Re: [Frameworks] Bolex Repair

2020-08-16 Thread Julian Antos
I sent mine to this guy and had no complaints. Quick turnaround and
reasonable price.

https://www.drbolex.com/

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 8:47 PM Dominic Angerame 
wrote:

> Thanks, looking for a US repair if I can. Will keep his email just in case.
>
> Dominic
>
> > On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:34 AM, jjmartinod 
> wrote:
> >
> > Jean-Louis Seguin in Montreal, QC.
> > bolext...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> >
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> >
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:32 AM, Dominic Angerame <
> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I know this question has been answered many times. Who is a reliable
> Bolex repairman. The one I have been using in San Francisco has retired and
> there are not many others such as him. Bolex rex 3
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Dominic
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[Frameworks] Tripod Wanted

2020-06-29 Thread Julian Antos
Looking for a used tripod suitable for supporting an Eclair NPR. Need
something durable but nothing fancy. Please email off list if you have
anything to sell!
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Film Projector

2020-06-06 Thread Julian Antos
FWIW an Eiki SSL or similar would seems to be the most likely to work
without issue even after sitting for many years.

Elmos will have disintegrated rubber rollers, Pageants will almost
certainly have sound or motor problems, and Bell and Howells will have
cracked worm gears.

This isn’t to say that you shouldn’t remove and clean all rollers and go
over the entire film path, but an Eiki that has been sitting is probably ok
and won’t need much work. Most likely the focus mechanism will have
disintegrated and on older machines the belts can also turn to goo.

Still, these machines should be serviced regularly if they’re expected to
last. Running a projector with minor mechanical issues can damage your
films AND your projector.



On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 4:27 PM Dominic Angerame 
wrote:

> Seek and you will find. I have been able to purchase many in good working
> condition. Postage is a problem and trust little on Ebay…most have never
> used the one’s they are selling. I have acquired most of my equipment
> enough for two complete benches etc by constantly looking and carefully,
> very carefully looking on Ebay.
>
> Dominic
>
> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
> >
> > The problem with those freebies is that they aren't free.  People get
> them,
> > they don't want to pay to have them cleaned and lubed before they use
> them,
> > and then they wreck the cams in an hour of using them dry.  Budget maybe
> > $200 to $300 to have a free projector put into condition to use.
> >
> > Please do not apply power to a projector that has been on the shelf for
> > decades.
> > --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] EIKI slimline 16mm projector query

2020-05-26 Thread Julian Antos
A bigger hub does help, but the heavy takeup reel is also taking up better
because takeup is designed to increase tension as the reel gets heavier. If
there is only adequate tension at the start using a heavy reel, you’ll
probably have less than you need by the end of the reel - especially if a
print is warped.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:17 AM Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> The heavy takeup reel isn't taking up better because it's heavy, it is
> taking
> up better because the diameter of the center hub is larger.  Just fix it.
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Re: [Frameworks] Free junk film

2020-04-28 Thread Julian Antos
All claimed for now! Thanks!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:20 PM Julian Antos 
wrote:

> We have a couple boxes of 16mm and a small box of 35mm "junk" film that
> can be used for scratch animation, found footage, practice reels for
> projection, etc. May have perf damage, faded color, or other issues.
> Verified to be not interesting, unique, or otherwise watchable content on
> its own, but perhaps you can make it wonderful.
>
> If you'd like some, send an email off list. Free!
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[Frameworks] Free junk film

2020-04-28 Thread Julian Antos
We have a couple boxes of 16mm and a small box of 35mm "junk" film that can
be used for scratch animation, found footage, practice reels for
projection, etc. May have perf damage, faded color, or other issues.
Verified to be not interesting, unique, or otherwise watchable content on
its own, but perhaps you can make it wonderful.

If you'd like some, send an email off list. Free!

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Re: [Frameworks] spools, reels and rolls

2020-04-23 Thread Julian Antos
I once lent a 35mm print to a festival on reels, and it came back on cores
with the reels shipped separately because somewhere along the lines there
was a miscommunication about the terms bobbins, spools, and reels. I think
there was something weird with their spindle size too. An amusing mixup.

In 35mm (at least in the Midwest US):

Spool = Nobody here says spool unless they're talking about cameras, like a
daylight spool. I would consider spool synonymous with reel because I've
heard people in england say "spool box" which I would call a "reel bin" (or
they could also mean) "magazine" (as on a projector, not a camera).

Reels = The thing that holds the film (shipping reel, split reel, house
reel), but also the film itself (West Side Story reel 5 of 12). If a reel
of a feature film is on a core, it's still a reel, even if it's not a reel.

Roll = The only time I would say roll is "camera roll" or "AB rolls" - Now
that I think of it a 2000' "unit" of raw stock might be called a roll, but
when it is printed and processed to become West Side Story Reel 5 it is
suddenly a "reel."

A fascinating question! I could think about this all day!

Also, I *load* a camera but *thread* a projector.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:08 PM Dave Tetzlaff  wrote:

> I would say that “roll” refers to the film itself, “spool” and “reel”
> refer to objects the film is wound onto, each of which have sides — as
> opposed to “cores” which do not — and are sized by their capacity, rather
> than diameter as is the case with audiotape reels. E.g. a standard small
> audio reel is 5”, and standard small film reel 400’. While “spool" and
> “reel” are sometimes used interchangeably, I would say a spool generally
> denotes both a smaller object, and one on which camera original is wound,
> while a reel contains a finished copy for projection. Film reel generally
> have open sides while spools have solid sides.
>
> Examples:
> 16mm
>
> A 100’ load for a Bolex 16mm comes on a solid metal daylight spool, and is
> wound onto another 100’ daylight spool form take-up.
>
> The lab might send the footage back on a 100’ plastic spool that’s no good
> for in-camera use because it’s translucent.
>
> When you edit your workprint, the film is wound between cores, either on a
> flatbed, or, if you’re on an upright bench with a syncronizer, the cores
> are mounted into split-reels. (I’ve never heard them called split-spools,
> but YMMV)
>
> After you send the materials for your edited short film off to the lab,
> the answer print comes back on a 400’ (e.g.) projection reel.
>
> Super 8
>
> A 50’ load comes in a cartridge. After you exposeit, you send it to the
> lab and they send the film back on a white plastic 50’ spool. You thread
> that through your projector onto a 200’ take-up reel.
>
> IDK about 35mm
>
> > Is there a difference in standard measurements of lengths of film on
> spools, reels and rolls?
> >
> > A roll of film is for shorter lengths while a reel is for longer ones?
> for example, 100 foot roll and 1000 foot reel
> >
> > Can you say a spool of film - or have i confused things? Are these terms
> different for super 8, 16 and 35mm?
> >
> > Any help in untangling and defining this will be much appreciated!
> >
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Re: [Frameworks] Laser printing tutorial

