[Frameworks] 16mm Camera In The Fridge

[alex . mccarron]

Hey Guys,

So I'm looking for a way to keep film in a camera for awhile in an apartment 
that sometimes gets pretty warm. I'm wondering how bad of an idea it'd be to 
keep the camera in the fridge.

I'm working on a project that mostly involves stills but also some motion, I'd 
like to able to keep exposed film in my Scoopic possibly over the course of a 
week or two if not longer. Any ideas?

Thanks, 
Alex McCarron
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Re: [Frameworks] Traders? Sellers? Broken Scoopics? Boulex Lenses?

[Alex McCarron]

It has some nicks and scratches. I rolled the dice on a cheap "as is" ebay
posting. I usually don't see anything wrong in developed footage but at
certain f-stops and focal lengths you do see the flaws in the lens. At the
end of the roll I'm shooting now I'm going to do a thorough test and if
anyone is interested I can share the results. Right now I'm just putting
the feelers out if anyone wants to me reshuffle my gear situation.

On Tuesday, July 31, 2012, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote:

>
> On 2012-07-31, at 2:30 PM, alex.mccar...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > So I've had a Scoopic 16M with a jacked up lens and a Bolex Rex-5
> without lenses for awhile and I think it's about time to solve either
> problem.
> >
> > Does anyone have:
> > A broken Scoopic with a well cared for lens?
> >
> > OR
> >
> > A need for a Scoopic with a jacked up lens (that still takes great
> pictures most of the time) and either C-Mount lenses or enough cash to buy
> some in exchange?
> >
> > Alex
>
>
> Could you please explain the term "jacked-up lens". What does this mean?
>
> Jean-Louis
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[Frameworks] Traders? Sellers? Broken Scoopics? Boulex Lenses?

[alex . mccarron]

Hey,

So I've had a Scoopic 16M with a jacked up lens and a Bolex Rex-5 without 
lenses for awhile and I think it's about time to solve either problem.

Does anyone have:
A broken Scoopic with a well cared for lens?

OR

A need for a Scoopic with a jacked up lens (that still takes great pictures 
most of the time) and either C-Mount lenses or enough cash to buy some in 
exchange?

Alex
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Re: [Frameworks] Please help

[alex . mccarron]

It's a movie me and my auto-correct are writing together.

Full disclosure: I am a young crank and I would love to have an esoteric 
conversation about reversal vs. negative but it saddens me that all web 
communities do this, turn into stuffy cohabitations with people you used to 
enjoy. 

If the galleries and theaters don't want experimental film surely places like 
this are the future and we should find some way to let dumb jokes pass by 
without comment.

I will take my comments off the air.

Always,
Alexander

On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:25 AM, elizabeth mcmahon  wrote:

> "Kustom Karen Kommandos" Now THAT'S funny :- )
>  
> Thanks, Alex, for a pithy and objective breakdown of this devolving thread. 
> And BTW, David, I do believe that stick up my ass is permanent; alas, I would 
> have had it removed long ago.
>  
> Elizabeth
> From: "alex.mccar...@gmail.com" 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Please help
> 
> Alright, so our complaints about one e-mail to Frameworks are (in sequence):
> 
> 1. I'm afraid someone is actually go to send money to bring Kenneth Anger 
> back from the Astral Plane.
> 2. We should be more reverent when talking about the man who made Kustom 
> Karen Kommandos.
> 3. This is not the place for humorous e-mails because we are all very serious 
> professionals and we're losing precious inbox space to conversations that is 
> 90% arguments about one e-mail.
> 4. We are big enough nerds to enjoy e-mails in the voice of obscure film 
> makers, this one was just not funny though and we're upset about it anyway.
> 
> I don't post much but that's partly because I don't read much because so many 
> of these threads decend into useless pedantry and people saying ditto. That's 
> what wastes my time.
> 
> And I did find the original e-mail funny. It was actually a fun moment on the 
> list of old cranks arguing about the esoteric merits of Kodak vs. Orwo.
> 
> Always,
> Alexander
> 
> On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:30 AM, Tim Halloran  wrote:
> 
>> This. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:50 PM, carli...@aol.com wrote:
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>>> 
>>> The problem I had with the original was, that ... it wasn't funny. Or 
>>> creative or clever or anything else. It just sat there.
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Re: [Frameworks] Please help

