Re: [Frameworks] 4K FCP
If you would like to continue to use FCPX, it will edit, render, and export 4K footage. Compressor was provided 4K codecs at least a year ago. Jessica * artist & poet : http://www.station-number-six.com > On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Jana Debus wrote: > > Gene, if you can get your hands on Premiere the workflow will be much > smoother. In Premiere you don't have to render until export, and it does the > render automatically before exporting. > I would avoid FinalCut if possible and use either Premiere or Avid. FinalCut > is not Pro anymore. > > Jana > > Sent from +1 (415) 202 31 93 > > >> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Gene Youngblood wrote: >> >> Friends, I’m about to do an interview that will be shot in 4K. We intend to >> edit wth FCP X. Will there be any problem with that? >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] mental problems
Julie Taymour's "Frida" features a passage of Frida Kahlo surviving the accident via stop motion animation provided by the brothers quay. Cronenberg's Naked Lunch, probably some of his other work too but those cockroach typewriters can't be beat. Jessica * artist & poet : http://www.station-number-six.com > On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:04 PM, lagonaboba wrote: > > Dream of a Rarebit Fiend, (1906) Edwin S. Porter [arguably not a “feature” > but what was a feature in 1906? > > > > > >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote: >> >> Friends, I’m seeking recommendations of feature films with scenes that >> attempt to visualize inner states of mind such as breakdowns (Vertigo), >> nightmares (Spellbound), acid trips (Easy Rider) or any other kind of >> hallucination (Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn’t matter. Thanks. >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] digital-era distro
> On Dec 24, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Dave Tetzlaff wrote: > > I don’t think a USB stick is a good choice though, because it’s too > expensive, and it’s impermanent. It’s not ‘the work’, but a container that > has the work in it temporarily, which can be dumped out, erased, replaced > with something else — just like everything else in the society and culture > this kind fo work is straining against. I love this thought, as it points to the underlying difference between 'art / experimental film' and 'regular Netflix fare'. . . Most of these digital distribution models are based in the viewer's consumption of content. I associate consumptive seeing with evaluations of quality of plot, and the overall familiar escapist experience. This is a kind of comfort food for the psyche. Experimental film work usually has many other aims, sometimes consciously working against entertainment by "being not sensually pleasing". The experimental, with its ongoing discovery process, challenges viewers with the discomfort of the new. Oddly this work gets more important during this time of 'certainty of consumable experience' & the weird belief people have in information published on the internet. End riff. Thanks for the thought. Oh and also USBs suck for distro because they fail, and formatting incompatibility across computer systems make them a royal PITA. Jessica * * * Jessica Fenlon http://station-number-six.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] digital-era distro
I see HD being distributed on VOD services (video on demand) where the buyer downloads the film, paying an extra buck or two for the HD version of that is important to them. Jessica * artist & poet : http://www.station-number-six.com > On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Beebe, Roger W. wrote: > > All, > > As I’ve slowly been making HD transfers of my older work, I’m wondering about > what people are doing in the current era for circulating HD versions of their > films. Of course, I’m updating my Vimeo versions with the new scans, but > since those files get massively recompressed, that’s not what I’m primarily > thinking about. Back in the day (way back in 2007/2009/2011!) I used to do a > fairly healthy traffic in DVDs when I toured with my films. In 2015 when I > toured, I didn’t even bother taking merch along, since I have the impression > that people no longer collect DVDs much. (My Mac doesn’t even have a way to > play DVDs, and I assume many folks are reliant on their computers as their > primary site of consuming films—certainly my students are.) With the new HD > versions, a DVD seems even more perverse, since it would be reconverting > these back down to SD. i could burn Blu-Rays, but authoring BRDs is a bit of > a hassle, and I know that many people still can’t play them and many > libraries (like the library at Ohio State) won’t collect them. Which brings > me to files. Are there artists selling work on thumb drives? Are there > libraries buying files on drives? Are regular people interested in > purchasing files? I was thinking about loading up some thumb drives for my > next touring shows just to give it a try, but I thought I’d reach out to you > all first. I guess download is an option too that I haven’t thought much > about. > > I’d be curious to hear from any of you who’ve dealt with these questions. > Ultimately I’m actually not that concerned with turning these new HD > transfers into a revenue stream—it’s more about figuring out a way to get > these out in the world in an ideal form—but a few extra bucks never hurts. > > Thoughts? > Roger > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] reflective white material