2020-04-13 Thread Julian Antos
This is great! Will give it a try :)

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:33 AM Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> I made this very quick (& very dense) tutorial about laser printing on
> 16mm leader to take the place of a class visit at the University of South
> Carolina that was canceled when the world shut down.  I originally thought
> I’d just share it with the students in the class, but then I posted on FB,
> where folks seemed to find it useful, so I figured I’d share it here as
> well.  If you’re teaching 16mm & your students no longer have access to
> gear or if you’re in that situation yourself, maybe it’ll suggest one way
> you can keep on making work on film:
>
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/402644336/578a9aab08
>
>
>
> There’s a much longer version of this that I do as a workshop (between 3
> hours and 4 days(!)), so do know that this 10-minute primer is just the tip
> of the iceberg.
>
>
>
> (And if you don’t have clear leader, I’m assuming Larry Urbanski or Dwight
> Cody could still hook you up during the lockdown—likely a lot easier to get
> your hands on than raw stock, a camera, a functioning lab or darkroom
> chemistry, etc.).
>
>
>
> FYI,
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[Frameworks] 50 Years of Super 16

2020-02-24 Thread Julian Antos
Hi all,

As part of the unofficial 50th anniversary of Super 16, Chicago Film
Society is attempting to create a list of all films shot on this great
format. While I don't think it will be possible to list all of them, I'd
like to get as comprehensive as possible. I'm pasting a list of titles
below - if anyone has any to add, let me know and I can share you on our
spreadsheet - we're also collecting data on labs, cameras, and filmstocks
used. Not just interested in features, but also shorts and music videos,
new and old.

We're also having a year long Super-16 sidebar as part of our programming.
The next film will be *UNCLE BOONMEE WHO CAN RECALL HIS PAST LIVES *(Screening
on 35mm), preceded by Jodie Mack's “Blanket Statement #2: It’s All or
Nothing” - Screening details here
<https://www.chicagofilmsociety.org/2020/02/20/uncle-boonmee/>.

Also: if anyone has Super 16 stories or information to share, please write
to me!

Best,

Julian

List of Titles Shot in Super 16 (work in progress!!)

Title Director Release Date
84 Charlie Mopic Patrick Duncan 1989
A Bread Factory Patrick Wang 2018
A Mighty Wind Christopher Guest 2003
Admissions Melissa Painter 2004
Alambrista! Robert M. Young 1977
Ballad of Gregorio Cortez Robert M. Young 1982
Beasts of the Southern Wild Benh Zeitlin 2012
Beeswax Andrew Bujalski 2009
Best in Show Christopher Guest 2000
Black Swan Darren Aronofsky 2010
Blue Valentine Derek Cianfrance 2010
Blushing Charlie Vilgot Sjöman 1970
Carol Todd Haynes 2015
Certain Women Kelly Reichardt 2016
Chained for Life Aaron Schimberg 2018
CIRCUS Lear Levin 1984
City of God Fernando Mereille 2002
Coastlines Victor Nunez 2008
Combination Platter Tony Chan 1993
Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean Robert Altman 1982
"Distant Harmony" Pavarotti in China DeWitt Sage
<https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756040/?ref_=tt_ov_dr> 1987
Dog Soldiers Neil Marshall 2002
Downtown 81 Edo Bertoglio 2000
Flash of Green Victor Nunez 1984
For Us, The Living: The Medgar Evers Story Michael Schultz 1983
Force of Circumstance Liza Bear 1990
Frownland Ronald Bronstein 2007
Fruitvale Station Ryan Coogler 2013
Golden Exits Alex Ross Perry 2017
Half Nelson Ryan Fleck 2006
Happy Christmas Joe Swanberg 2014
Harsh Times David Ayer 2005
Hero Alexandre Rockwell 1983
Hustle and Flow Craig Brewer 2005
Jackie Pablo Larraín 2016
Junebug Phil Morrison 2005
Just Another Girl on the IRT Leslie Harris 1992
Leaving Las Vegas Mike Figgis 1995
Listen Up Phillip Alex Ross Perry 2014
Manhattan by Numbers Amir Naderi 1993
Metropolitan Whit Stillman 1990
Monsoon Wedding Mira Nair 2001
Moonrise Kingdom Wes Anderson 2012
Mr. Roosevelt Noël Wells 2017
Never Die Alone Ernest Dickerson 2004
Old Joy Kelly Reichardt 2006
Parting Glances Bill Sherwood 1986
Person to Person Dustin Guy Defa 2017
Primer Shane Carruth 2004
Queen of Earth Alex Ross Perry 2015
Ruby in Paradise Victor Nunez 1993
Rum Diaries Bruce Robinson
<https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0732430/?ref_=ttfc_fc_dr1> 2011
She’s Gotta Have it Spike Lee 1986
Shortbus John Cameron Mitchell 2006
Silver City John Sayles 2004
Southern Justice M.D. Selig 2006
Steve Jobs (Partial) Danny Boyle 2015
Surrender, Dorothy Charles McDougall 2006
The Ballad of Jack and Rose Rebecca Miller 2005
The Big Blue Andrew Horn 1988
The Color Wheel Alex Ross Perry 2011
The Devil's Rejects Rob Zombie 2005
The Draughtman’s Contract Peter Greenaway 1982
The Grief of Others Patrick Wang 2015
The Hurt Locker Kathryn Bigelow 2008
The Making of “And God Spoke" Mark and Arthur Borman 1993
The Meyerowitz Stories Noah Baumbach 2017
The Old Man and the Gun David Lowery 2018
The Paperboy Lee Daniels 2012
The Squid and the Whale Noah Baumbach 2005
The Woman in the Moon Ariadne Kimberly
<https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0453866/?ref_=tt_ov_dr> 1996
The Wrestler Darren Aronofsky 2008
Tommorrow Night Louis C.K.
<https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0127373/?ref_=tt_ov_dr> 1998
Ulee’s Gold Victor Nunez 1997
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives Apichatpong Weerasethakul 2010
Vanya on 42nd Street Louis Malle
<https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001501/?ref_=tt_ov_dr> 1994
Vera Drake Mike Leigh 2004
Waiting for Guffman Christopher Guest 1996
Walk the Walk Robert Kramer 1996
Wendy and Lucy Kelly Reichardt 2008
Wigstock: The Movie
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114937/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1> Barry
Shils <https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0793522/?ref_=tt_ov_dr> 1995
Win it All Joe Swanberg 2017
Working Girls Lizzie Borden 1986

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[Frameworks] 35mm slides from digital files

2019-09-01 Thread Julian Antos
Can someone recommend a vendor for making 35mm slides from digital files?

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[Frameworks] 16mm Projectionist Workshop in Chicago

2019-08-12 Thread Julian Antos
Hi all,

Chicago Film Society will be hosting an intensive, two day 16mm projection
workshop later next month, in collaboration with L’Abominable, Process
Reversal, Chicago Film Archives, and filmprojection21.org.