[alex . mccarron]

Alright, so our complaints about one e-mail to Frameworks are (in sequence):

1. I'm afraid someone is actually go to send money to bring Kenneth Anger back 
from the Astral Plane.
2. We should be more reverent when talking about the man who made Kustom Karen 
Kommandos.
3. This is not the place for humorous e-mails because we are all very serious 
professionals and we're losing precious inbox space to conversations that is 
90% arguments about one e-mail.
4. We are big enough nerds to enjoy e-mails in the voice of obscure film 
makers, this one was just not funny though and we're upset about it anyway.

I don't post much but that's partly because I don't read much because so many 
of these threads decend into useless pedantry and people saying ditto. That's 
what wastes my time.

And I did find the original e-mail funny. It was actually a fun moment on the 
list of old cranks arguing about the esoteric merits of Kodak vs. Orwo.

Always,
Alexander

On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:30 AM, Tim Halloran  wrote:

> This. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:50 PM, carli...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The problem I had with the original was, that ... it wasn't funny. Or 
>> creative or clever or anything else. It just sat there.
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Re: [Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC

[Alex McCarron]

I thought about that and was following the other discussion about this. I'd
really like something that will look good when the stills are uploaded to a
website later.

So I guess I'm looking for the cheapest professional looking transfer in
NYC or a time consuming and cheap way of achieving that quality that is
maybe something like finding the stills and motion parts I want with a
steenbeck and hand scanning the 3600 individual frames myself?

Anything but a garage transfer is what I'm saying.

Technicolor is saying $0.48/ft with a student discount. Anyone think I can
beat that?

On Friday, June 22, 2012, Ryan Marino wrote:

> Why not have some one with an HD camera film it off of a screen or wall?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm sure a small sum or a 6 pack would be sufficient.
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:22 PM,  'cvml', 'alex.mccar...@gmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> So, I have a 100' roll of Tri-X 16mm that I want an HD transfer of. It's
>> mostly stills and little burst of video that I intended as sketches and
>> tests for a longer project.
>>
>> Anyone know of lab that's not gonna give me any jive about roll minimums
>> that I can take a subway to? Or any ad hoc solutions?
>>
>> Always,
>> Alex
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[Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC

[alex . mccarron]

So, I have a 100' roll of Tri-X 16mm that I want an HD transfer of. It's mostly 
stills and little burst of video that I intended as sketches and tests for a 
longer project.

Anyone know of lab that's not gonna give me any jive about roll minimums that I 
can take a subway to? Or any ad hoc solutions?

Always,
Alex
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[Frameworks] Cleaning a Scoopic

[Alex McCarron]

Hey all,

I took the pressure plate off my Scoopic today to clean the gate and saw
that the piece of glass beyond the shutter (the prism?) is filthy.

It's been two years since I had it cleaned and greased.

How bad of an idea would it be to try and clean the camera myself? Just as
a temporary solution before I can send it in to get serviced again?

Alex
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Re: [Frameworks] DVD to 16mm

[Alex McCarron]

Thanks all!

Allie

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Herb  wrote:

> If you go with this option, and would prefer a positive right away,
> invert the lcd image to negative. The OSX key combination is
> Control-Option-Command-8. Have done this with b&w stock and it turned
> out quite nicely.
>
> Herb
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Philippe Leonard 
> wrote:
> > Just shoot it with any film camera pointed to an LCD screen such as you
> > computer's.
> >
> > Best luck!
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Alex  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> So I want to get some footage from my Criterion DVD of L'Atalante onto
> >> some already grainy expired film. Quality isn't a big issue but I want
> to
> >> avoid that weird scan line effect.
> >>
> >> Any cheap suggestions?
> >>
> >> Ta,
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm stills in LA

[Alex McCarron]

Recipes for Disaster had a good sounding solution - photo enlarger pointed
at a 35mm camera with its lens taken off, use the internal light meter to
judge the correct shutter speed.

