Re: can someone explain this change to bsd.lib.mk ?

2002-03-09 Thread Luigi Rizzo

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:26:16PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luigi Rizzo writes:
 : The attached portion of the 1.100 - 1.101 patch to src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk
 ...
 : I wonder, how does a make world get around this problem
 : (so i can try to reproduce the 'fix' in the picobsd script) ?
 
 Make world gets around this problem by doing things in stages so that
 the build tools are built first using the host environment, then the
 target binaries are built using the host tools.
  
you mean the newly built tools, right ?

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Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-09 Thread Doug Rabson

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Matthew Jacob wrote:


 And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up.

I managed to panic my 4-cpu 4100 yesterday with a 'make -j8 buildworld'
I'm going to look at that today.

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Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-09 Thread Chris Hedley

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Chris Hedley wrote:
... about a crash ...

Just in case anyone needs to know, I had another couple of panics today
when trying to newfs_msdos /dev/fd0, seems something in readdisklabel
isn't too happy.

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New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Kris Kennaway

I've uploaded a new set of packages to ftp-master for -current on
i386; they should be picked up by the mirrors shortly.  As I mentioned
in a previous mail, there were compilation problems which caused a
number of ports to fail, including qt2 and gnomelibs, meaning there
were no KDE or GNOME packages built (hey, at least it's a symmetric
failure!).

The failures were caused by compiled utilities dumping core with sig11
or sig10 during compilation of the port.  Toolchain people, please
look into this; the error logs are at

  http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/

I also tried upgrading to a more recent 5.0 snapshot in which to
perform the builds, but it seems there have been syscall changes and
you can no longer cheat and run a 5.0 world inside a chroot on a 4.x
machine: for example, sh dies with signal 12.

Perhaps I'll have to upgrade the cluster to 5.0 to do the package
building after all, but that on its own won't fix the toolchain
problems.

Kris






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gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste

Hi

Gvim will link against nonexistent libraries, some of them seem to
be derived from libXThrStub library name and some Xlib function
names, very weird. I'm unable to build working gvim either from
ports or by hand, also doesn't matter is it newest version or older
6.0 release. First thought something is wrong with my hand-compiled
XFree 4.2.0, but it isn't, XFree-4 port gave same results. I've
-current as of yesterday, certainly past of the latest md5-crypt.c
bug..
In the light of past events it seems to be something with linker or
perhaps binutils. Non-X vim will work fine.

myhakas:root# pwd
/opt/portbuild/usr/ports/editors/vim/work/vim61a/src
myhakas:root# ls -la vim
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1202570 Mar  9 15:01 vim
myhakas:root# ldd vim
vim:
libXaw.so.7 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0x28158000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x281ab000)
libncurses.so.5 = /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x281b8000)
libc.so.5 = /usr/lib/libc.so.5 (0x281fa000)
libXThrStub.XDeleteProperty = not found (0x0)
libXThrStubXtVaGetValues = not found (0x0)
libXThrStub.XDefaultScreen = not found (0x0)
libXThrStub.XpmFreeAttributes = not found (0x0)
libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x282b)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x282c5000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x2830e000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28317000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2832d000)
libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x283e5000)
libXThrStub.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x283f3000)
myhakas:root# exit
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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 03:36:20PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
 Hi
 
 Gvim will link against nonexistent libraries, some of them seem to
 be derived from libXThrStub library name and some Xlib function
 names, very weird. I'm unable to build working gvim either from
 ports or by hand, also doesn't matter is it newest version or older
 6.0 release. 

Update your -CURRENT.  I noticed this problem a month or two ago,
but with a recent build of -CURRENT, gvim finally works again.

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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 07:39:00AM -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Update your -CURRENT.  I noticed this problem a month or two ago,
 but with a recent build of -CURRENT, gvim finally works again.

Hm, thanks for confirming, but I'm running the very latest -current
as I wrote. Actually I've switched back to -current some weeks ago
after using -stable for a while because -current was very unstable
after beginnings of SMPng. To be clear I did fresh install of the
-current snapshot which I found in ftp.ee.freebsd.org, not 4.5-
-current upgrade. I've built several worlds and kernels from that
onward.
Any hints? Seems like some environment configuration problem or
latent bug somewhere..
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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Simon Dick

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 03:55:13PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 07:39:00AM -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Update your -CURRENT.  I noticed this problem a month or two ago,
  but with a recent build of -CURRENT, gvim finally works again.
 