Details are below, and on our website here
<https://www.chicagofilmsociety.org/projects/projection-workshops/>. Please
feel free to email me off list with any questions!




*Advanced 16mm Projection Workshop in Chicago:Saturday, September 21 –
Sunday, September 22*

Intended for people with at least some experience handling and projecting
16mm prints, the *Advanced 16mm Projection Workshop* is open to anyone
working in a microcinema, film archive, arthouse, running an experimental
film series, or making or collecting 16mm films. The workshop will focus on
improving projection skills and sharing knowledge and experience between
projectionists and film handlers with different backgrounds.

Topics covered in this two day intensive workshop will include: film
inspection; projector maintenance, repair, and troubleshooting; optics and
lenses; optical soundhead alignment; and xenon lamphouse alignment.

First and foremost, the workshop will focus on avoiding film damage and
presenting 16mm film prints with the best possible image and sound.

The workshop will be preceded by a public film screening at Cinema Borealis
on Friday, September 20, and a public discussion about the perspectives and
issues of photochemical film projection. (Details to come)

To apply for the Advanced 16mm Projection Workshop, please fill out this
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfZTJxcyktfyTHnHvNtwhoClLM6ZvmcW-6qVDGZMMt0SmiAiQ/viewform?usp=sf_link>
brief questionnaire
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfZTJxcyktfyTHnHvNtwhoClLM6ZvmcW-6qVDGZMMt0SmiAiQ/viewform?usp=sf_link>.
Registration is limited to 12 qualified participants on a first come first
served basis.

In order to cover our costs, a fee of $150 will be charged to individual
participants. If you are currently employed by an institution and your
employer is paying for you to participate in this workshop, the fee will be
$250. Breakfast and lunch will be provided.

*Both workshop days will begin at 9AM and will run until 10PM. Saturday
will take place entirely at Chicago Film Archives (329 W 18th St, Suite
#610), and Sunday will take place at Chicago Film Archives during the day
and Cinema Borealis (1550 N Milwaukee Ave, 4th floor) in the evening.*

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Re: [Frameworks] Light meter apps

2019-08-05 Thread Julian Antos
I've been very happy with CineMeter.

I calibrate it against a Sekonic analog meter and it's shockingly accurate.
Though I would never show up on a set with it, it's very handy for shooting
home movies on the fly. There's also less of a learning curve than with an
analog meter, which to be honest is probably a bad thing in the long run!

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:12 PM Warren Cockerham 
wrote:

> Hey workers of the frame...
>
> I’m curious how many folks are using light meters on their phone as
> primary or secondary meters in lieu of the trusty analog meters. If so,
> care to share which apps?
>
> thanks a bunch,
> Warren
>
> - Tampa, FL
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Re: [Frameworks] Bolex 16mm camera repair recommendations

2019-06-28 Thread Julian Antos
Only used him once, but no complaints with Dr. Bolex!

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:58 PM casey herbert  wrote:

> Looking for a US resource for good, reliable Bolex 16 camera repairs.
> Suggestions? Thanks!
>
> Casey Herbert
> Chief Pixel Wrangler
> Flying Foto Factory, Inc.
> 9 1 9 . 4 9 0 . 1 3 7 0
> <http://www.flyingfoto.com>
> <http://instagram.com/pixelpsher>
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Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?

2019-03-20 Thread Julian Antos
t; Her dynamic energy is certainly a loss to the community.
> >>>
> >>> Dominic Angerame
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Ruth Hayes 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I just want to acknowledge Barbara Hammer’s passing, her influence on
> so
> >>> many experimental filmmakers, including myself, and her courage,
> >>> playfulness and indomitable spirit.
> >>>
> >>> Peace,
> >>>
> >>> Ruth Hayes
> >>>
> >>> http://www.randommotion.com
> >>>
> >>> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr
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> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: trevor adams 
> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Bcc:
> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:20:12 +
> >>> Subject: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
> >>> Hiya one'n all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
> >>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
> I'm
> >>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
> >>> helpful...
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Trevor Adams
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: Scott Dorsey 
> >>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Bcc:
> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:25:49 -0400
> >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
> >>> 5 seems optimistic.  Shoot a test.
> >>> --scott
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: Nicole Baker 
> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Bcc:
> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:12:57 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
> >>> I haven't tried print stock, but have played with film I made myself
> >>> (handmade emulsion applied to clear leader) and that is also rated at a
> >>> 5
> >>> (if that).  I would still absolutely take light readings, especially if
> >>> you're pointing at the light source, you might be surprised how much
> >>> light
> >>> it throws off.  Maybe try spot metering instead of ambient.  I find
> that
> >>> helps me "see" the scene the way the film might.
> >>> Post your results!  I'd love to see them.
> >>>
> >>> Nicole Elaine Baker
> >>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
> >>> Pacific Northwest College of Art
> >>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
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> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:20 AM trevor adams 
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> >>>>
> >>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
> >>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
> >>>> I'm
> >>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
> >>>> helpful...
> >>>> Thanks,
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[Frameworks] Free “junk” film

2019-03-10 Thread Julian Antos
We have a small box of film which is too damaged or incomplete to be useful
to us, but would be great for things like scratch animation or decorating a
Christmas tree. If anyone can use this please write to me off list. You
cover FedEx ground shipping.
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Re: [Frameworks] analog cinema machines

2018-06-08 Thread Julian Antos
We made a big ass list!

http://www.sprocketschool.org/wiki/List_of_projection_and_projectionists_in_film

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 9:15 AM Scott Dorsey  wrote:

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Re: [Frameworks] Customs duty for travelling with Bolex camera

2018-01-08 Thread Julian Antos
Took my Bolex to Japan and it was no trouble at all. I will also add that
the whole airport security experience is a dream there compared to the US.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:03 PM Alisa Berger 
wrote:

> Thanks a lot. Starting to feel relief :)))
>
>
> -
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2018-01-09 4:47 GMT+09:00 nemes gyula :
>
>> Dear Alisa,
>> I have the same experience as Pip, I luckily travelled with my Bolex to
>> Tokyo. Same it will be tomorrow to New Delhi... Good luck!
>> Gyula
>>
>>
>> 2018-01-08 16:39 GMT+01:00 Pip Chodorov :
>>
>>> Dear Alisa,
>>> I flew to Tokyo with my Bolex in hand luggage and nobody asked me any
>>> questions.
>>> If there is a problem just explain it's yours and not for sale, and at
>>> most they would write in your passport to be sure you leave with it.
>>> Pip Chodorov
>>>
>>>
>>> At 0:35 +0900 9/01/18, Alisa Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello dear frameworks list,
>>>>
>>>> I am travelling from Germany to Japan with a Bolex and did not have the
>>>> time to make a "Carnet" for the camera. Most of the other equipment is in
>>>> the carnet.
>>>> Do you have any experience with the custom house? Was there any
>>>> problems? Did you have to pay a fee? Did they let you travel?
>>>> What would you recommend me?
>>>> Thankyou in advance for any advice.
>>>>
>>>> Superbest,
>>>> Alisa
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles on film

2017-06-26 Thread Julian Antos
Agreed that shooting off an LCD monitor works shockingly well (just expect
to lose a roll experimenting with exposure, or shoot multiple exposures in
one roll). It won't look as good as optically done titles (mainly the
contrast will not be nearly as nice) but it gets the job done in a pinch.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:21 PM Jason Halprin  wrote:

> In all seriousness, I've made basic titles in B&W, with fades in FCP &
> Premiere in HD/2K/4K. Then I've shot them off the monitor screen with
> either Super8 or 16mm film, playing them back full-screen. Excellent
> results...if you get the camera centered and level.
>
> -Jason Halprin
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Phase flicker and print timing?

