[Frameworks] Developers

2013-06-29 Thread Jarrett Hayman
Hello,

Is it necessary to use d-19 developer for Kodak Tri-X super 8? Are there
alternative developers that would as well/differently?

Thanks,

-JH
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Re: [Frameworks] Developers

2013-06-29 Thread Pip Chodorov

Many developers work.
At L'Abominable we use D96 and D97. I have also used Dektol for high-contrast.
Some people develop in coffee... if you look back at the list 
archives you'll find all kinds of information.

There are dozens of options, you just have to experiment to get them right.
Pip


At 11:45 -0500 29/06/13, Jarrett Hayman wrote:
Is it necessary to use d-19 developer for Kodak Tri-X super 8? Are 
there alternative developers that would as well/differently?

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Re: [Frameworks] Developers

2013-06-29 Thread John Woods
While any B&W developer will technically work with any B&W film reversal or 
negative, but in my experience D-19 and Dektol are the only consumer available 
developers that will give you enough contrast for a nice Tri-X reversal image. 
My tests with D-76 and PQ were very flat looking. I personally prefer D-19 but 
everyone has preference. Try asking the film gurus on the APUG forums for more 
opinions.


John




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Hello,

Is it necessary to use d-19 developer for Kodak Tri-X super 8? Are there 
alternative developers that would as well/differently?

Thanks,

-JH

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Re: [Frameworks] Developers

2013-06-29 Thread Scott Dorsey
Mr. Woods has it right.  What you want is a developer that will quickly
develop to a very high gamma, without a lot of grain.  You can in fact use
D-76 but your developing time will be very long in order to get the gamma
up and it will take some tinkering.  You can use dektol, but the grain will
be enormous.

Kodak used to have a brochure called "Small Batch Reversal Processing of 
Kodak Films" which had formulae for hand processing, and which was very
good and useful.  I think the developer they listed was not standard D-19
but was a similar high energy developer with a silver solvent for softer
grain edges.
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Developers

2013-06-29 Thread Dicky
Kodak apparently recently discontinued D-19 (according to the folks at
Freestyle). Photographer's Formulary makes a replacement for it, but it
comes only in a size to mix 1L (as opposed to 3.8L) and costs about $14 a
pack (as opposed to about $20 average for the Kodak).

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> Mr. Woods has it right.  What you want is a developer that will quickly
> develop to a very high gamma, without a lot of grain.  You can in fact use
> D-76 but your developing time will be very long in order to get the gamma
> up and it will take some tinkering.  You can use dektol, but the grain will
> be enormous.
>
> Kodak used to have a brochure called "Small Batch Reversal Processing of
> Kodak Films" which had formulae for hand processing, and which was very
> good and useful.  I think the developer they listed was not standard D-19
> but was a similar high energy developer with a silver solvent for softer
> grain edges.
> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Developers

2013-06-29 Thread Scott Dorsey
I don't know, I always made all that stuff up from reagents which is a lot
cheaper and more flexible.  Photographer's Formulary should sell you all of
the needed materials (although some thing like sulfite and borax are cheaper
to get elsewhere).
--scott
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