 Hm, thanks for confirming, but I'm running the very latest -current
 as I wrote. Actually I've switched back to -current some weeks ago
 after using -stable for a while because -current was very unstable
 after beginnings of SMPng. To be clear I did fresh install of the
 -current snapshot which I found in ftp.ee.freebsd.org, not 4.5-
 -current upgrade. I've built several worlds and kernels from that
 onward.
 Any hints? Seems like some environment configuration problem or
 latent bug somewhere..

I just rebuild my current today and gvim has started working for me
again now

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Re: binutils (libintl.h) problem (was: weird binutils problem)

2002-03-09 Thread Hiten Pandya


 Please verify my hypothesis by applying this patch:


 Index: contrib/binutils/bfd/sysdep.h
 ===
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/binutils/bfd/sysdep.h,v
 retrieving revision 1.1.1.6
 diff -u -r1.1.1.6 sysdep.h
 --- contrib/binutils/bfd/sysdep.h 27 Jan 2002 11:58:14 -
 1.1.1.6
 +++ contrib/binutils/bfd/sysdep.h 9 Mar 2002 03:22:17 -
  -132,6 +132,7 
 #endif
  
   #ifdef ENABLE_NLS
   +#error ENABLE_NLS defined !!
#include libintl.h
/* Note the use of dgetext() and PACKAGE here, rather than
 * gettext().

Hi,

I have tested your patch, and it seems it gives me the following output,
which I beleive, is trying to say that ENABLE_NLS has been defined
somewhere. :(


-- start of attached log --
make  all-recursive
Making all in doc
Making all in po
/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. 
-I. -I./../include  -I./../intl -I../intl   -W -Wall -g -O2 -c archive.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -I./../intl 
-I../intl -W -Wall -g -O2 -c archive.c -o archive.o
In file included from archive.c:131:
sysdep.h:135: #error ENABLE_NLS defined !!
sysdep.h:136: libintl.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /data/dev/src/contrib/binutils/bfd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /data/dev/src/contrib/binutils/bfd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /data/dev/src/contrib/binutils/bfd.
-- end of attached log --

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Re: binutils (libintl.h) problem (was: weird binutils problem)

2002-03-09 Thread Hiten Pandya

--- David Wolfskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not obrien, but yes, that is exactly what it means.

Hmm, but I haven't defined it anywhere, and trust me on that, as I
cvsup'ed a clean copy of the 'src' tree today, an deleting the old one.

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Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-09 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

I'm able to compile kdelibs now, no problem as well as QT, but when I run
configure on kdebase it locks my system up.  I can switch terminals but
that's it.  It locks up on configure when detecting QT(I believe line 5612).
The first time it did this I decided that was because I need to rebuild QT,
so I did that, but it still locks up.  Is anyone else seeing this with a
very recent -current?


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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:35:20AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 I've uploaded a new set of packages to ftp-master for -current on
 i386; they should be picked up by the mirrors shortly.  As I mentioned
 in a previous mail, there were compilation problems which caused a
 number of ports to fail, including qt2 and gnomelibs, meaning there
 were no KDE or GNOME packages built (hey, at least it's a symmetric
 failure!).

QT built fine for me with a -current as of yesterday night, and so 
does kdelibs, but as I posted earlier kdebase locks up the system on 
configure, but I believe this is known as the (Subject: Keyboard 
(quasi-)lockup running script) or sounds similar.
 
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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 03:36:20PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
 Gvim will link against nonexistent libraries, some of them seem to
 be derived from libXThrStub library name and some Xlib function

What revision of port/editors/vim/Makefile do you have?

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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:35:20AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 The failures were caused by compiled utilities dumping core with sig11
 or sig10 during compilation of the port.  Toolchain people, please
 look into this; the error logs are at

I am not sure we can say anything about the errors due to the 5.0 world
under a 4.5 kernel.  Can you update just one of the slaves to very
-current and try some manual builds of the most problematic failing
ports?

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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:35:20AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
   http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/

This isn't good:

http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/TenDRA-4.1.2.log

building TenDRA-4.1.2 on gohan17
in directory /x/tmp/5/chroot/31459
with arguments: TenDRA-4.1.2.tgz /usr/ports/lang/TenDRA
maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
build started at Sat Mar  9 00:37:43 GMT 2002
...
Operating system version = 4.4-STABLE

I thought uname was faked out to return the proper value.
I wonder if things like this could be one of the problems.