2017-05-08 Thread Julian Antos
LEDs really are the end of art as we know it!

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Christopher Ball  wrote:

> I never heard of such a thing.  It wouldn't work on a continuous printer,
> only on a step printer or optical printer.  The fastest way to deal with
> that now would be to digitize, fix and then print back to film (if film is
> your final medium)
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:54 PM, George Monteleone <
> georgemontele...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.  I was curious if 16mm lab printers are typically equipped with
>> any kind of "deflicker" mechanisms for footage that has phase flicker.
>>  Obviously there are digital tools for such a thing, but for printing
>> directly from negative, was curious if color timers have any tricks up
>> their sleeves to cope with these issues.
>>
>> It's Bolex footage, so imperfect motor sync partially to blame; LEDs
>> and/or sodium vapor lamps were also part of the issue, I think.
>>
>> Thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] Film & Analog Video Gear in Chicago - Make Me an Offer I Can't Refuse

2017-01-26 Thread Julian Antos
oops, didn't mean to send to the group.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Julian Antos  wrote:

> Hi LJ,
>
> I can use the splicer and the shatner film. Is $75 ok?
>
> Best,
>
> Julian
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:48 PM, LJ Frezza  wrote:
>
>> hello framedwellers. i've got a sizable lot of celluloid film & analog
>> video gear for your purchasing pleasure:
>>
>> 2 Moviescop Desktop 16mm Film Viewers (one needs a new lightbulb - but
>> buy them both in case you need parts down the road)
>> 1 Samsung VHS Camcorder (battery's shot, but works with wall adapter -
>> pretty much every battery for cameras of this era is dead at this point)
>> 1 Panasonic Handicam Hi-8 Camcorder (FREE, but maybe non-working)
>> 1 Singer Instaload 16mm Film Projector (formerly owned by the NYC Board
>> of Education)
>> 1 Set of Film Rewinds (Made in Chicago, Illinois)
>> 1 Pristine 16mm Guillotine Splicer (Made in Italy - Molto Bene)
>> 1 16mm Cement Splicer (for conforming film negatives - very pro)
>> 1 Digital Video Mixer (from a bygone era - lots of nostalgic transitions)
>> 2 16mm Split Reels
>> 3 16mm Conventional Reels
>> 4 Sets of Stereo Computer Speakers (speak up, i can't hear you)
>> 1 16mm Film Titled "Universe" (featuring sick animations and narration by 
>> William
>> Shatner <https://www.facebook.com/williamshatner/>)
>>
>> also for leisure:
>> 1 SNES Video Game Console (with 2 controllers, as well as Super Mario
>> All-Stars & Donkey Kong Country)
>>
>> MAKE ME AN OFFER ON ANYTHING YOU WANT.
>> my primary motivation isn't turning a profit, so much as making sure this
>> gear gets to a good home (having said that, i'm underemployed, so money is
>> nice).
>>
>> see you soon.
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Film & Analog Video Gear in Chicago - Make Me an Offer I Can't Refuse

2017-01-26 Thread Julian Antos
Hi LJ,

I can use the splicer and the shatner film. Is $75 ok?

Best,

Julian

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:48 PM, LJ Frezza  wrote:

> hello framedwellers. i've got a sizable lot of celluloid film & analog
> video gear for your purchasing pleasure:
>
> 2 Moviescop Desktop 16mm Film Viewers (one needs a new lightbulb - but buy
> them both in case you need parts down the road)
> 1 Samsung VHS Camcorder (battery's shot, but works with wall adapter -
> pretty much every battery for cameras of this era is dead at this point)
> 1 Panasonic Handicam Hi-8 Camcorder (FREE, but maybe non-working)
> 1 Singer Instaload 16mm Film Projector (formerly owned by the NYC Board of
> Education)
> 1 Set of Film Rewinds (Made in Chicago, Illinois)
> 1 Pristine 16mm Guillotine Splicer (Made in Italy - Molto Bene)
> 1 16mm Cement Splicer (for conforming film negatives - very pro)
> 1 Digital Video Mixer (from a bygone era - lots of nostalgic transitions)
> 2 16mm Split Reels
> 3 16mm Conventional Reels
> 4 Sets of Stereo Computer Speakers (speak up, i can't hear you)
> 1 16mm Film Titled "Universe" (featuring sick animations and narration by 
> William
> Shatner <https://www.facebook.com/williamshatner/>)
>
> also for leisure:
> 1 SNES Video Game Console (with 2 controllers, as well as Super Mario
> All-Stars & Donkey Kong Country)
>
> MAKE ME AN OFFER ON ANYTHING YOU WANT.
> my primary motivation isn't turning a profit, so much as making sure this
> gear gets to a good home (having said that, i'm underemployed, so money is
> nice).
>
> see you soon.
>
> -LJ
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[Frameworks] 89mm (1993)

2015-12-11 Thread Julian Antos
Does anyone on this list know where to track down a 35mm print of this
short film?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109023/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

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Re: [Frameworks] A&B material

2015-12-01 Thread Julian Antos
Have you checked with ORWO?

On Tuesday, December 1, 2015, eric stewart  wrote:

> Hello Frameworkers,
>
> I am preparing to conform my negative.  Kodak no longer makes the acetate
> black leader with emulsion.  I am wondering if anyone on this list has any
> experience with sourcing alternatives or advice for what to use for the
> checker boarding when i prepare my A&B rolls.
>
> thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Eiki with looper scratching the film

2015-11-01 Thread Julian Antos
Looking at those pictures I would guess it's being scratched in the "brain"
of the looper (where the film comes out of the center).

First step is to take some virgin film and loop it through ONLY the
projector so you can determine it is definitely the looper that's
scratching it.

Are all the rollers on projector and looper turning freely?



