 
> three films before she saw those of Oskar Fischinger, with whom she is often 
> compared. My biography includes never published film stills and Bute family 
> photographs, as well as interviews with some of the people who worked on FW, 
> and extensive interviews with Ted Nemeth on technical aspects of the film. 
> With a PhD in art history, I relate Bute’s early paintings and films to the 
> art world 1930–1960.
>  
> A friend of Bute, I started interviewing her family and associates the year 
> after she died. I retired from thirteen years at The Metropolitan Museum of 
> Art in 2014. I have lectured extensively, as a former curator of education, 
> and written for ART IN PRINT, WOMAN’S ART JOURNAL, FlashPointMag.com 
> , and ANGLES: WOMEN WORKING IN FILM AND VIDEO.  In 
> February, 2016, I introduced Bute’s FW for a film showing at the Yale Film 
> Study Center.
>  
> Can you suggest publishers or book agents who might be interested in this 
> type of manuscript? Thank you in advance for your help. 
>  
> Sincerely, Kit Smyth Basquin, PhD (kitbasq...@aol.com 
> )
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Re: [Frameworks] codecs

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Thanks Buck.

> On May 4, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Buck Bito - Movette  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gene,
> For sure the Prores422 as long as your on a system that works fine with
> it: iMovie, FCP, Premiere, Resolve, Vegas, among many others.
> 
> Prore422 is a proper intermediate codec and you can know what it is.
> Whereas H.264 *can* be very high quality, knowing that it is H.264 does
> not tell you very much about it, because it could be encoded in a near
> infinite combination of bit rates, I frame frequencies, color encodings,
> etc...
> 
> Because you have the same program in both codecs, you can tell that it was
> not a super high quality H.264 encoding simply because it is less than
> 1/25 the size of the Prores.
> 
> -Sincerely,
> --Buck Bito - Movette Film Transfer
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 5:56 pm, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>> Friends,
>> I have on a hard drive two different encodings of a program I downloaded
>> from Link TV. One codec is Apple ProRes 422 (100 GB), the other is H.264
>> (3.52 GB). I don't remember why we did that, but my question is: which
>> version is best as b-roll for a doc I'm making?
>> 
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[Frameworks] codecs

[Gene Youngblood]

Friends,
I have on a hard drive two different encodings of a program I downloaded from 
Link TV. One codec is Apple ProRes 422 (100 GB), the other is H.264 (3.52 GB). 
I don’t remember why we did that, but my question is: which version is best as 
b-roll for a doc I’m making?


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[Frameworks] Youngblood & Kuchar

[Gene Youngblood]

Sorry about the mistake in previous post. Here’s the  announcement of my 
presentation on George Kuchar’s video diaries at the San Francisco Art 
Institute on Sunday, April 24, at 5pm:

fai.edu/events-calendar/detail/tarnished-angel-the-diaries-of-george-kuchar 

 

I realize it conflicts with SFIFF’s experimental film program at PFA, but I 
guarantee you won’t be sorry you came to see George instead. The announcement 
explains why, and there won’t be another show like this again anywhere for 
quite a while.

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[Frameworks] Conrad and Kuchar

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For Frameworkers in general, an interview with Tony Conrad in Artforum:

http://www.filmcomment.com/blog/loose-ends-an-interview-with-tony-conrad/?utm_source=wordfly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=FC04-15-16&utm_content=version_A
 

 

For Frameworkers in San Francisco, the premiere of my project on George 
Kuchar’s video diaries at the San Francisco Art Institute,  Sunday, April 24, 
at 5pm:

www.filmcomment.com/blog/loose-ends-an-interview-with-tony-conrad/?utm_source=wordfly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=FC04-15-16&utm_content=version_A
 

  

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there. Please join us, especially if you’d like to contribute to the project. 
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Re: [Frameworks] I'm a revolutionary

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Warren,
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I appreciate it. Yesterday I 
bought the PBS documentary that Bryan Konefsky said the clip was from, but 
maybe Amy’s context makes it stronger. We’ll see.

Naturally, I agree with your assessment of the situation. But since words tell 
us what we think, I suggest a slight modification of terminology: the system 
isn’t “broken,” it’s performing exactly as it’s structured to perform 
(“structural racism”). You fix something that’s broken (that’s called reform); 
you overthrow something that’s structurally incapable of transformation (that’s 
called revolution). To say “broken” is collaboration in our oppression.

