FYI: ACPI buffer overflow

2010-10-17 Thread Hans Petter Selasky

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Subject: Re: MacBookPro 5,1
Date: Sunday 17 October 2010, 15:47:56
From: Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net
To: freebsd-a...@freebsd.org
CC: linux-a...@vger.kernel.org

Hi,

CC'ing the Linux guys, hence I belive you are using the same ACPI code like in 
FreeBSD.

It appears that when a string is present in the extended interrupt descriptor 
(6.4.3.6, ACPIspec30.pdf), then this is not handled correctly, meaning that 
the precomputed buffer space when encoding to AML, is incorrect and that data 
is written beyond the destination buffer!

The error is catched on a MacBookPro 5,1 and is visible if you zero-pad all 
ACPI allocations to 4096 bytes, and verify that the freed buffer is not 
written beyond the allocation. Also the Extended interrupt descriptor must be 
the last element encoded in the AML.

The quick patch is to disable these elements. I tried to figure out why this 
happens, but this particular handling in the code looks very obfuscated to me.

src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica
%svk diff
=== resources/rsmisc.c
==
--- resources/rsmisc.c  (revision 213698)
+++ resources/rsmisc.c  (local)
@@ -311,6 +311,8 @@
 
 
 case ACPI_RSC_SOURCEX:
+   break;  /* RSC_SOURCEX is broken */
+
 /*
  * Optional ResourceSource (Index and String). This is the more
  * complicated case used by the Interrupt() macro
@@ -537,6 +539,8 @@
 
 
 case ACPI_RSC_SOURCEX:
+   break;  /* RSC_SOURCEX is broken */
+
 /*
  * Optional ResourceSource (Index and String)
  */


Any comments are welcome!

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bge0 does not work anymore

2010-10-17 Thread Rainer Hurling
I am using FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT (amd64) on a DELL Latitude D630. With 
todays kernel the driver 'bge0' does not work anymore. With kernel from 
October 9th it does.


The network controller is a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC 
rev. 0x00a002; CHIP ID 0xa0002; ASIC REV 0x0a; CHIP REV 0xa0; PCI-E.


The entry in /etc/rc.conf is 'ifconfig_bge0=DHCP.

Does anyone else observe this behaviour? Is there something I can try?

Thanks in advance,
Rainer Hurling
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Re: bge0 does not work anymore

2010-10-17 Thread Manfred Antar
At 09:06 AM 10/17/2010, Rainer Hurling wrote:
I am using FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT (amd64) on a DELL Latitude D630. With todays 
kernel the driver 'bge0' does not work anymore. With kernel from October 9th 
it does.

The network controller is a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 
0x00a002; CHIP ID 0xa0002; ASIC REV 0x0a; CHIP REV 0xa0; PCI-E.

The entry in /etc/rc.conf is 'ifconfig_bge0=DHCP.

Does anyone else observe this behaviour? Is there something I can try?

Thanks in advance,
Rainer Hurling

Same here, the last time it worked was Oct 14. with Current source.
uname -a :
FreeBSD pozo.com 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Oct 14 14:13:47 PDT 
2010 r...@pozo.com:/sys/i386/compile/COMPAQ  i386
i have ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 in rc.conf

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Re: Setting up IPv6 in /etc/rc.conf

2010-10-17 Thread Chris Ruiz
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Mark Murray ma...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Bjoern A. Zeeb writes:
 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Mark Murray wrote:

  Alexey Shuvaev writes:
  gifconfig_gif0_ipv6=2001:::::2 2001:::::1 
  prefixlen 128
                                    
  I suppose you should prefix it with inet6 keyword.
  There are 2 examples in rc.conf (search for Sample IPv6).
 
  Ah!
 
  It didn't occur to me that I might need TWO inet6's! I'll give that a go 
  when
  I play with this again tomorrow.

 It's just one inet6; put there what you would pass to ifconfig on the
 command line.  The fact that ifconfig defaults to inet is the
 problem leading to more confusion.

 In which case, I'm back to square one. What should work doesn't.

 I have the necessary commands in /etc/rc.local to bring up IPv6.