On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Roger D. Wilson 
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> Looks like a projector scratch happening in gate area but it might be from
> too much tension coming from looper. Does it feel like there is a lot of
> tension at the point where film first enters projector?
>
> Roger D. Wilson
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>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:05 AM -0800, "Johannes Schrems" <
> johannesschr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> i am trying this setup for the first time. after projecting the first
> 5-6 loops i got this green lines on some parts.
> anyone with looper experience?
>
> or is it the projector?
> thanx for help
>
> regards
> johannes
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Re: [Frameworks] bolex/camera repair training

2015-03-19 Thread Julian Antos
Likewise!

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Caryn Cline  wrote:

> Hello Judith and Frameworkers,
>
> Actually, I'd be interested in reading replies to Judith's query on this
> site.  (I have done a little Bolex repairing myself, but I'd love to learn
> more.)
>
> Thanks!
>
> CC
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:55 PM, judith Philips 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>
>> I'm interested in learning camera maintenance and repair.  My main
>> interest is in bolex cameras, though a working knowledge of still cameras
>> would certainly be useful.
>>
>> Does anyone have any leads, or advice on how best to acquire these
>> skills?  (through apprentice ships, training programs, etc.)
>>
>> If so, please contact me off list.  I'd be very grateful for any
>> knowledge you might like to share.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Judith
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[Frameworks] Looking for ~250' of Kodak 3242

2015-03-15 Thread Julian Antos
Hi all,

Would anyone on the list be able to spare about 250' of Kodak 3242 stock?

Thanks!

Julian

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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 to 35mm blowup?

2015-03-14 Thread Julian Antos
Does that mean no 16>35 as well?

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:51 PM, mrktosc  wrote:

> Colorlab no longer does any optical work.  But thanks Kevin for Andy
> Busti's info (and Andy himself)!
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> > On Mar 14, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
> >
> > I think Colorlab can do it, but I suspect you'll pay a big setup charge
> > for the optical printer since it's not something they do every day.
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Re: [Frameworks] Any ideas for 16mm film can storage that's not just piles around the house?

2015-02-17 Thread Julian Antos
If you're going to store films vertically, make sure they all have a tight
wind or they will warp over time (this is less of a problem if the films
are used regularly).

Ideally, acetate films would be stored horizontally in archival (Tuscan,
Stil Design) cans.

Lots of good information on storing films at home here:
http://www.filmforever.org/

"metro" wire shelves are great for storing film. Affordable, lightweight,
and sturdy, and you can add wheels to the bottom.

http://www.uline.com/Grp_263/Wire-Shelving?pricode=WJ931&AdKeyword=metro%20shelves&AdMatchtype=e&gclid=CPS5i9G36cMCFZE0aQodUrYAjA&gclsrc=aw.ds

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> There are commercial steel racks from Neumade that are very nice and often
> show up cheaply now that movie theatres are abandoning film.
>
> You could make your own rack with 1" black iron pipe and pipe fittings.
> Paint
> it with automotive lacquer and it will look nice.
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[Frameworks] HIGH SCHOOL workflow

2015-01-14 Thread Julian Antos
Hi all,

Does anyone have any information on the workflow used for Frederick
Wiseman's HIGH SCHOOL? Specifically interested in whether it was shot on
negative or reversal, and whether release prints would have been made from
an internegative or directly from AB rolls.

I projected what I thought was a very good 16mm print of the film for a
class screening and one of the students commented that it looked "so much
worse" than a Brakhage short (Window Water Baby Moving) we ran on Blu-Ray,
so I'm trying to offer a better explanation to the instructor than "oh,
it's 16mm." The print I ran was recently struck, a little soft, a little
light contrast, but certainly not objectionable, and projected under the
best possible circumstances - I don't think it came close to being called a
bad print. Since this WAS a recently struck print, I wonder if anyone can
comment on what the original prints looked like, or what 35mm blowup prints
looked like.

Of course, nobody says anything when they're shown 16mm at its best, but
there you have it....

Any input welcome!

Julian


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Re: [Frameworks] Buying Scopitones

2014-12-11 Thread Julian Antos
Whatever you do, please degauss your projector before running these. Only
takes one pass through a magnetized projector to ruin a beautiful print.
There are lots of Scopitones around in great shape and in IB tech. Good
luck!

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> Put an ad in Classic Images magazine, or ask on 16mmfilmtalk.com.  There
> are a lot of people out there who have collected Scopitones and you may
> find someone willing to loan you sets.  Note that there are various
> different sound formats for them.
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Re: [Frameworks] need to give away some film prints, anyone interested?

2014-10-15 Thread Julian Antos
Hi Charles,

I'm interested if still available.

Thanks!

Julian

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Charles Chadwick <
infiltration...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all, I'm trying to clear up some space, and I've got a couple cool
> film prints that I want to get rid of. One is a color sound 16mm print
> (1200') of a fire safety/burn care film from Pyramid Films, it's got a lot
> of footage of burn wounds (of course), medical diagrams of them, and of
> course, people getting injured from everything from electrocution to just
> flat out being lit on fire. The second is a short super8 silent reel (about
> 200') of movie clips from the Hollywood film Sodom and Gomorrah, made in
> the 1960's. Comes in a vintage picture box. If you want to watch it, you
> can see it here (I put the transfer of it online):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE5djefyhSY . I'll throw in a DVD copy of
> the burn safety film, since I got an extra one I didn't need, and burn a
> copy of the DVD transfer of the Sodom and Gomorrah DVD for an extra $2 if
> you like. All for free! Just pay me $12.65 for priority mail shipping, and
> I'll send them to you, or pick them up if you're in the San Jose, CA area.
> Please email me off list (at infiltration...@gmail.com) if interested.
> I'd like to find these a home with someone who'd use them well instead of
> ebay or craigslist. Thanks.
>
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Re: [Frameworks] looper question

2014-10-12 Thread Julian Antos
Running anything over 10 minutes I would recommend using a failsafe system
or have the projector under constant surveillance. The more film you have
on there the more likely it is to fail and one "brain wrap" will destroy
your projector.

