Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-16 Thread Hub- FreeBSD

On 2012-11-16, at 6:42 AM, Erich Dollansky 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:52:48 +0100
> Johnny Billquist  wrote:
> 
>> On 2012-11-16 12:48, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Hub- FreeBSD 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, according to what we are tracking at
>>>> http://bsdstats.org, there are currently *8*:
>>>> 
>>>> PC-BSD
>>>> FreeBSD
>>>> PYC-BSD (aka Rus-BSD)
>>>> DesktopBSD
>>>> OpenBSD
>>>> NetBSD
>>>> DragonflyBSD
>>>> MidnightBSD
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tracking something like DesktopBSD which doesn't exist for quite a
>>> long time make statistics not much useful. MidnightBSD seems to be
>>> same case as last activy on mailing list last year in May, forums
>>> doesn't working at all so we are still on 4 core BSDs
>>> (Open/Net/Free/Dfly).
>> 
>> I find it rather meaningless as a tracking tool for BSD in general. 
>> There is no way something like 2BSD would ever appear there, no
>> matter how many systems were installed.
> 
> the number of FreeBSD installations for Indonesia seem also very, very
> low. We would have 20% of the installation base then.

Its a purely opt-in system, excepf for PC-BSD, which has theirs as an opt-out 
when you install the OS … that is why its numbers are so much higher then 
everyone else …

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Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-16 Thread Hub- FreeBSD

On 2012-11-16, at 5:52 AM, Johnny Billquist  wrote:

> On 2012-11-16 12:48, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Hub- FreeBSD  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, according to what we are tracking at http://bsdstats.org, there 
>>> are currently *8*:
>>> 
>>> PC-BSD
>>> FreeBSD
>>> PYC-BSD (aka Rus-BSD)
>>> DesktopBSD
>>> OpenBSD
>>> NetBSD
>>> DragonflyBSD
>>> MidnightBSD
>>> 
>> 
>> Tracking something like DesktopBSD which doesn't exist for quite a
>> long time make statistics not much useful. MidnightBSD seems to be
>> same case as last activy on mailing list last year in May, forums
>> doesn't working at all so we are still on 4 core BSDs
>> (Open/Net/Free/Dfly).
> 
> I find it rather meaningless as a tracking tool for BSD in general. There is 
> no way something like 2BSD would ever appear there, no matter how many 
> systems were installed.
> 
> And I also do happen to consider OS-X to be a BSD system. :-)

I agree on that point, which is why I run it for my desktops … but until you 
mention it, I'd never thought of even trying to get the script to run … have to 
play with that this weekend and see how "out of the box" it works, if it does …


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Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-16 Thread Hub- FreeBSD

Actually, according to what we are tracking at http://bsdstats.org, there are 
currently *8*:

PC-BSD
FreeBSD
PYC-BSD (aka Rus-BSD)
DesktopBSD
OpenBSD
NetBSD
DragonflyBSD
MidnightBSD


On 2012-11-16, at 12:30 AM, Alfred Perlstein  wrote:

> On 11/13/12 2:45 AM, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote:
>>> On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin  Björklin  wrote:
>>> 
 Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four 
 largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each 
 and create a Unified BSD?
>>> 
>>> You'd end up creating a fifth.
>> At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
>> Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
>> is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible
>> userland, an eighth.
> 
> And Free/Net derived kernel.  (at least for unix services: vfs, inet, process)
>> 
>>  -is
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