I was co-editor of the underground newspaper, the Los Angeles Free Press, when 
Hampton was assassinated. We published numerous articles about COINTELPRO 
(Counter Intelligence Program). Ever since the Snowden revelations and the 
NSA’s panoptic response, I’ve argued repeatedly that the NSA (aka, the predator 
state), has no choice: the digital condition means that, in the interest of 
social control, everyone is legitimately suspect. It’s COINTELPRO forever. 
That’s why I want the “I am a revolutionary” clip.






> On Apr 12, 2016, at 11:35 PM, Warren Cockerham  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Gene, 
> 
> I remember seeing that like a week or so ago - and like Jeff, I thought of 
> Fred Hampton (assassinated by the Chicago Police by order of FBI's Cointelpro 
> on 12/4/69). Very little has changed. The clip in question was on Democracy 
> Now! on 3/31 during the headlines. A protester in Minneapolis was shouting "I 
> am a Revolutionary!" to a crowd of hundreds also protesting the idiotic and 
> now endemic decision to not charge the cops that murdered Jamar Clark 
> <http://www.reuters.com/article/us-minnesota-police-idUSKCN0WW1L9>. "... a 
> broken criminal justice system." Too broken. Broken enough to have another 
> BPP for Self Defense. I think that Fred would be proud of Black Lives 
> Matter... we need thousands of Fred Hamptons now. 
> 
> Amy Goodman covers this briefly during the headlines on 3/31 
> (http://www.democracynow.org/shows/2016/3/31 
> <http://www.democracynow.org/shows/2016/3/31>). The story begins at 5:12 and 
> the quote in question begins at 5:49. I remember Amy's interview with Keith 
> Ellison 
> <http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/25/us_rep_keith_ellison_demands_transparent>
>  in the fall during the initial protests. Some stupid fucking cop pointed an 
> assault rifle at Ellison's son! <> And here in New York City this weekend, we 
> have the mayor and a presidential candidate making insensitive racial jokes 
> like it's no big deal... and I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I hope these 
> voters wake up and realize that these pigs are often not just gangs of cops 
> anymore they are often the kinds of cops called 'super predators'... no 
> conscience, no empathy... we can talk about why they ended up that way but 
> first, we have to bring them to heel. 
> 
> - Warren 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Gene Youngblood  <mailto:ato...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> Frameworkers,
> I recently saw on Democracy Now (I think; the source really doesn’t matter) 
> an interstitial showing a protest demonstration with a call-and-response 
> where the speaker said “I am a revolutionary” over and over,  and the crowd 
> repeated it with him over and over. I vaguely recall it was black and white, 
> but it may not be. And I don’t know if it was a recent event or not.
> 
> I searched  the phrase on You Tube but only found interviews in which it was 
> used by individuals. Does anyone know the clip I’m talking about?
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[Frameworks] I'm a revolutionary

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Frameworkers,
I recently saw on Democracy Now (I think; the source really doesn’t matter) an 
interstitial showing a protest demonstration with a call-and-response where the 
speaker said “I am a revolutionary” over and over,  and the crowd repeated it 
with him over and over. I vaguely recall it was black and white, but it may not 
be. And I don’t know if it was a recent event or not.

I searched  the phrase on You Tube but only found interviews in which it was 
used by individuals. Does anyone know the clip I’m talking about?
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Re: [Frameworks] Tony Conrad

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I taught summer session in Gerry O’Grady’s media program at SUNY Buffalo for 
two summers, 1974 & 1975, with Tony, Paul Sharits, Hollis Frampton, the 
Vasulkas and others.  I saw Tony every day those two summers, and we talked a 
lot, at his home and elsewhere. He played violin for me one day; another day we 
were driving along what I think was the Niagara River, which flows northward 
toward Niagara Falls. My memory is of a wide, deep and powerful body of water 
moving very fast. You’d drown if you fell into it. Tony was talking loud over 
the noise of his van, on a roll with some thought vector he was on. Over the 
years, whenever I thought of Tony, I saw that image, and I still do: I conflate 
the contrarian yet exhilarating rush of that north-flowing mass of water, 
strangely quiet, with Tony himself.


> On Apr 10, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Pip Chodorov  wrote:
> 
> I read the article this morning, Hoberman's obit of Tony Conrad.
> 
> I knew he was very sick, and would not be getting better, it was getting hard 
> for him to walk, and the thought of cataloguing and preserving all the films, 
> tapes, costumes, objects and inventions in his house was beginning to weigh 
> on his friends.
> 
> But now I see his name in the paper, it is final. To remember Tony, you can 
> listen to his last performance of the Dream Syndicate:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBi8GeV7IFI
> 
> or watch him talk about his yellow movies:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uh-SF4Z7AI
> 
> or read a recent article:
> http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/22/people-thought-we-were-on-drugs-and-we-were-tony-conrad-the-great-avant-garde-adventurer
> 
> or watch Marie Losier's brilliant film portrait:
> https://www.realeyz.tv/en/tony-conrad-dreaminimalist.html
> 
> All the ways in which Tony made us think or laugh, usually both, will live on 
> forever through his work and remembering moments of time spent together in 
> public or private.
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films around the domestic interior and group study

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Peter Tscherkassky, “Outer Space” (1999). 

