Re: bogus microuptime() warnings?

2001-01-10 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 09-Jan-01 Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > Going off on a tangent, I'm getting a lot fewer "hwptr went backwards"
> > with the latest -CURRENT than I used to...
> Which soundcard?

SoundBlaster Vibra 16X.

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device driver oddities. (fwd)

2001-01-10 Thread Nate Dannenberg



I am using 5.0-Current (actually intended to get 4.2-Stable, but
anyways)...  It appears there is a problem with the way the system is
dealing with the mouse, keyboard, and sound devices.

My source tree was updated via CVSup just a day or so ago, and compiled on
that day, with no errors.  Kernel has since been re-compiled for my usual
settings (changes in the way sound devices are handled was noted and
adapted), and of course to trim out some unneeded stuff (SCSI and RAID
drivers, etc)

Consider this line from the obvious Beach Boys hit (an mp3 playing under
mpg123 0.59r):

"I wish they all could be california... girls..."

At one point, the sound, mouse, and keyboard all stalled in the middle of
the word "be".  It sounded like:

"I wish they all could brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbebebe california... girls..."

At that moment, the mouse stops moving, for as long as the sound stalls,
and the keyboard will insert a garbage character to whatever application I
am focused on, if I happen to be pressing a key at that moment.  This
happens frequently when I move the mouse around, and moreso if something
else occurs along with that movement, such as a focus change from one
window to another.

Occasionally, typing on the keyboard also induces a stall in the sound and
mouse drivers.

Machine:  Compaq Presario 4764.  P166 MMX, 24 Megs RAM.
Sound:  ESS Audiodrive 18xx series on the motherboard, non PnP.
Mouse:  A typical IBM three-button wheel mouse.
Environment:  X Free86 3.3.6, Gnome/Sawmill.  (Problem is not limited to
  X, it also happens at the consolem, before X is even
  started).

To me this looks like an IRQ handling problem, but I am not certain.  On
my hobby platform, IRQ software malfunctions would be the first thing to
look for if such a problem were to occur.

My applications (mostly ports and packages) from 4.1 have not yet been
updated.  This same problem also exists in 4.2-Release as obtained via
kern.flp and mfsroot.flp images for 4.2-Release, FTP Install.

There have been no hardware changes made in several months.  In
4.1-Release (also obtained via FTP Install), this problem does NOT
exist.  I also verified that the problem goes away when 4.1 is present by
"downgrading" back to 4.1-Release from 4.2-Release (using a rather
brute-force method to insure a clean install).

In all cases I have of course obtained kernel source during the install,
and always compile it using the same settings (or equivalent, as with
sound parameters in 5.0-C compared to 4.1-R).

After mentioning my guess about possible IRQ problems in #freebsdhelp on
IRC/EFnet, someone suggested I take a look at the output of vmstat -i and
dmesg.  Here are those outputs:


Output from vmstat:

interrupt  total  rate
stray irq0  10
stray irq6  10
stray irq7  10
stray irq15 10
ata0 irq14 1095931
ata1 irq15 100
fdc0 irq6   10
atkbd0 irq11445611
psm0 irq12 1078321
sio0 irq4   10
sbc0 irq5 1051032   12
ep0 irq3407210
clk irq0  8750437   99
rtc irq8 11197886  127
lpt0 irq7  2455072
Total21647585  247


Output from dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #3: Tue Jan  9 03:04:54 CST 2001
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/FLUTE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 167046462 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x544  Stepping = 4
  Features=0x8001bf
real memory  = 25165824 (24576K bytes)
config> di sio1
config> di sn0
config> di lnc0
config> di le0
config> di ie0
config> di fe0
config> di ed0
config> di cs0
config> di bt0
config> di aic0
config> di aha0
config> di adv0
config> q
avail memory = 20930560 (20440K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc039e000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc039e09c.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0:  at pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
isab0:  at device 1.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 0x1020-0x102f at device 1.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0:  port 0x1000-0x101f irq 11 at device 1.2 
on pci0
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0:  at 2.0 (no driver attached)
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
vga0:  at

device driver oddities

2001-01-10 Thread Nate Dannenberg


Addendum to previous message describing what seems like IRQ problems...

One thing I forgot to mention, and which is the whole reason I decided to
send this to the list, is that the ESS Audiodrive does not play in Stereo
under 4.2-Release or 5.0-Current.  Sound is in mono, out of both speakers.