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Pip Chodorov 
wrote:

> Hi Amanda,
> It's not a motorized looper is it?
> The projector should be pulling film in the front as fast as it's spitting
> it out the back.
> Most loopers are driven by the projector so the only problem would be if
> there is too much torque or friction or if the film is too heavy and the
> projector is having trouble pulling.
> In that case a wider diameter can be a good idea.
> Another idea would be to load several prints together (making a 30 or 40
> minute loop) if you have prints available and if the looper is big enough.
> -Pip
>
>
> At 13:49 -0300 12/10/14, Amanda Christie wrote:
>
>> I wrapped the film another time, and adjusted the rollers and arms a bit
>> so that there was no slack... within 40 minutes... 4 cycles of the film, it
>> was back to dragging on the floor again
>>
>> my guess is that the loop is just tightening a bit with each cycle, thus
>> freeing up more film slack outside of the box does this make sense?
>> shall i just keep adding a loop, waiting for it to slack off, then add
>> another loop again? until it stops needing more loops?
>>
>> i'm suprised by the variation of the slack within the same cycle and
>> am not sure what causes that... it's a 10 minute film, and there are 4
>> splices (maybe 5) in the print. the print was printed in 2012 (maybe
>> 2011) and ran for 6 weeks in another installation without this
>> problem
>>
>> would the multiple splices cause the slack variation?  right now, it just
>> went all the way up taught, far away from the floor, and then dipped back
>> down all the way to the floor
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Re: [Frameworks] looper question

2014-10-12 Thread Julian Antos
take a couple of full days running for it
>>> to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it
>>> started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so
>>> eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take
>>> up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate
>>> extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up
>>> to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it
>>> would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at
>>> the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so
>>> i stopped it, and removed that external loop again.  now, once again it is
>>> too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric
>>> though!)
>>>
>>> should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance,
>>> or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did
>>> yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so
>>> that it's not quite so tight)
>>>
>>> is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few
>>> splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions?  would i be better off
>>> with a brand new print?
>>>
>>> or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place?
>>>
>>> any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated.
>>> thank so much!
>>>
>>>
>>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] looper question

2014-10-10 Thread Julian Antos
Here's an absurdly terrible picture of the installation I was talking
about. Film ran perfectly for several weeks with no roller or tension or
anything directly below the projector, then after a few weeks (print was
changed once at this point) that "slack" below the projector started to
shrink, so we added an additional roller beneath the projector, which
worked ok but wore the prints out prematurely because more tension was
being put on the film. We were eventually able to minimize that by
constantly cleaning and exercising all the rollers and bearings in the
looper, but it was still never as good as the first few weeks when the
looper was brand new. Humidity seems to play a big part in how well the
looper functions (same is true of regular platters) so if you're above,
say, 50% RH you may want to throw a dehumidifier in with the projector for
good measure.

A friend of mine told me RFS has a new looper with a motorized platter
which works much better. Even with all these little problems it's pretty
impressive that a print can survive over 1000 runs and various twists and
turns and still look pretty good.

[image: Inline image 1]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Julian Antos <
jul...@northwestchicagofilmsociety.org> wrote:

> Assuming you're using a Robert Film Services looper I would double check
> that all the rollers and bearings are spinning freely. These things can be
> a pain: I installed one that ran perfectly for a few weeks and then started
> having problems with slack (we switched the print out every two weeks, so
> it wasn't an issue with print age or wear). Eventually we got it back to
> good operating condition but it took a lot of troubleshooting: adding extra
> rollers after the film left the projector, cleaning the rollers and
> exercising the bearings, etc. Another thing to check is that the projector
> isn't leaking oil anywhere on the film and the film path is spotless. These
> things work great when everything is *perfect*
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Amanda Christie <
> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>
>> i do indeed have permutable arms!
>>
>> the crazy thing is how much the slack varies within one run of the
>> loop it will touch the ground, but then go up and go so tight that it
>> almost jams that's the part that i'm struggling with
>>
>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>> 
>> 506-871-2062
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>>
>>
>> On 2014-10-10, at 3:40 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote:
>>
>> I would wrap the film before it touches the ground. The pain is finding
>> that you need more slack to get the loop to fit. :(  Do you have
>> permutatable arms? (aka: you can change the distance in order to take-up
>> slack?)
>>
>> K.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Amanda Christie <
>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Karl!
>>>
>>> to clarify... am i on the right track... to keep waiting... or to keep
>>> adjusting?
>>>
>>> the spaghetti dance on the floor pains me to watch... i want to grab a
>>> ladder and wrap another loop around the outside... , but it was too tight
>>> when i did that last time, no matter where i put the rollers or the slack
>>> control.
>>>
>>> it is indeed an RFS platter my instinct is to adjust... but I was
>>> told to wait a bit and watch it... so painful to watch the spaghetti
>>> though it only seems to be getting looser not tighter.
>>>
>>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>>> 
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>>>
>>> On 2014-10-10, at 3:06 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote:
>>>
>>> You are on the right track.  In my experience you want the platter as
>>> level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance.  Never let
>>> the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a
>>> point in the run (not fun).  I've had instances where I have to constantly
>>> find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to
>>> get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear
>>> feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking.
>>>
>>> Best of luck!
>>>
>>> Karl.
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, 

Re: [Frameworks] looper question

2014-10-10 Thread Julian Antos
external loop again.  now, once again it is
>>> too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric
>>> though!)
>>>
>>> should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance,
>>> or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did
>>> yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so
>>> that it's not quite so tight)
>>>
>>> is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few
>>> splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions?  would i be better off
>>> with a brand new print?
>>>
>>> or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place?
>>>
>>> any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated.
>>> thank so much!
>>>
>>>
>>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>>> 
>>> 506-871-2062
>>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca
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[Frameworks] ORWO Interview

2014-10-07 Thread Julian Antos
Hi Frameworks,

Thought some of you might enjoy this interview we did with George Campbell
at ORWO North America.

http://www.northwestchicagofilmsociety.org/2014/10/07/orwo-at-the-end-of-the-world/

Best,

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[Frameworks] 35mm workprint from super 16?

2014-09-19 Thread Julian Antos
Hello list,

Will any labs do a 35mm color workprint from a super 16 negative at rate
comparable to that of a 35mm workprint from 35mm neg? Just trying to do a
little camera test and the rates that I'm seeing are all for timed answer
prints, which I don't need at the moment.

Thanks!

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Re: [Frameworks] Followup: Projector, Moviescope, Guillotine Splicer

2014-09-14 Thread Julian Antos
One million dollars for everything. Is this an auction site now?

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Frameworkers,
>
> Having received over a dozen inquiries for the following three items, I'm
> going to sell it to whomever can afford the most. The prices listed below
> reflect the current highest offer:
>
> - Kodak Pageant 250S Projector  *$155*
> - Moviescope  *$55*
> - Guillotine Splicer  *$45*
>
> Please let me know what you would like to pay at your earliest
> convenience. I'd like to settle everything within 24 hours.
>
> Best, Ken 415-648-1474 (*landline only)
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Re: [Frameworks] NFL Films' Equipment

2014-09-09 Thread Julian Antos
Works fine for me. Has anyone bought any of these or successfully made
offers? So sad to see these on the market ... the end of yet another
wonderful tradition.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Francisco Torres 
wrote:

> dead link...
>
> 2014-09-09 13:53 GMT-04:00 Warren Cockerham :
>
>> Hi all..
>>
>> There's a ton of NFL Films' 16mm gear on ebay..
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=mccominc&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X16mm&_nkw=16mm&_sacat=0
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Re: [Frameworks] Free industrial films

2014-08-11 Thread Julian Antos
OK, these have been claimed!


