EuroBSDcon Call for Proposals in Paris, France 21-24.9.2017
On behalf of the EuroBSDCon 2017 Program Committee, here is the Call for Proposals for the EuroBSDCon 2017 conference which will take place in Paris, France from 21st through 24th of September 2017: https://2017.eurobsdcon.org/call-for-proposals/ Closing date for the CfP is April, 30th. Please submit your proposals! Thanks, -- Lars Engels for the EuroBSDCon 2017 PC pgpJdZxL5CK8i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD foundation flyers translation in french
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 03:16:08AM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Rodrigo OSORIO wrote: > > This mail target a french-speaking audience, so the rest of the mail > > will be in french. Sorry. > > Wrong list ! This is a global English list If we globaly posted local > language noise on list, it would kill the list. No courtesy > translation attached made the post worse; see URLs @ > http://berklix.com/~jhs/trans/ > > To write in French to a subset of French who don't want English, > copy the example of some Germans who created German BSD > lists for the subset of Germans who want to discuss in German. > http://www.freebsd.de/mailinglists.html > > I read French, it had nothing new re advocacy for non French, > just an appeal to check French translations, try > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-translators > > Cheers, > Julian Actually reading your mail took me far more time to skip the french one. ;-) pgpsdc6gKmVFi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:22:32AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > On 1 Apr 2014, at 23:10, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Audio output is pretty system dependent, but I had little problem getting > > my audio to auto-switch to headphones when I plugged them in. The setup is > > a bit ugly,but I only had to check the available PINs (ugly, ugly) and set > > up stuff once. It just works. If you want my example set-up, I can post it > > somewhere or you can look in the archives for it as I have posted it in the > > past. > > It would be good to have this in the handbook (and to see what we can > do to improve it). FreeBSD audio typically works out of the box and > it's great when it does[1], but it can be underdocumented black magic > to make it work when it doesn't. For example, I believe it's possible > to tell pcm that when it receives a stereo stream it should redirect > the left channel to the front and rear left, and the right channel to > the front and rear right, but I haven't yet worked out how to do this > - I'd have thought it was the kind of default that we'd want to have. > > The use case that PulseAudio was [over]designed to fix was plugging in > USB headphones (or connecting a Bluetooth headset) and having existing > audio streams redirected there. This should be possible with the > existing sound stack, but there are some bits of plumbing missing. We > already do in-kernel mixing and resampling, which are the hard bits. > Duplicating streams and redirecting them are trivial by comparison. > > David > > [1] Although I had a slightly embarrassing moment when I spent an hour > hunting for docs to tell me how to configure my media centre box do > 5.1 output and then decided to just try it and found it worked out of > the box. AFAIK we already can configure HDA's sound output and input in many ways using sysctl(8). What's still missing is a user-friendly way to configure sound. There are some things that can be handled in one little program / script / TUI / GUI / CLI: - Default sound unit (hw.snd.default_unit) - Use the last inserted sound device as default? (hw.snd.default_auto) - PIN Routing (dev.hdaa.%d.config) - Mixer settings Putting it all together in something called sndcontrol should not be too hard. It just takes someone(TM) to do it pgpPO0CTf37RI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 07:52:13AM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lars Engels [mailto:lars.eng...@0x20.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:41 AM > > To: Jordan Hubbard > > Cc: Eitan Adler; hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd- > > advoc...@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market > > > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:11:19PM +0500, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > > > > > That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the > > > > desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the > [snip] > > > I'm a happy FreeBSD desktop user since 4.7. There are some edges, but I > > really like that I can can create a desktop the way _I_ want it and my mail > > client even allows me to break lines at 80 chars. Eat that, Apple Mail! ;-) > > What e-mail client do you use? Evolution? No, mutt, with vim as mail composer. :) pgpa2HLJBs_1H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:11:19PM +0500, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the > > desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the Linux > > desktop" and start to rip out the pieces of the OS not needed for > > server or embedded use. > > > > Some of you may point to PCBSD and say