The music being tested shows very clear, clean stereo separation under
4.1-Release.  The upgrade to 4.2-Release was done via Sysinstall, which I
eventually downgraded back to 4.1-Release via the brute force
"delete-everything-except-/pub-and-/proc-and-do-an-FTP-Install".  At that
point (after I compiled my kernel as usual), sound returned to normal.

The upgrade path from 4.1-Release to 5.0-Current was of course done via
CVSup/make buildworld/make installworld  followed by a normal kernel
recompile to get my preferred settings into place.

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Re: securelevel and sysctl

2001-01-10 Thread Andrzej Bialecki

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote:

> 
>  I'am working on module, which catches __sysctl system call, and on
>  securelevel grater than 3, refuse any changes of sysctl oids. Are there any

You might want to take a look at SPY module
(http://people.freebsd.org/~abial/spy).

>  problems, which might happen after blocking sysctl oids change ?
>  AFAIR there is no such application running in user Space,which requires
>  ability to change sysctl oids,is there ?

Several oids are changed on system startup. Others are accessed read-only
to provide system information.

>  Secondly I'was thinking about oids,which are needed for user space aplications
>  to work. I figured out,that vi use some (I didn't check which one) oid on
>  startup, so is there a list of oids used by user space applications ?

Well, it depends on what the user applications want to access, doesn't it
:-). Theoretically, this list could be all oids. Practically, it depends
on the user applications that are installed...

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Re: proposed small change to .cshrc

2001-01-10 Thread David Malone

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:52:29PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote:

> If you just hit the up or down arrow without having partial text on the
> line, it works just like normal history.  Once you start using it,
> you will never be able to go back.

As a side note - this is usually mapped to escpae-p - it is very useful.

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rebuilding sendmail without building world

2001-01-10 Thread Leif Neland

How do I remake sendmail without making a buildworld?

I'm experimenting with cyrus-sasl and sendmail.

cd /usr/src/contrib/sendmail && make

doesn't work, because there is no Build there.

I could import the original source from sendmail.org, but I'd rather
not; I'd prefer using the paths and flags from buildworld.

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Re: rebuilding sendmail without building world

2001-01-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov

On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 03:22:30PM +0100, Leif Neland wrote:
> How do I remake sendmail without making a buildworld?
> 
> I'm experimenting with cyrus-sasl and sendmail.
> 
> cd /usr/src/contrib/sendmail && make
> 
> doesn't work, because there is no Build there.
> 
> I could import the original source from sendmail.org, but I'd rather
> not; I'd prefer using the paths and flags from buildworld.
> 
(cd /usr/src; grep NO_SENDMAIL */Makefile) should give you an idea.


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Re: pmtimer

2001-01-10 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

Hi,

> I'm not sure what pmtimer is supposed to do. Isn't it supposed to give
> support for the broken statclock on laptops? I saw my friend running 4.1
> with some patches that allowed him to use the statclock (and the rtc
> device showed up in systat -vm 2) On my laptop, pmtimer doesn't appear to
> do anything; and I couldn't find a manpage on it

Please refer to src/UPDATING for -current.
The new pmtimer device is necessary for laptops.  Failure to
include the device will cause suspended laptops losing time
when they resume.

Currently pmtimer won't solve the broken statclock problem...
The timer related code at suspend/resume time have been moved from APM
to pmtimer so that ACPI (includes new power management system) use
pmtimer at sleep/wakeup time as well.

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Re: Fan speed control sony vaio lx800 slimtop

2001-01-10 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

> Note also that Scott Long ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is also working on this, 
> you will want to check with him to work out where he's up to...