Blackout fabric in white are my favorite for this. You can buy blackout fabric at Joanne's Fabrics for between 9 and 12 dollars/yard on a 48" width. Ask a salesperson to show you. They give blindingly good projection surface. The (enormous) portable screen I made for projection work (in bars & rock & roll venues) cost $150 including using grommets along one long edge - I ZipTie or safety pin in place at the venue. Jessica * http://www.drawclose.com > On May 26, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Ball wrote: > > Silk and diffusion materials from your local grip-electric equipment supplier > works well. With silks you can rear-screen project, with thicker materials > like muslin you can front project. They will have a wide selection and it's > usually pretty inexpensive, and they also can come with frames and stands so > they're flexible and easy to set up. > > On May 26, 2016 5:26 PM, "Mark Street" wrote: > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > I'm looking to explore projecting images on the floor, wall and ceiling of > > a gallery space in the coming weeks. I envision some sort of reflective > > screen like material (inexpensive) that I could lay on the floor or suspend > > from the ceiling. I guess I could use a bedsheet! any other > > suggestions out there? I'm thinking of just getting a few dropcloth sized > > pieces and playing around, but I don't know what material to seek out. Any > > suggestions welcome. > > > > all best, > > mark Street > > www.markstreetfilms.com > > > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Films with drawing-in-the-soil trope
Julie Taymor's 'Titus' - Titus Andronicus The closing act hinges on revelation made by Titus' injured daughter writing the names of her assailants in the earth. Jessica * http://www.drawclose.com > On May 4, 2016, at 1:46 PM, John Muse wrote: > > Francis Alÿs, “Green Line” (2007) > Francis Alÿs, "Reel/Unreel" (2011) > > j > >> On May 4, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Christopher Lange wrote: >> >> Ana Mendieta used her body and made body sculpture with land in her films. >> Some of it looks like drawing in the land, but it’s related to how duration >> changes, damages, and takes the body away, or how culture is mixed in with >> nature, I thought. Not really writing. But the films are good. >> >> -Chris >> >> -- >> >> Christopher Lange >> www.chris-lange.com >> >>> On May 4, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Ken Eisenstein wrote: >>> >>> Hawks' Red River >>> >>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Robert Cargni Mitchell >>> wrote: >>> Francisco, >>> >>> Any films will do. Thx! >>> >>> RC >>> >>> Robert E. Cargni | Associate Director of Arts | Senior Curator >>> International House Philadelphia | Programs Office >>> >>> 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 >>> phone: 215.895.6555 | fax: 215.895.6562 >>> email: rcar...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org >>> ___ >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > j/PrM > > * > > john muse > visiting assistant professor of independent college programs > haverford college > http://www.finleymuse.com > http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse > http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse > > * > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] THE END OF FACEBOOK AS SOCIAL NETWORK
The Facebook workaround : message five to ten friends a day and ask them to invite people to that event. Have all other participants do the same. You have to nag, the kids these days think putting up a Facebook event is work*. The long term workaround: build your email list. Unpopular truth: if the service is free than you are the product being sold. It's a struggle, FB keeps the illusion of convenience, since "everybody's on it all the time". But when someone offers to do the work for you, there's usually a cost . . . Jessica *my response to this was: really? You ever hung 100+ fliers with staple guns only to watch them disappear in a week? * http://www.drawclose.com > On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:32 PM, Gashouse Films wrote: > > Yes, same exact thing is happening to me. After 5 years, my first feature is > premiering and I was only able to invite half of the followers of the film > page on FB. Hoping somehow they will catch a post to know about the > screening. > >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Dominic Angerame >> wrote: >> Personally believe that Facebook and Apple are the two biggest terrorist >> organizations in the world! >> >> Dominic >> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Klaus W. Eisenlohr >>> wrote: >>> THE END OF FACEBOOK AS SOCIAL NETWORK >>> Well, I think, that's it! I was just creating an event for our screening >>> next Thursday at Z-Bar. For Directors Lounge >>> BUT I COULD ONLY INVITE 50 PEOPLE! >>> >>> We have like 820 group members of Directors Lounge in Facebook and I can >>> only reach 50 of the to invite them? >>> I guess we need to create new networks, let's see, but this is just not >>> working any more. >>> >>> Oddly and stupidly, Facebook used to be the place where all the filmmakers >>> come and connect, or used to do so. That was the reason I was started to be >>> engaged here. >>> If you are having any suggestions, for a better less obscure project to >>> connect with people, I would be happy to hear from you. >>> Now I just hope we will somehow reach the people interested for the next >>> show. >>> See you there, maybe! >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Klaus W. Eisenlohr >>> >>> Team Directors Lounge >>> -- >>> >>> Klaus W. Eisenlohr, Osnabrücker Str. 25, D-10589 Berlin, Germany >>> >>> >>> >>> email: kl...