Re: [Frameworks] Slide Projector Controller

[Pablo de Ocampo]

Thanks Scott! I'll also email that guy you mentioned earlier.

Pablo

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:36 PM Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> Okay, probably the way it was supposed to work is that it has cue tones
> on the audio track which keys the synchronizer.  Every time the
> synchronizer
> hears the 1kc tone, it presses the CUE button on the Coyote.
>
> So the way you normally do this is that you load the program into the
> Coyote,
> cue up the tape, set the coyote to playback, and then the first beep on the
> tape starts the first cue on the coyote, the second beep on the tape starts
> the second beep on the coyote.
>
> You can verify this by running the thing and pressing the CUE button by
> hand every time you hear a beep and making sure everything lines up
> properly.
>
> If this is the case and my guess is right then you will need to get
> the synchronizer.. I think the audio in and out on the Coyote itself is
> just for loading and storing the program from and to tape.
>
> However, this is 40-year-old information from someone who never used that
> model in the first place so take it with a grain of salt and ask the guru.
> --scott
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Slide Projector Controller

[Scott Dorsey]

Okay, probably the way it was supposed to work is that it has cue tones
on the audio track which keys the synchronizer.  Every time the synchronizer
hears the 1kc tone, it presses the CUE button on the Coyote.

So the way you normally do this is that you load the program into the Coyote,
cue up the tape, set the coyote to playback, and then the first beep on the
tape starts the first cue on the coyote, the second beep on the tape starts
the second beep on the coyote.

You can verify this by running the thing and pressing the CUE button by
hand every time you hear a beep and making sure everything lines up properly.

If this is the case and my guess is right then you will need to get
the synchronizer.. I think the audio in and out on the Coyote itself is
just for loading and storing the program from and to tape.

However, this is 40-year-old information from someone who never used that
model in the first place so take it with a grain of salt and ask the guru.
--scott


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Re: [Frameworks] Slide Projector Controller

[Pablo de Ocampo]

I do have the manual, which i found a pdf of online, looks like it was from
the Steven you mentioned. i only have a coyote, not a synchronizer, as I
understood the coyote would hear the cues from the sync track on the audio
tape, but maybe I'm missing a piece of gear?

We digitized the audio tape, and yes, it appears to be 100k tones one after
the other, though not evenly spaced, like they happen at different
intervals, but all seem to be the same duration and frequency.

Pablo

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:01 PM Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> Just because it works in mag tape bypass mode does not mean that the
> controller is actually working and hearing audio.
>
> If you load the program into the machine, can you see it?  Going with the
> up and down buttons can you see a bunch of cues in there?  Can you play
> those cues back by hand in order by pressing the cut button?
>
> I am assuming you're loading the program in off a program tape and not
> punching it all in by hand.  If you punch it in by hand that's fine but
> it doesn't validate that the input works.
>
> Does the track on the tape just have 1000kc tones all one after the other,
> just the same tone every time and not different ones?
>
> Do you have the synchronizer device that goes from the tape machine to
> the coyote?  Was the original show done with the synchronizer or wild
> or with timecode?  If there is timecode on the track, it will be a whining
> sound instead of identical beeps.
>
> I have never used a Coyote but I used to have some time on the Eagle and
> Show Pro controllers from AVL.  Do you have the Coyote manual?
>
> The expert multimage guy is stevenmichael...@gmail.com and he will almost
> certainly be able to figure out how the original configuration was done.
> --scott
>
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Slide Projector Controller

[Scott Dorsey]

Just because it works in mag tape bypass mode does not mean that the
controller is actually working and hearing audio.

If you load the program into the machine, can you see it?  Going with the
up and down buttons can you see a bunch of cues in there?  Can you play
those cues back by hand in order by pressing the cut button?

I am assuming you're loading the program in off a program tape and not 
punching it all in by hand.  If you punch it in by hand that's fine but
it doesn't validate that the input works.

Does the track on the tape just have 1000kc tones all one after the other,
just the same tone every time and not different ones? 

Do you have the synchronizer device that goes from the tape machine to
the coyote?  Was the original show done with the synchronizer or wild
or with timecode?  If there is timecode on the track, it will be a whining
sound instead of identical beeps.

I have never used a Coyote but I used to have some time on the Eagle and
Show Pro controllers from AVL.  Do you have the Coyote manual?

The expert multimage guy is stevenmichael...@gmail.com and he will almost
certainly be able to figure out how the original configuration was done.
--scott




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[Frameworks] Slide Projector Controller

[Pablo de Ocampo]

Hey folks.

Wondering if anyone on the list has any technical know how and experience
with an AVL Coyote slide controller. It's a unit that you can use to
program and run a three projector slide show, either by loading the
commands into the unit , or via a sync track on an audio tape.

I'm working with an artist to resuscitate a work of theirs from the early
1980s. We have an AVL Coyote, and the 4 track audio tape that holds the
show sync information, but can't seem to get the show to run. I do know
that the Coyote works, as it powers on and I can manually control slide
projectors from the buttons on the Coyote. Perhaps the input that hears a
sync signal is broken? but the circuitry that sends commands to slide
projectors definitely works.

Looking for someone that might be able to help advise on it in some
capacity, thought I'd try my luck here

Thanks!

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