OK, I intended to try acpi_thermal hacking for the next target, now
I can be a tester and feed back something for Scott's hack :-)

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Re: rebuilding sendmail without building world

2001-01-10 Thread Leif Neland



On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 03:22:30PM +0100, Leif Neland wrote:
> > How do I remake sendmail without making a buildworld?
> > 
> > I'm experimenting with cyrus-sasl and sendmail.
> > 
> > cd /usr/src/contrib/sendmail && make
> > 
> > doesn't work, because there is no Build there.
> > 
> > I could import the original source from sendmail.org, but I'd rather
> > not; I'd prefer using the paths and flags from buildworld.
> > 
> (cd /usr/src; grep NO_SENDMAIL */Makefile) should give you an idea.
> 
Yes, the idea I got was:
cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail && make && make install

Leif



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Re: Fan speed control sony vaio lx800 slimtop

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Dufault

> > Note also that Scott Long ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is also working on this, 
> > you will want to check with him to work out where he's up to...
> 
> OK, I intended to try acpi_thermal hacking for the next target, now
> I can be a tester and feed back something for Scott's hack :-)

Note that there are no \_TZ_ entries in that "vaiolx800.asl" dump
that I submitted for the ACPI collection.  I'm not sure where that
collection is - I don't see it off www.jp.freebsd.org/acpi, if
anyone wants to see that .asl file I can put it somewhere public.

I also haven't found any "PNP" devices corresponding to an
ACPI fan (I forget the exact number) during boot -v.

Would I have to do anything special to see it? If anyone has any
other ideas of what to do let me know - I'm wondering if throttling
down the CPU turns down the fan.

In the meantime I've made terrific progress by putting "dynamat" sound
absorbing material on the bottom of the plastic drum-like base of the 
Vaio, it is quieter and now my desk doesn't vibrate when the fan is
on high. (www.dynamat.com, new web site in progress)

Next I'll open it up and put dynamat on the inside of the
plastic - I assume most heat loss is by convection and this won't
make much difference.  Once I do get the fan throttling working
I'll have a real quiet system.

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2001-01-10 Thread Gary Lee

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Re: Fan speed control sony vaio lx800 slimtop

2001-01-10 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

[Cc trimed]

Quick news from acpi-jp :-)

> Note that there are no \_TZ_ entries in that "vaiolx800.asl" dump
> that I submitted for the ACPI collection.  I'm not sure where that
> collection is - I don't see it off www.jp.freebsd.org/acpi, if
> anyone wants to see that .asl file I can put it somewhere public.

Sorry, project page haven't been updated for a long time.
CVSuping ACPI data collection is also with following supfile.

-
*default host=cvsup.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/home/iwasaki/ACPI-data   # XXX
*default prefix=/home/iwasaki/ACPI-data # XXX
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
jp-acpi-data
-

Also cvsweb at
http://www.jp.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ACPI/data/?cvsroot=freebsd-jp

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Re: proposed small change to .cshrc

2001-01-10 Thread Matt Dillon


:
:On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:52:29PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote:
:
:> If you just hit the up or down arrow without having partial text on the
:> line, it works just like normal history.  Once you start using it,
:> you will never be able to go back.
:
:As a side note - this is usually mapped to escpae-p - it is very useful.
:
:   David.

   Yes, but not as a multi-key keystroke.  Up-arrow is a thousand times 
   easier to hit.

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Re: pmtimer

2001-01-10 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver

Yeah, that's what I thought. A while back someone sent me some patches
that fix the broken statclock and make it work on laptops, I can't
remember his name right now. However those patches are against FreeBSD
4.1-RELEASE, and I'm not sure if they'd work for -CURRENT. I suppose I
could do without the statclock for now, but it'd be nice to have :-)




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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> > I'm not sure what pmtimer is supposed to do. Isn't it supposed to give
> > support for the broken statclock on laptops? I saw my friend running 4.1
> > with some patches that allowed him to use the statclock (and the rtc
> > device showed up in systat -vm 2) On my laptop, pmtimer doesn't appear to
> > do anything; and I couldn't find a manpage on it
> 
> Please refer to src/UPDATING for -current.
> The new pmtimer device is necessary for laptops.  Failure to
> include the device will cause suspended laptops losing time
> when they resume.
> 
> Currently pmtimer won't solve the broken statclock problem...
> The timer related code at suspend/resume time have been moved from APM
> to pmtimer so that ACPI (includes new power management system) use
> pmtimer at sleep/wakeup time as well.
> 
> Thanks
> 



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HEADSUP! change to atapi-cd driver and burncd

2001-01-10 Thread Soren Schmidt


The changes require that kernel and burncd are in sync...

-Søren


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/boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

2001-01-10 Thread Edwin Culp

I am starting to get the following error.  I've never seen it before and don't
really understand why it should fail.  Where should I start looking for the
problem?  

/boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

This seems to have started in the last week.

Thanks,

ed
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Re: Fan speed control sony vaio lx800 slimtop

2001-01-10 Thread Mike Smith

> Note that there are no \_TZ_ entries in that "vaiolx800.asl" dump
> that I submitted for the ACPI collection.  I'm not sure where that
> collection is - I don't see it off www.jp.freebsd.org/acpi, if
> anyone wants to see that .asl file I can put it somewhere public.

Is there a thermal zone *anywhere* (ACPI 2.0 moves it into _SB_, for 
example).

> Would I have to do anything special to see it? If anyone has any
> other ideas of what to do let me know - I'm wondering if throttling
> down the CPU turns down the fan.

It's possible that the EC is solely responsible for the fan, or that 
Sony decided in their infinite wisdom to do it all in a driver somewhere.

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RE: /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

2001-01-10 Thread John Baldwin


On 10-Jan-01 Edwin Culp wrote:
> I am starting to get the following error.  I've never seen it before and
> don't
> really understand why it should fail.  Where should I start looking for the
> problem?  
> 
> /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed
> 
> This seems to have started in the last week.
> 
> Thanks,

You are running out of swap space.  Run fewer programs, buy more memory, add
more swap space, or a combo of the three.

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RE: /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

2001-01-10 Thread Edwin Culp

Thanks, John.  I wish that it were that simple, that is if I am interpreting
pstat and vmstat correctly.

/root # pstat -s
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
/dev/rad0s2b   2620160   262016 0%Interleaved

I have two another disks that aren't being used with an additional 512M of swap
each  that are not being mounted because this machine isn't carrying much load
right now.

  /root # vmstat
 procs  memory pagedisks faults  cpu
 r b w avm   fre  flt  re  pi  po  fr  sr ad0 ad2   in   sy  cs us sy id
 0 2 0  118972 15100  849   0   1   0 834   4   0   0  414 3136 599 33  8 59

It really seems to be related to my upgrading to XFree86-4.0.2_3 and KDE-2.  If
no one else is seeing it, it isn't critical and with patience it'll show itself
with a little time.

Thanks,

ed 

Quoting John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> On 10-Jan-01 Edwin Culp wrote:
> > I am starting to get the following error.  I've never seen it before and
> > don't
> > really understand why it should fail.  Where should I start looking for
> the
> > problem?  
> > 
> > /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed
> > 
> > This seems to have started in the last week.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> 
> You are running out of swap space.  Run fewer programs, buy more memory,
> add
> more swap space, or a combo of the three.
> 
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Re: Problem installing on T20

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel C. Sobral

Wm Brian McCane wrote:
> 
> I have an IBM T20 laptop that I want to run FreeBSD on.  I have run

[etc]

You have a problem which is technically called an "IBM laptop". IBM, in
their infinite wisdom, decided to hibernate on the first partition it
doesn't recognize (hypothesis #1) or on the first partition identified
as 165 decimal (hypothesis #2). Whatever the case is, when the shitty
thing boots, the BIOS checks said partition to see if the system had
hybernated. Upon finding stuff there (the FreeBSD partition), it does
something which screws the system and locks up.

One possible fix to enable normal operation is creating an hybernate
partition explicitly and a FreeBSD partition *after* that. You should be
able to find out from IBM how to create an hybernate partition. If not,
check the next fix.

Another fix some people have resorted to is returning the laptop for a
refund and, optionally, never again buying from IBM. You might also
explain to them why you are doing so, but IBM does not support FreeBSD,
so, technically speaking, they are not required to make it compatible
with FreeBSD.

Legend goes that Linux had the same problem at first (which is the
origin of hypothesis #1) and got fixed by having IBM add their partition
numbers to to BIOS as recognized partition numbers. It's beyond my
ability to understand why they refuse to fix the #%'&%$%'& BIOS so it
would use a SAFE hybernate partition number (like the one they used
before).

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RE: /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

2001-01-10 Thread John Baldwin


On 11-Jan-01 Edwin Culp wrote:
> Thanks, John.  I wish that it were that simple, that is if I am interpreting
> pstat and vmstat correctly.