@richfilm.de >>> and film production:http://www.richfilm.de >>> >>> >>> phone: int.- 49 - 30 - 3409 5343 (BERLIN) >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > -- > Daniel Maldonado > Gashouse Films > > "H.O.M.E." - 2016 U.S. Latino Filmmakers with directorial debuts "to watch > out for" - Chicana From Chicago > > www.gashousefilms.com > www.homeacronymfilm.com > > > > > "H.O.M.E." - LIKE our Facebook page > https://www.facebook.com/pages/HOME-the-film/167592933349015 > > Gashouse Films - Facebook page > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gashouse-Films-Inc-LLC/174621872592282 > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] seamless media player recommendations?
Seconding Andre's vote for raspberry pi. The best thing about this - the device is single-tasking. I've seen digital work sabotaged by a Windows OS cry for software update in the gallery. . . Size makes physical installation more fun/interesting in a gallery space as well. It can be piggybacked onto the projector, no big deal. Jessica * http://www.drawclose.com > On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Paul Harrill wrote: > > > This is a really low bitrate file, actually — like, 10mbps. And I’ve tried it > with a 45 minute file, and a much longer one. It just seems to stutter and > drop frames after a while. > >> On Feb 27, 2016, at 3:23 PM, todd eacrett wrote: >> >> >> Oops. Didn't read that you are using the Micca Speck... Regarding the >> freezing, how long is the file you looping? Have you tried different types >> of files? I've had similar problems with high bitrates and/or crappy cabes >> on WDTV players. >> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Paul Harrill >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I’m looking for recommendations for media players capable of looping video >>> seamlessly for several hours in an installation/gallery environment. >>> >>> I’ve been trying out this Micca Speck G2 player, but it has been freezing >>> up after 50 minutes or so: >>> http://www.amazon.com/Micca-Full-HD-Portable-Digital-Player/dp/B008NO9RRM >>> >>> I need it to be able to run as long as 10 hours, continuously. Does anyone >>> have any ideas? I’ll need three, so something affordable would be awesome. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] FCP 7 editing
Regular video editing programs do you not see the video data file as "frame frame frame". Digital editing is providing the editing program with a list of changes to make to the video codec -a bundle of rules driving playback. When you choose to export the video file, the changes are made. So if you are using Final Cut Pro, what you want to do is export an image sequence using compressor, and then to manually edit each frame using a still image editor. Then you can use a program like QuickTime 7 pro to assemble a video file. You can import a sequential series of stills stored in a single folder. There's a number of other animation programs that will work in this way I just can't think of them off the top of my head. Alternately, you can use programs like Adobe aftereffects and other "affects the base" programs like apples motion to make a frame by frame effects in real time. However, I have found this approach to be counterintuitive -- these programs operate based on your understanding of key framing, and your trust of the programs ability to create tweens that you like. They are build to create narrative movie products, so it can be hard to hack them to get them to be more closely related to an image image image results. You can message me off list if you'd like; I went from frame by frame manipulation in 16mm hand developed scratch work and using an optical printer when I was in grad school to doing everything digitally. So I'm a good resource for you. Jessica * http://www.drawclose.com > On Feb 4, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Jason Halprin wrote: > > After Effects and other animation programs can all do single frame > manipulation. It depends on exactly what you're looking for...can you > describe the functions and effects you're trying to replicate digitally? > > -Jason Halprin > > Jason Halprin > jihalp...@gmail.com > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Marcelle Pecot >> wrote: >> Is Final Cut Pro 7 was the more film-like editing than other digital editing >> programs? Are there any digital programs that allow for single-frame >> manipulation of images like an optical printer? >> Thank you! >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] data recovery help