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kern_linker.c rev. 1.75 and newer cause loading problem

2002-03-09 Thread Steve Kargl

Well, I finally have narrowed the problem down to

Revision 1.75 Fri Feb 22 04:14:49 2002 UTC (2 weeks, 1 day ago) by arr 
Branch: MAIN 
Changes since 1.74: +1295 -1271 lines
Diff to previous 1.74 (colored)

- Massive style fixup.

Reviewed by: mike
Approved by: dfr



To recap:

root[202] cat /boot/loader.conf
miibus_load=YES
if_rl_load=YES
snd_pcm_load=YES
snd_maestro3_load=YES
linux_load=YES
agp_load=YES
hint.acpi.0.disable=1
root[203] kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   12 0xc010 262e40   kernel
 21 0xc0363000 18330linux.ko
 32 0xc037c000 15480miibus.ko
 41 0xc0392000 7798 if_rl.ko
 52 0xc039a000 1a14csnd_pcm.ko
 61 0xc03b5000 9538 snd_maestro3.ko
 71 0xc03bf000 c860 agp.ko
 81 0xcb052000 2000 blank_saver.ko
root[204] kldload linprocfs
kldload: can't load linprocfs: Exec format error
root[206] tail -1 /var/log/messages
Mar  9 10:00:27 kernel: KLD linprocfs.ko: depends on \
linux - not available

root[209] kldunload linux
root[210] kldload linux
root[211] kldload linprocfs
root[213] kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   15 0xc010 262e40   kernel
 32 0xc037c000 15480miibus.ko
 41 0xc0392000 7798 if_rl.ko
 52 0xc039a000 1a14csnd_pcm.ko
 61 0xc03b5000 9538 snd_maestro3.ko
 71 0xc03bf000 c860 agp.ko
 81 0xcb052000 2000 blank_saver.ko
 92 0xcb425000 14000linux.ko
101 0xcab88000 5000 linprocfs.ko

If I back up to revision 1.74 of kern_linker.c, then
this problem of Exec format error and KLD linprocfs.ko:
depends on linux - not available goes away.


As the commit message for revision 1.75 states Massive
style fixup, I suspect a typo slipped in.  However,
this is a +1200 line diff and I haven't been able to
find it.

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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:55:50AM -0800, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 03:36:20PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
  Gvim will link against nonexistent libraries, some of them seem to
  be derived from libXThrStub library name and some Xlib function
 
 What revision of port/editors/vim/Makefile do you have?

/usr/ports/editors/vim/Makefile:
 $FreeBSD: ports/editors/vim/Makefile,v 1.185 2002/03/04 21:13:20 obrien Exp $
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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 02:19:40PM +, Simon Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Any hints? Seems like some environment configuration problem or
  latent bug somewhere..
 
 I just rebuild my current today and gvim has started working for me
 again now

I did cvsup, world and new kernel, just in case.. but it really
doesn't matter. Same problem.
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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Olivier Houchard

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 02:19:40PM +, Simon Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Any hints? Seems like some environment configuration problem or
   latent bug somewhere..
  
  I just rebuild my current today and gvim has started working for me
  again now
 
 I did cvsup, world and new kernel, just in case.. but it really
 doesn't matter. Same problem.
You may try to compile vim with ./configure --disable-xim too.
It worked for me.

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Re: gvim weird linkage

2002-03-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:42:07PM +0100, Olivier Houchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  I did cvsup, world and new kernel, just in case.. but it really
  doesn't matter. Same problem.
 You may try to compile vim with ./configure --disable-xim too.
 It worked for me.

Tried without XIM support only, then without multibyte, fontset and
XIM support, no joy. Exactly same linkage happens. Perhaps I should
also note that using Motif for GUI will not change anything.
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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:00:10AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:35:20AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/
 
 This isn't good:
 
 http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/TenDRA-4.1.2.log
 
 building TenDRA-4.1.2 on gohan17
 in directory /x/tmp/5/chroot/31459
 with arguments: TenDRA-4.1.2.tgz /usr/ports/lang/TenDRA
 maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 build started at Sat Mar  9 00:37:43 GMT 2002
 ...
 Operating system version = 4.4-STABLE
 
 I thought uname was faked out to return the proper value.

Hmm, I thought it was too..let me look into it.

 I wonder if things like this could be one of the problems.