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 5:07 PM, T. Siddle  wrote:
> 
> "House Fuck" by Lyra Hill
> 
> On Apr 3, 2016 2:56 PM, "JS Shokrian"  > wrote:
> Frameworkers,
> 
> Can you think of any films that turn the interior out, a dismantling, falling 
> apart, unhinged?
> 
> Or any scenes in a film that show people in group study?
> 
> Thanks in advance x 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> :
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Re: [Frameworks] EIC party

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Oops!
Sorry folks, I forgot I was replying to Frameworks

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Dominic Angerame  
> wrote:
> 
> Gene let me know when you are in San Francisco we can finally meet. 
> 415-982-2277
> 
> Dominic
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Gene Youngblood  <mailto:ato...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> Hi Bryan,
> We’re coming to your party Saturday April 9, as we do every year. This time 
> not only to join you, but also to meet with Scott Stark, who will give us the 
> key to his house in San Francisco. 
> 
> We’ll bring the DVDs we’re donating to Basement Films. We can drop them off 
> at your house, or we could deliver them to the Guild after your party. There 
> are three boxes that make a stack 24” high, 19” wide, 15” deep. They’re 
> heavy, so we  need help unloading.  If you’d like to Skype briefly, we’re 
> here all day tomorrow.
> 
> Regards to Patti & looking forward... 
> G&J
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:14 PM, bryan konefsky > <mailto:experimentsincin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone - I just wanted to remind people that our 11th edition of 
>> Experiments in Cinema will take place here in Albuquerque, New Mexico April 
>> 5-10!  This year, in addition to the 100+ films that we will screen from 35+ 
>> countries, we will also have a focus on women in undependent cinema.  To 
>> celebrate our focus we are publishing a new yearbook (available at 
>> www.experimentsincinema.org <http://www.experimentsincinema.org/>) titled 
>> Experiments in She-ness: Women & Undependent Cinema with essays by Ariel 
>> Dougherty, Laura Mulvey, kamila Kuc, Caryn Cline, Kerrie Welsh, Kate Lain, 
>> Nina Fonoroff & Eva Hayward, Marcella Ernest, Bill Basquin, Elizabeth Sher, 
>> Kelly Gallagher, and Maarit Suomi Vanaanen!  Additionally, know that our new 
>> fundraising DVD collection (8 discs) is also now available on our website.
>> 
>> all the best,
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>> Artistic Director, Experiments in Cinema
>> President Basement Films
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] EIC party

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Hi Bryan,
We’re coming to your party Saturday April 9, as we do every year. This time not 
only to join you, but also to meet with Scott Stark, who will give us the key 
to his house in San Francisco. 

We’ll bring the DVDs we’re donating to Basement Films. We can drop them off at 
your house, or we could deliver them to the Guild after your party. There are 
three boxes that make a stack 24” high, 19” wide, 15” deep. They’re heavy, so 
we  need help unloading.  If you’d like to Skype briefly, we’re here all day 
tomorrow.

Regards to Patti & looking forward... 
G&J






> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:14 PM, bryan konefsky  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone - I just wanted to remind people that our 11th edition of 
> Experiments in Cinema will take place here in Albuquerque, New Mexico April 
> 5-10!  This year, in addition to the 100+ films that we will screen from 35+ 
> countries, we will also have a focus on women in undependent cinema.  To 
> celebrate our focus we are publishing a new yearbook (available at 
> www.experimentsincinema.org ) titled 
> Experiments in She-ness: Women & Undependent Cinema with essays by Ariel 
> Dougherty, Laura Mulvey, kamila Kuc, Caryn Cline, Kerrie Welsh, Kate Lain, 
> Nina Fonoroff & Eva Hayward, Marcella Ernest, Bill Basquin, Elizabeth Sher, 
> Kelly Gallagher, and Maarit Suomi Vanaanen!  Additionally, know that our new 
> fundraising DVD collection (8 discs) is also now available on our website.
> 
> all the best,
> Bryan Konefsky, Visualiste 
> Artistic Director, Experiments in Cinema
> President Basement Films
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> Albuquerque, NM 87119 USA
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