Mac or PC? Jessica * http://www.drawclose.com > On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:01 PM, mariah garnett wrote: > > ok. so i just did one of the dumber things i've done in a while and erased > some footage i just had telecined and then emptied the trash. And it isn't > backed up. obviously i thought it was, but i was in a haze of hard drive > cleaning. > > is there any hope for me or did i just throw $800 in the digital garbage? > does anyone know of any data recovery software that can undo this? > > ugh. > thanks. > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] NEW DIRECTOR NEEDED for Millennium Film Workshop
It's funny, I've learned the most in terms of creative skills and art making from ppl whose passion has a curmudgeonly streak, one earned from hard experience with the work. That's why I like this listserv. Corollary - If my first concern is my own comfort, why did I become an artist? Jessica * http://www.drawclose.com > On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:30 PM, k. a.r. wrote: > > '...I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already > receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character > assassination.Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many > sources, i.e. young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space > of negativity, where people were shamed and attacked over the most innocuous > things.. > You should all maybe give this some thought.' > > hahaha oh wow. > I've been on this list since 96 or 97; in fact I got my first personal email > specifically to join it. > > Jona, if you think this is bad, you have NO. IDEA. lol > > Frameworks is quite tame these days, there have been some MASSIVE > disagreements, that went on and on for ever. > And many written by some quite verbose people. Lots and lots and LOTS of > words to make their point. > > It's too bad that your whole experience lasted 2 hours, because it makes me > wonder about the attention span of youth. > Is it really that much of an instant gratification generation that you get > in, judge, and get out so quickly? > That is really interesting to me. Some things take more time. A lot more time. > I wonder what this world is changing into, and what the future will be like, > with such an impatient generation. > Curious. > > Also, if you choose to focus on only the negative, that is what you get. > There are lots of posts, and honestly, I don't even notice that much > negativity these days. > > Soyou get what you look for, I guess. > I truly appreciate this list as a place to go to for giving and taking of > information, and it's a great community. > The film world would be a lesser place without it. > > MHO > > Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. > Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions > Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project > The Mission, San Francisco, CA > > 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' > - - - Issac Asimov > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 00:27:55 -0600 > From: jonagerl...@gmail.com > To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] NEW DIRECTOR NEEDED for Millennium Film Workshop > > Wow. I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already > receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character assassination. > > Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many sources, i.e. > young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space of negativity, > where people were shamed and attacked over the most innocuous things. > > Still, as a new filmmaker who draws inspiration from the traditions of > experimental and independent film, I figured I'd sign up. I figured it > couldn't be that bad, that I could surely draw inspiration from artists with > a lifetime of experience, and that it could enrich my practice and inspire me. > > But, well, no. They were right, I was wrong. > > And I'm not trying to clog my inbox with old grudges and hostility. > > The writer Ben Marcus said: "Anyone who believes that you can make art from > language is part of a small, nearly-vanishing community, and we should all > form a wedge and march on the enemy." > > I think the basic sentiment applies to experimental film as well. > > You should all maybe give this some thought. > > Best, > > [unsubscribed] > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Sasha Janerus > wrote: > Ah! Millennium Film Workshop! A vibrant arts organization! Though a while > back Kent Jones referred to it on a podcast as--and I quote--"a place that no > longer exists." It's like Brigadoon or something! > > As far as I know, MFW board elections are a couple years overdue. The present > board was elected as part of an effort to restore democratic member control > of MFW, which has always been mandated by the bylaws. So I'm not sure they > have the legal authority to hire anybody. It is they who need to be replaced. > > As a side note: I've heard Peter Kingsbury got the thirty grand he was after > for doing fuck all. True? Regardless, applicants are advised that there is > doubtless very little left to grift. And, if I know Lili, she'll want her cut > of whatever's left in the cushions. > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Lili White wrote: > Hello experimental Film World! Millennium Film Workshop > http://millenniumfilm.org/ > is looking for a NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR to take us into our 50th Year. PLEASE > SPREAD THE WORD AROUND! > We welcome queries from any competent person who would be responsible for the > successful leadership and management of the organization according to