It might be asking for more swap space than you have.  I.e., it may need mroe
than 256 meg of swap.  :(

> 
> /root # pstat -s
> Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
> /dev/rad0s2b   2620160   262016 0%Interleaved
> 
> I have two another disks that aren't being used with an additional 512M of
> swap
> each  that are not being mounted because this machine isn't carrying much
> load
> right now.
> 
>   /root # vmstat
>  procs  memory pagedisks faults  cpu
>  r b w avm   fre  flt  re  pi  po  fr  sr ad0 ad2   in   sy  cs us sy id
>  0 2 0  118972 15100  849   0   1   0 834   4   0   0  414 3136 599 33  8 59 
> 
> It really seems to be related to my upgrading to XFree86-4.0.2_3 and KDE-2. 
> If
> no one else is seeing it, it isn't critical and with patience it'll show
> itself
> with a little time.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ed 
> 
> Quoting John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> 
>> On 10-Jan-01 Edwin Culp wrote:
>> > I am starting to get the following error.  I've never seen it before and
>> > don't
>> > really understand why it should fail.  Where should I start looking for
>> the
>> > problem?  
>> > 
>> > /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed
>> > 
>> > This seems to have started in the last week.
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> 
>> You are running out of swap space.  Run fewer programs, buy more memory,
>> add
>> more swap space, or a combo of the three.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Problem installing on T20

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Wemm

"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
> Wm Brian McCane wrote:
> > 
> > I have an IBM T20 laptop that I want to run FreeBSD on.  I have run
> 
> [etc]
> 
> You have a problem which is technically called an "IBM laptop". IBM, in
> their infinite wisdom, decided to hibernate on the first partition it
> doesn't recognize (hypothesis #1) or on the first partition identified
> as 165 decimal (hypothesis #2). Whatever the case is, when the shitty
> thing boots, the BIOS checks said partition to see if the system had
> hybernated. Upon finding stuff there (the FreeBSD partition), it does
> something which screws the system and locks up.

Well, I can definatively answer one thing.  If you change the partition ID
to 166 and change the boot code to boot from that, then the laptops are just
happy.  Paul Saab has an A20 or A21 something that has this problem and he
changed nothing but the partition ID to 166 and it solved the problem.

As far as I'm concerned, this pretty much clinches the need to provide an
alternate partition id booting capability so that people can enter 166
(openbsd) or 175 (believed free) when sysinstall is doing the setup and
the bootblocks will just deal with it.

Cheers,
-Peter
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Re: Problem installing on T20

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel C. Sobral

Wm Brian McCane wrote:
> 
> I have an IBM T20 laptop that I want to run FreeBSD on.  I have run

BTW, I just found that this is covered on the FAQ.

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Re: Problem installing on T20

2001-01-10 Thread Russell L. Carter

%Wm Brian McCane wrote:
%> 
%> I have an IBM T20 laptop that I want to run FreeBSD on.  I have run
%
%BTW, I just found that this is covered on the FAQ.

Otay, I must be blind.  Where in http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/book.html
is this?

Thanks!
Russell


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Re: Problem installing on T20

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel C. Sobral

"Russell L. Carter" wrote:
> 
> %Wm Brian McCane wrote:
> %>
> %> I have an IBM T20 laptop that I want to run FreeBSD on.  I have run
> %
> %BTW, I just found that this is covered on the FAQ.
> 
> Otay, I must be blind.  Where in http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/book.html
> is this?

MMmmm. I think I have gone blind too. Beats me. I was reading december
e-mail when I just stumbled on a thread about the same problem, where it
was mentioned it had been added to the FAQ. Well, I can't seem to find
any reference either.

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sysinstall.8 Breaking buildworld

2001-01-10 Thread Crist J. Clark

I had some buildworld failures earlier this week. In
src/share/man/man8 the Makefile includes code to get the sysinstall.8
manpage. Since the manpage lives in src/release, this requires that
you CVSup src-release. I had not been. This broke buildworld which had
worked in the past. sysinstall.8 is the only file in src-release that
is required for a buildworld. It seems somewhat silly to me that you
are required to grab the whole thing for that one file.

I made the change to the Makefile which makes sysinstall.8 and
src-release optional. I included it in a reply to the PR that
precipitated the change,

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19818

Steven G. Kargl ealier, independently submitted the almost exact same
thing,

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24122

In a separate PR.

Anyone have a good reason why everyone _must_ have src-release to
buildworld? 
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