that we have a chance, but I > > must ask you: how does one flavor stand up to the thousands in the > > Linux world? > > The fact that this posting comes out on April 1st makes me wonder if > it’s just an elaborate April Fool’s joke, but then the notion of *BSD > (or Linux, for that matter) on the Desktop is just another > long-running April fool’s joke, so I’m willing to postulate that two > April Fools jokes would simply cancel each other out and make this > posting a serious one again. :-) > > I’ll choose to be serious and say what I’m about to say in spite of > the fact that I work for the primary sponsor of PC-BSD and actually > like the fact that it has created some interesting technologies like > PBIs, the Jail Warden, Life-preserver and a ZFS boot environment menu. > > There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux. There > never has been and there never will be. Why do you think we chose > “the power to serve” as FreeBSD’s first marketing slogan? It makes a > fine server OS and it’s easy to defend its role in the server room. > It’s also becoming easier to defend its role as an embedded OS, which > is another excellent niche to pursue and I am happy to see all the > recent developments there. > > A desktop? Unless you consider Mac OS X to be “BSD on the desktop” > (and while they share some common technologies, it’s increasingly a > stretch to say that), it’s just never going to happen for (at least) > the following reasons: > > 1. Power. As you point out, being truly power efficient is a complete > top-to-bottom engineering effort and it takes a lot more than just > trying to idle the processor whenever possible to achieve that. You > need to optimize all of the hot-spot routines in the system for power > efficiency (which actually involves a fair amount of micro > architecture knowledge), you need a kernel scheduler that is power > management aware, you need a process management system that runs as > few things as possible and knows how to schedule things during package > wake-up intervals, you need timers to be coalesced at the level where > applications consume them, the list just goes on and on. It’s a lot > of engineering work, and to drive that work you also need a lot of > telemetry data and people with big sticks running around hitting > people who write power-inefficient code. FreeBSD has neither. > > 2. Multimedia. A real end-user’s desktop is basically one big UI for > watching things, listening to things, and running apps. A decent > audio / video subsystem is just one part of the picture, and one that > has always been really weak - entire engineering teams can spend years > working on codecs, performance optimizations, low and guaranteed > latency support for audio I/O, etc. What’s worse, the bar is only > being raised. You want to be part of the next wave of folks who can > author and edit content for the new 4K video standard? Not on FreeBSD > or Linux, you’re not. > > 3. Applications. A desktop without real and useful applications is > not a desktop, it’s just an empty display surface. Sure, there are > users out there who are happy with just a mail client, a web browser > and maybe a calendaring app, but those users are also arguably even > better candidates for Chrome or other simplified environments where > all of that simply happens in a fancy web browser and you get things > like “software updates” and cloud integration essentially for free > since it’s all just one cohesive picture there. The ability to solve > those user’s needs very simply makes them ripe targets for the web > application delivery platforms. > > For the other folks who want to do fancier stuff like mix audio, edit > videos or even just play mainstream 3D games that were actually > published sometime in the last year, they’ll use a real desktop OS and > won't even bother looking at one of the free ones because guess what, > the free ones just can’t do those things, or do them badly enough that > their users feel like they’re perpetually living in a kind of > self-selected ghetto. Metaphorically speaking, sleeping on the floor > in a sleeping bag in your one-room apartment is fine when you’re > young, but as you get older, you want to be more comfortable and have > a real bed in a real house! > > Those are just three reasons. There are lots more, not least of which > among them is the fact that it’s damn hard even just to *create* > significant applications with the weak-ass APIs that *BSD and Linux > provide. You have to stitch together some Frankenstein collec
Re: FreeBSD boot camp @ Fosdem 2009
rodrigo-4 wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > You can found here some of the pictures I took during the fosdem 2009 > event > it may illustrate all the fantastic work done by Daniel and his crew > during > this looong weekend > > Regards > > The pictures : http://www.bebik.net/photos/fosdem2009/ > > I also shot a pic of someone running the booth... ;-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/28517...@n04/3284017575/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/FreeBSD-boot-camp-%40-Fosdem-2009-tp22342850p22696422.html Sent from the freebsd-advocacy mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