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Julian Antos <
jul...@northwestchicagofilmsociety.org> wrote:

> Don't get too excited.
>
> Several months ago I bought a pile of mechanical engineering films from a
> collector, and they've been sitting around collecting dust ever since.
> They're all in rusty old cans and some (but not all) have developed Vinegar
> Syndrome (I won't include any that seem severe, most are still totally
> projectable/fine). Mostly from the 40s/50s with beautiful contrast. Most
> are quite boring. I'm keeping one or two, but I really don't need this
> stuff and I can't bear to throw it away. Hence, free.
>
> Maybe you can repurpose this material and make art. Maybe you can watch it
> with your friends. Maybe it can collect dust in YOUR home or archive now.
> My hope is that someone will take it and do something creative with it.
> Maybe teach 12 year olds how to use a splicer. But either way: free.
>
> There are about 25 reels, 800-1200' each. Shipping is NOT free but should
> be cheap enough via Media Mail or you pick up in Chicago. I can toss the
> cans so the box won't weigh too much, if you wish.
>
> Some examples of titles, some have to do with boating, which may be
> interesting:
>
> PLAIN INDEXING AND CUTTING A SPUR
> ROUGH FACING TURNING DRILLING
> ROUGH FACING AND BORING AND TURNING A SHOULDER
> FACING, TURNING, BORING, GROOVING, AND CHAMFERING
> PREPARING AND SETTING KEEL BLOCKS + CRADLE
>
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[Frameworks] Free industrial films

2014-08-11 Thread Julian Antos
Don't get too excited.

Several months ago I bought a pile of mechanical engineering films from a
collector, and they've been sitting around collecting dust ever since.
They're all in rusty old cans and some (but not all) have developed Vinegar
Syndrome (I won't include any that seem severe, most are still totally
projectable/fine). Mostly from the 40s/50s with beautiful contrast. Most
are quite boring. I'm keeping one or two, but I really don't need this
stuff and I can't bear to throw it away. Hence, free.

Maybe you can repurpose this material and make art. Maybe you can watch it
with your friends. Maybe it can collect dust in YOUR home or archive now.
My hope is that someone will take it and do something creative with it.
Maybe teach 12 year olds how to use a splicer. But either way: free.

There are about 25 reels, 800-1200' each. Shipping is NOT free but should
be cheap enough via Media Mail or you pick up in Chicago. I can toss the
cans so the box won't weigh too much, if you wish.

Some examples of titles, some have to do with boating, which may be
interesting:

PLAIN INDEXING AND CUTTING A SPUR
ROUGH FACING TURNING DRILLING
ROUGH FACING AND BORING AND TURNING A SHOULDER
FACING, TURNING, BORING, GROOVING, AND CHAMFERING
PREPARING AND SETTING KEEL BLOCKS + CRADLE

thanks!

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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-28 Thread Julian Antos
em Serdar  wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Framers,
>> >
>> >   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a
>> screening with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of
>> you folk have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on
>> it). As said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch
>> of you if any, but if you have, be in touch.
>> >
>> >  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!)
>> - I presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs,
>> etc? Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
>> >
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Re: [Frameworks] Modern 16mm features, distributed on film

2014-07-20 Thread Julian Antos
Wow! BATMAN BEGINS in 16mm!




On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Ed Inman  wrote:

>
>
> John, if by "mainstream" you mean new release major studio films available
> for rent on 16mm you could still get about everything in the 90s but things
> fell off very rapidly after 2000, and by 2006 it was really the end of the
> road. The last one to be released on 16mm as best as I can tell was "Cars"
> the animated Disney feature from 2006. Here is the last list of 16mm
> titles ever available from Swank Motion Pictures:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20071109223539/http://www.swank.com/college/16mmrelease.html
>It's worth noting that in the 90s besides Swank and Criterion (which
> represented the big studios) a lot of indy distributors also offered their
> films in 16mm. Some included October Films, Samuel Goldwyn, New Yorker,
> etc. I've often wondered what happened to all those prints.  --Ed
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 40 Frames
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Modern 16mm features, distributed on film
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:08 PM, John Woods  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Alain, while I'm primarily interested in experimental or artists films,
> > I'd open up to mainstream films too. I'm more broadly interested in the
> > state of 16mm film as an exhibition format and not necessarily
> > experimental. If Spielberg decided to distribute his latest on 16mm, then
> > that would count. I guess I'm biased in my thinking that a 16mm print
> > nowadays is an indulgence for the creator and few mainstream filmmakers
> are
> > going to convince their distributor to pick up the bill for the print.
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Re: [Frameworks] Modern 16mm features, distributed on film

2014-07-18 Thread Julian Antos
MEEK'S CUTOFF was shot and released on 35mm, through a fairly major studio
(a personal favorite, and the prints looked great!). There have been
several independent and mainstream features shot on 16mm and super 16 in
the last couple years but these were all blown up to 35 (via 2K DIs).


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Abigail Severance 
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> There have maybe been more than one thinks, particularly if we include
> independent narrative films in addition to avant grade work. I believe
> Lukas Moodysson's CONTAINER was exhibited on 16mm. I suppose Kelly
> Reichardt's MEEK'S CUTOFF was released digitally even though it was shot on
> standard 16mm, but I'm not certain.
>
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[Frameworks] Konvas Cameras

2014-05-31 Thread Julian Antos
Has anyone on here had much experience with Konvas 35mm cameras? Curious to
know the pros/cons. Seems like this is the cheapest way to actually own a
35mm motion picture camera and I would like something to experiment with.
I'm assuming they're MOS only but has anyone here used them to shoot sync
sound?

Has anyone dealt with moscowphoto on eBay? They have a few of these up.

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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm looper, where to rent in Europe

2014-05-14 Thread Julian Antos
If you're looping 20 minutes of film be careful about what projector you're
using. A little Eiki portable will have a hard time pulling that much film
through the looper and the film or projector may be damaged.


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Marco Poloni  wrote:

> Confirm. I think Eidotech is the best place, and they are super
> professional.
>
> On 14 May 2014 11:53, Diana Arce  wrote:
> > Eidotech in Belrin has great loopers for rent.
> >
> > http://www.eidotech.de/
> >
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> > On 13.05.2014, at 21:27, 40 Frames  wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://16mmdirectory.org/projectors/film-loopers
> >
> > Alain
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Raha Raissnia 
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> >>
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> 16mm
> >> film in Europe ?
> >> The place in Amsterdam where I have rented from before only has small
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> >> and I don't know of any other place.
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> > 5232 North Williams Avenue
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[Frameworks] Best route Reversal Film >> Release print?

2014-04-24 Thread Julian Antos
Can someone recommend the best workflow for edited B+W reversal to positive
"release print" ? This is just for some home movies I am cutting together,
nothing too fancy, no sound. I'd just like to have a projection print so
I'm not screening the original.