Kris




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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Will Andrews

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:00:10AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
 This isn't good:
 
 http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/TenDRA-4.1.2.log
 
 building TenDRA-4.1.2 on gohan17
 in directory /x/tmp/5/chroot/31459
 with arguments: TenDRA-4.1.2.tgz /usr/ports/lang/TenDRA
 maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 build started at Sat Mar  9 00:37:43 GMT 2002
 ...
 Operating system version = 4.4-STABLE
 
 I thought uname was faked out to return the proper value.
 I wonder if things like this could be one of the problems.

More like, the port builds in a chroot which contains the
environment of a 5.0 world.  So the chroot tarball for 5.0 being
used here must be the wrong one, or it's screwed up.

Thanks for pointing this out.

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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Robert Watson


On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Will Andrews wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:00:10AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
  This isn't good:
  
  http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/TenDRA-4.1.2.log
  
  building TenDRA-4.1.2 on gohan17
  in directory /x/tmp/5/chroot/31459
  with arguments: TenDRA-4.1.2.tgz /usr/ports/lang/TenDRA
  maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  build started at Sat Mar  9 00:37:43 GMT 2002
  ...
  Operating system version = 4.4-STABLE
  
  I thought uname was faked out to return the proper value.
  I wonder if things like this could be one of the problems.
 
 More like, the port builds in a chroot which contains the environment of
 a 5.0 world.  So the chroot tarball for 5.0 being used here must be the
 wrong one, or it's screwed up. 

uname extracts the various strings it can report from the running kernel
using sysctl.  Unless you have a faked uname, it will return the
properties of the host non-chroot environment, rather than the chroot
environment.  Increasingly, it's going to be harder and harder to run 5.0
in a 4.x chroot, due to divergence in system calls, especially once
threaded applications start using KSE.  Running 4.x in a 5.0 chroot should
(hopefully) continue to work fine. 

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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Will Andrews

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 07:30:21PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote:
 uname extracts the various strings it can report from the running kernel
 using sysctl.  Unless you have a faked uname, it will return the
 properties of the host non-chroot environment, rather than the chroot
 environment.  Increasingly, it's going to be harder and harder to run 5.0
 in a 4.x chroot, due to divergence in system calls, especially once
 threaded applications start using KSE.  Running 4.x in a 5.0 chroot should
 (hopefully) continue to work fine. 

You are right.  I made a thinko, and later realized it while
talking to Kris.  I was hoping nobody would notice... :)

We are screwed if anybody uses sysctl() or sysctlbyname(), unless
someone decides to allow us to change kernel variables and the
like inside chroot() (or perhaps jail())..

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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:58:05AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:35:20AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  The failures were caused by compiled utilities dumping core with sig11
  or sig10 during compilation of the port.  Toolchain people, please
  look into this; the error logs are at
 
 I am not sure we can say anything about the errors due to the 5.0 world
 under a 4.5 kernel.  Can you update just one of the slaves to very
 -current and try some manual builds of the most problematic failing
 ports?

Yep, I'll try that next once the current build finishes.

Kris



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Upgrading to 5-CURRENT via sources

2002-03-09 Thread Lamont Granquist


So, I've got a CVS checkout of 5-CURRENT on my 4.5-STABLE box and I'd like
to upgrade to a spare partition that I have on the machine (making it dual
boot).  Can I just do:

make world DESTDIR=/mnt/tmp

And then build + drop the kernel into place + reboot?


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Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 07:30:21PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote:
 uname extracts the various strings it can report from the running kernel
 using sysctl.  Unless you have a faked uname, it will return the

The cluster has used a faked out uname(1) for a long time.
The problem turned out to be with its generation by the scripts.

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Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-09 Thread Murray Stokely

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 04:55:29PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 One thing to keep in mind here is that this is still going to be
 a snapshot of -current, and not a production release of -stable.
 We want a snapshot that does not have any serious problems, but
 innocent users should still realize that there are definitely
 going to be a lot of loose ends and rough edges around.

Exactly.  This text was included on the back of the 5.0 snapshot CDROM
from last year :

  The FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT SNAPshots are works in progress, and are
   intended solely for developers who are developing software on
   FreeBSD. There are no guarantees about the stability of these
   snapshot releases, although we make every attempt to thoroughly
   test the releases before production.

It's hard for me to have sympathy for a user who doesn't read the
warning labels posted all over the CD and release documentation.

  - Murray

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