I tried it on my DSLR and it looked pretty good.

Allie

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> Hi!
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> I'm selling on on eBay right now.
>
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> http://www.dainakrumins.com
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> --- On *Tue, 1/3/12, Stephanie Hutin * wrote:
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>
> From: Stephanie Hutin 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm stills in LA
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 1:12 PM
>
>
> I am looking to purchase two Bolex cameras in LA.  Reflex would be best.
> Anyone selling one or two?  Where can I get these cameras in good working
> order?  Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Stephanie
>
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

[Alex McCarron]

I would really like you to be right and for there still be a reason for
distributors to release new films as prints just to cater to poor, hot
countries like India and that it would somehow be more affordable for
theaters in those countries to deal with the current distribution system
rather than whatever is coming next with digital projectors. I have to
admit I don't know that much about theaters in the third world but I'm
still skeptical that the poor will keep a more expensive way of
distributing films alive.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jay Hudson  wrote:

> now you're being facetious.  The only way to do it is through air
> conditioning.
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alex McCarron 
> wrote:
> > What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door?
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson  wrote:
> >>
> >> consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat.  It
> >> gets very hot in India.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in
> >> > business?
> >> > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be
> >> > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as
> >> > quality
> >> > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable
> >> > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the
> >> > future.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports.  They are generally based
> >> >> on first world arrogance.  Little theaters in India don't have to
> >> >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors.   Here it is certainly
> >> >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence
> >> >> > Service"...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4
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Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

[Alex McCarron]

What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door?

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson  wrote:

> consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat.  It
> gets very hot in India.
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron 
> wrote:
> > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in
> business?
> > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be
> > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as
> quality
> > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable
> > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the
> future.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson  wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports.  They are generally based
> >> on first world arrogance.  Little theaters in India don't have to
> >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors.   Here it is certainly
> >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence
> >> > Service"...
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4
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Re: [Frameworks] thought this might generate an interesting discussion

[Alex McCarron]

So much for 1st ACs.

The unions should start supporting celluloid. You'll always need human
beings for that. I know SAG was fucked over by the rise of digital cameras
in TV productions, I'm sure they'd be down.

Alex

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Sandra Maliga  wrote:

>
>
> > Isnt it easier just to focus? Or are people becoming so lazy that...?
>
> Seems to me it is just a matter of where and when you make your
> decisions.   Different styles and approaches in different situations
> call for different equipment. A light field camera is an option not a
> requirement.
>
>
> > Wonder what is next? Framing?
>
>   we already can reframe when editing
>
>
> > "As for focusing, we let our cameras do that for us".
>
> No you do it when editing.
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Article: The Last film camera

[Alex McCarron]

*Please, for the love of god, let's not have another long thread about
film's obsolescence. *

I would however like to know what this means for the price of second hand
cameras. Will forces even out? More people will want to dump them but more
people will also feel the panicked need to pick up the remaining working
ones or broken ones for parts?

Alex

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Tom Whiteside wrote:

>  It’s an interesting article, and thanks for posting. However, I must ask
> – how many people on Frameworks EVER bought a new Panavision or Aaton
> camera? Does it really make any difference to us if these cameras are no
> longer manufactured? The experimental film community has worked primarily
> with second hand equipment, almost exclusively in what is known as
> “sub-standard” formats, since mid-20th century. I drive a Honda, and if
> Maserati stopped producing cars today it really would not affect my ability
> to get around town.
>
> ** **
>
> The ongoing obsession with hand-wringing over film obsolescence
> (inevitable, but not immediate) seems misguided to me, simply a waste of
> energy. If you look into the future, can you see that you will still have
> food to eat and water to drink? I loved Kodachrome and it is a pity that I
> can no longer process the few rolls I recently found in the bottom of a box
> in my studio, but that is not going to stop me from making motion pictures.
>  
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> **-  **Tom Whiteside   Durham, NC
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:55 AM
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> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
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> http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/film-fading-to-black
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