Thanks!

Julian

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Re: [Frameworks] Head by bob rafelson

2014-03-31 Thread Julian Antos
Columbia titles are handled by Sony Repertory:
http://www.movingimage.us/visit/calendar/2013/05/18/detail/the-monkees-in-head

Or by Swank if you are a non-theatrical venue.

I am 99% sure they do not distribute it despite being the original
copyright holders, though they may be able to point you in the right
direction, as would MOMI.


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:47 PM, חן שינברג wrote:

>
> Do you know by chance who distributes Columbia pictures films ?
> Chen
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
> ב-31 במרס 2014, בשעה 16:37, Jon Behrens  כתב/ה:
>
> Hi Chen
>
> You might want to try Columbia pictures - I am pretty sure they still have
> prints.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "חן שינברג" < 
> chen...@netvision.net.il> wrote:
>
>
> Hello frameworkers,
> Does anybody know who distributes a 35 mm print or Dcp of the film "Head"
> by Bob Rafelson (1968), or where can I find information about it's
> distribution.
> although it's not a pure experimental film , it's a film with expetimental
> influences made in Hollywood.
> Thank you very much,
>
> Chen Sheinberg
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
> ב-30 במרס 2014, בשעה 17:28, Francisco Torres < 
> fjtorre...@gmail.com> כתב/ה:
>
> The Eclair rules!
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Dick Enersen < 
> 
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>
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Re: [Frameworks] Head by bob rafelson

2014-03-31 Thread Julian Antos
Last I checked this wonderful film was more or less out of circulation, BUT
a quick search shows that MOMI is showing it next month. I would ask them:
http://www.movingimage.us/visit/calendar/2013/05/18/detail/the-monkees-in-head


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Jon Behrens  wrote:

> Hi Chen
>
> You might want to try Columbia pictures - I am pretty sure they still have
> prints.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "חן שינברג"  wrote:
>
>
> Hello frameworkers,
> Does anybody know who distributes a 35 mm print or Dcp of the film "Head"
> by Bob Rafelson (1968), or where can I find information about it's
> distribution.
> although it's not a pure experimental film , it's a film with expetimental
> influences made in Hollywood.
> Thank you very much,
>
> Chen Sheinberg
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
> ב-30 במרס 2014, בשעה 17:28, Francisco Torres  כתב/ה:
>
> The Eclair rules!
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Dick Enersen < 
> d...@enersen.org> wrote:
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced portabe video projector that's adequate for showing films?

2014-01-25 Thread Julian Antos
My parents have one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Epson-V11H562020-PowerLite-Cinema-Projector/dp/B00EU9V3VW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1390677818&sr=8-6&keywords=1080+projector

It's surprisingly good. Color is fine, image is very sharp, and it's under
1K. Their screen is about 10' wide, native 1.85




On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:16 PM, David Tetzlaff  wrote:

> I'm not up on the latest projector technology. I'm
> wondering-if/hoping-that technical advances have created an answer to the
> question above.
>
> Historically, you could divide video projectors into three types:
>
> 1. LCD: bright, with vivid but typically wildly inaccurate color rendition
> — both in hue and (over)saturation, very poor contrast ratio, and utterly
> unable to render monochrome images correctly... designed to project
> computer screens, good for that, not much else.
>
> 2. 1-chip DLP: not so bright, color accurate but a little washed out,
> pretty good contrast (for a video projector, anyway) but subject to
> generating flashes of extremely distracting moire due to the rotating color
> wheel's inability to deal with quick changes in image brightness at cuts.
>
> 3. 3-chip DLP: very nice image in every way, but big, heavy and EXPENSIVE.
>
> My old thought was that perhaps LCD technology would improve to the point
> where the contrast ratio and color accuracy (especially with monochrome)
> would improve to the point of minimum acceptability for film screening. I
> doubt that 1-chip DLPs could have overcome the color-wheel-moire problem.
> But either way, I don't know what has actually happened in terms of the
> current market.
>
> I'm not seeking anything that would be bright enough for even a small
> auditorium, but rather a living-room/small-classroom size venue with
> seating room for 10-25 people (who can be fairly tightly packed together if
> need be). I would hope for at least 720P resolution.
>
> Reports on any experiences with recent projector models would be welcome,
> positive or negative.
>
> And by "reasonably-priced" I mean under $1,000.
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Re: [Frameworks] ONE Shot of a Polar Bear

2013-10-01 Thread Julian Antos
Hi Noe,

You may wish to reach out to the Coca-Cola corporation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0D3PusOjkE

(Kidding)

Julian


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Noe  wrote:

> Greetings fellow frameworkers,
>
> A friend of mine needs ONE Shot of a Polar Bear with its cub(s) for a
> production in Spain. They  require an HD 1920x1080 clip. If the clip is in
> higher resolution, even better. The shot has to be original, not from
> Planet Earth, of course.
>
> Please contact me if you own this footage or know someone who does.
>
> There is a considerable monetary compensation.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Noé Rodríguez
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Re: [Frameworks] Lipsett, Night tide and Lonesome

2013-08-24 Thread Julian Antos
I don't think EmGee is around anymore. Try contacting these guys:
http://www.nilesfilmmuseum.org/ - I believe they have a lot of his stuff
now.

Print quality was all over the map, but generally pretty awful.


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:09 PM, חן שינברג  wrote:

> Thank you Andy and all the others!
> Do you know What is the condition of em gee's copies generally?
> Chen
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
> ב-24 באוג 2013, בשעה 16:55, Andy Ditzler  כתב/ה:
>
> Following up on Roger's suggestion, Em Gee lists Very Nice, Very Nice,
> 23-Skidoo, 21-87, and A Trip Down Memory Lane in their catalog.
> <http://emgee.freeyellow.com/>http://emgee.freeyellow.com/
>
> Andy Ditzler
> <http://www.filmlove.org>www.filmlove.org
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Andy Ditzler < 
> a...@andyditzler.com> wrote:
>
>> MoMA lists Lipsett's "Very Nice, Very Nice" in their rental catalog: 
>> <http://www.moma.org/learn/resources/circulatingfilm#aboutcircfilm>
>> http://www.moma.org/learn/resources/circulatingfilm#aboutcircfilm
>>
>> Not sure whether they have others of his.
>>
>> Andy Ditzler
>> <http://www.filmlove.org>www.filmlove.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Chen Sheinberg <
>> chen...@netvision.net.il> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear frameworkers,
>>>
>>> Does anybody know who distributes the films of Arthur Lipsett?
>>>
>>> And who distributes “Night Tide”  (1961) by Curtis Harrington  and
>>> “Lonesome” (1928) by Paul Fejos (1928)?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much,
>>>
>>> Chen Sheinberg
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