 I think the samples in defaults/rc.conf will be more clear soon.

 Cool! Thanks.

You have a few syntax errors in your rc.conf, try these adjustments
and everything should work (as it works for me on a recent CURRENT.)

gif_interfaces=gif0
gifconfig_gif0=192.168.0.2 11.22.33.44
ifconfig_gif0_ipv6=inet6 2001:::::2
2001:::::1 prefixlen 128
ipv6_defaultrouter=2001:::::1


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Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Doug Barton
Y'all will probably recall that I had a lot of problems with the 
nvidia-driver, and video generally (esp. flash) on i386 -current. Well I 
haven't had any problems recently because I haven't been using FreeBSD. 
:)  But I have things I need to catch up on, so here's what I did:


1. Bought a new hard drive, and installed a snapshot of amd64 -current 
(this was actually done a while ago).
2. Yesterday I started configuring stuff, updated my source and ports 
trees, rebuilt the world, customized the kernel, etc.
3. With a newly up to date system I built the latest version of the 
nvidia-driver port, and started using it.


My experience with it has been exactly the same as older versions of the 
port on previous versions of i386 -current. Sometimes it runs fine for a 
while, but when I exit the window manager (openbox) the system hangs and 
I never get back to the command prompt. (I'm using startx to try and 
minimize the number of variables.) Sometimes it will work fine for an 
hour, maybe two, then the whole thing just hangs. All the stuff is 
displayed on the screen, but the mouse won't move, I can't zap X, or 
even switch to the console. I have to power off. This is particularly 
frustrating because I haven't even loaded flash (or for that matter 
firefox) yet.


Windows and linux (ubuntu, with the nvidia driver) work great on this 
same hardware, so I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that the problem is 
with freebsd/current somewhere. In addition to the -current partition I 
also installed amd64 8.1-RELEASE so I'll give that a go next, but I 
wanted to ask here first if anyone else was having problems on -current.



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Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Ralph Ellis

Doug Barton wrote:
Y'all will probably recall that I had a lot of problems with the 
nvidia-driver, and video generally (esp. flash) on i386 -current. Well 
I haven't had any problems recently because I haven't been using 
FreeBSD. :)  But I have things I need to catch up on, so here's what I 
did:


1. Bought a new hard drive, and installed a snapshot of amd64 -current 
(this was actually done a while ago).
2. Yesterday I started configuring stuff, updated my source and ports 
trees, rebuilt the world, customized the kernel, etc.
3. With a newly up to date system I built the latest version of the 
nvidia-driver port, and started using it.


My experience with it has been exactly the same as older versions of 
the port on previous versions of i386 -current. Sometimes it runs fine 
for a while, but whe n I exit the window manager (openbox) the system 
hangs and I never get back to the command prompt. (I'm using startx to 
try and minimize the number of variables.) Sometimes it will work fine 
for an hour, maybe two, then the whole thing just hangs. All the stuff 
is displayed on the screen, but the mouse won't move, I can't zap X, 
or even switch to the console. I have to power off. This is 
particularly frustrating because I haven't even loaded flash (or for 
that matter firefox) yet.


Windows and linux (ubuntu, with the nvidia driver) work great on this 
same hardware, so I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that the problem is 
with freebsd/current somewhere. In addition to the -current partition 
I also installed amd64 8.1-RELEASE so I'll give that a go next, but I 
wanted to ask here first if anyone else was having problems on -current.



Doug

I am currently running the Nvidia  195 driver on amd64 9 - current from 
the ports tree. It works without problems.
When I tried to compile the 256 driver, it would not compile and said 
that it was not meant to work with 9 - current.

Hope this helps.
Ralph Ellis
ralphell...@netscape.ca


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Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Alexander Best
On Sun Oct 17 10, Ralph Ellis wrote:
 Doug Barton wrote:
 Y'all will probably recall that I had a lot of problems with the 
 nvidia-driver, and video generally (esp. flash) on i386 -current. Well 
 I haven't had any problems recently because I haven't been using 
 FreeBSD. :)  But I have things I need to catch up on, so here's what I 
 did:
 
 1. Bought a new hard drive, and installed a snapshot of amd64 -current 
 (this was actually done a while ago).
 2. Yesterday I started configuring stuff, updated my source and ports 
 trees, rebuilt the world, customized the kernel, etc.
 3. With a newly up to date system I built the latest version of the 
 nvidia-driver port, and started using it.
 
