Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"
I hate to break the news - but India, may not be holding out for filmI'm also not so sure about lauding the volume of Bollywood productions. Filmmakers working with film may actually have been better off with fewer. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jay Hudson wrote: > You forget that the most films per year are made in the Hindi > language. As for experimental film, orwo is now with north american > site, fuji could persist, and kodak's assets could be valuable. > Basically, it is all up in the air. For commercials, the writing is > clearly on the wall, but we are not doing this for the commercials > anyway. It is just pure love of the medium. > > Cries of the death of film are not based on any empirical fact. > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Alex McCarron > wrote: > > I would really like you to be right and for there still be a reason for > > distributors to release new films as prints just to cater to poor, hot > > countries like India and that it would somehow be more affordable for > > theaters in those countries to deal with the current distribution system > > rather than whatever is coming next with digital projectors. I have to > admit > > I don't know that much about theaters in the third world but I'm still > > skeptical that the poor will keep a more expensive way of distributing > films > > alive. > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: > >> > >> now you're being facetious. The only way to do it is through air > >> conditioning. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alex McCarron > > >> wrote: > >> > What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the > door? > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It > >> >> gets very hot in India. > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron > >> >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in > >> >> > business? > >> >> > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be > >> >> > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay > as > >> >> > quality > >> >> > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of > acceptable > >> >> > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of > the > >> >> > future. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports. They are generally > >> >> >> based > >> >> >> on first world arrogance. Little theaters in India don't have to > >> >> >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors. Here it is > >> >> >> certainly > >> >> >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff < > djte...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence > >> >> >> > Service"... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4 > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > ___ > >> >> >> > FrameWorks mailing list > >> >> >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> >> >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> ___ > >> >> >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ___ > >> >> > FrameWorks mailing list > >> >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ___ > >> >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > FrameWorks mailing list > >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"
You forget that the most films per year are made in the Hindi language. As for experimental film, orwo is now with north american site, fuji could persist, and kodak's assets could be valuable. Basically, it is all up in the air. For commercials, the writing is clearly on the wall, but we are not doing this for the commercials anyway. It is just pure love of the medium. Cries of the death of film are not based on any empirical fact. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Alex McCarron wrote: > I would really like you to be right and for there still be a reason for > distributors to release new films as prints just to cater to poor, hot > countries like India and that it would somehow be more affordable for > theaters in those countries to deal with the current distribution system > rather than whatever is coming next with digital projectors. I have to admit > I don't know that much about theaters in the third world but I'm still > skeptical that the poor will keep a more expensive way of distributing films > alive. > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: >> >> now you're being facetious. The only way to do it is through air >> conditioning. >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alex McCarron >> wrote: >> > What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door? >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: >> >> >> >> consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It >> >> gets very hot in India. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in >> >> > business? >> >> > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be >> >> > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as >> >> > quality >> >> > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable >> >> > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the >> >> > future. >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports. They are generally >> >> >> based >> >> >> on first world arrogance. Little theaters in India don't have to >> >> >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors. Here it is >> >> >> certainly >> >> >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence >> >> >> > Service"... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ___ >> >> >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> >> >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> > >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ___ >> >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> > >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"
I would really like you to be right and for there still be a reason for distributors to release new films as prints just to cater to poor, hot countries like India and that it would somehow be more affordable for theaters in those countries to deal with the current distribution system rather than whatever is coming next with digital projectors. I have to admit I don't know that much about theaters in the third world but I'm still skeptical that the poor will keep a more expensive way of distributing films alive. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: > now you're being facetious. The only way to do it is through air > conditioning. > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alex McCarron > wrote: > > What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door? > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: > >> > >> consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It > >> gets very hot in India. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron > > >> wrote: > >> > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in > >> > business? > >> > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be > >> > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as > >> > quality > >> > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable > >> > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the > >> > future. > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports. They are generally based > >> >> on first world arrogance. Little theaters in India don't have to > >> >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors. Here it is certainly > >> >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there. > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence > >> >> > Service"... > >> >> > > >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4 > >> >> > > >> >> > ___ > >> >> > FrameWorks mailing list > >> >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> >> > > >> >> ___ > >> >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > FrameWorks mailing list > >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"
now you're being facetious. The only way to do it is through air conditioning. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alex McCarron wrote: > What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door? > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: >> >> consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It >> gets very hot in India. >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron >> wrote: >> > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in >> > business? >> > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be >> > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as >> > quality >> > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable >> > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the >> > future. >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: >> >> >> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports. They are generally based >> >> on first world arrogance. Little theaters in India don't have to >> >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors. Here it is certainly >> >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff >> >> wrote: >> >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence >> >> > Service"... >> >> > >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4 >> >> > >> >> > ___ >> >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > >> >> ___ >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> > >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"
What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: > consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It > gets very hot in India. > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron > wrote: > > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in > business? > > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be > > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as > quality > > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable > > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the > future. > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: > >> > >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports. They are generally based > >> on first world arrogance. Little theaters in India don't have to > >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors. Here it is certainly > >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff > >> wrote: > >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence > >> > Service"... > >> > > >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4 > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > FrameWorks mailing list > >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"
consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It gets very hot in India. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron wrote: > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in business? > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be > snatching up nicer consumer grade projectors from Best Buy Bombay as quality > improves and expectations for quality drops and a point of acceptable > mediocrity is reached which seems to be the trend for culture of the future. > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: >> >> I can't tolerate any more of these reports. They are generally based >> on first world arrogance. Little theaters in India don't have to >> money to sufficiently cool digital projectors. Here it is certainly >> the near future, but there is a wider world out there. >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Tetzlaff >> wrote: >> > Citing somethine called "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence >> > Service"... >> > >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oz7gl4 >> > >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