 My experience with it has been exactly the same as older versions of 
 the port on previous versions of i386 -current. Sometimes it runs fine 
 for a while, but whe n I exit the window manager (openbox) the system 
 hangs and I never get back to the command prompt. (I'm using startx to 
 try and minimize the number of variables.) Sometimes it will work fine 
 for an hour, maybe two, then the whole thing just hangs. All the stuff 
 is displayed on the screen, but the mouse won't move, I can't zap X, 
 or even switch to the console. I have to power off. This is 
 particularly frustrating because I haven't even loaded flash (or for 
 that matter firefox) yet.
 
 Windows and linux (ubuntu, with the nvidia driver) work great on this 
 same hardware, so I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that the problem is 
 with freebsd/current somewhere. In addition to the -current partition 
 I also installed amd64 8.1-RELEASE so I'll give that a go next, but I 
 wanted to ask here first if anyone else was having problems on -current.
 
 
 Doug
 
 I am currently running the Nvidia  195 driver on amd64 9 - current from 
 the ports tree. It works without problems.
 When I tried to compile the 256 driver, it would not compile and said 
 that it was not meant to work with 9 - current.

i'm running 256.52 on HEAD (amd64) without any issues. the 260.X drivers all
freze my computer when i exit X.

it's quite easy to work around the isse that the nvidia drivers fail to compile
on HEAD. simply change the line #if __FreeBSD_version = 90 in
src/nv-freebsd.h to #if __FreeBSD_version = 100.

cheers.
alex

 Hope this helps.
 Ralph Ellis
 ralphell...@netscape.ca
 
 

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Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Rob Farmer
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 15:55, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Windows and linux (ubuntu, with the nvidia driver) work great on this same
 hardware, so I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that the problem is with
 freebsd/current somewhere. In addition to the -current partition I also
 installed amd64 8.1-RELEASE so I'll give that a go next, but I wanted to ask
 here first if anyone else was having problems on -current.

I am running 256.53 on amd64 current (r213747). I don't use anything
linux (the module isn't loaded) and built the driver with all options
off except ACPI_PM. My custom kernel does not have device agp.

I use XFCE 4, don't really run anything graphically intense, and
shutdown at night. I haven't had any problems, but IIRC from your past
threads, the issues sort of build over time so I simply may not be
aggravating the problem enough.

The system is a HP Pavillion dv6405us laptop with a GeForce Go 6150.
This is a pretty crappy card, even in Windows (the whole system was
$500 3 years ago - it was one of those computers that supposedly was
Vista Ready but could barely boot it), so I doubt I am gaining much
over vesa though.

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Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Rob Farmer
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 16:18, Ralph Ellis ralphell...@netscape.ca wrote:
 I am currently running the Nvidia  195 driver on amd64 9 - current from the
 ports tree. It works without problems.
 When I tried to compile the 256 driver, it would not compile and said that
 it was not meant to work with 9 - current.

Some necessary support was removed recently, but it has be re-added.
See r213739.

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Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Mattia Rossi

On 18/10/2010 10:18, Ralph Ellis wrote:

Doug Barton wrote:

Y'all will probably recall that I had a lot of problems with the
nvidia-driver, and video generally (esp. flash) on i386 -current. Well
I haven't had any problems recently because I haven't been using
FreeBSD. :) But I have things I need to catch up on, so here's what I
did:

1. Bought a new hard drive, and installed a snapshot of amd64 -current
(this was actually done a while ago).
2. Yesterday I started configuring stuff, updated my source and ports
trees, rebuilt the world, customized the kernel, etc.
3. With a newly up to date system I built the latest version of the
nvidia-driver port, and started using it.

My experience with it has been exactly the same as older versions of
the port on previous versions of i386 -current. Sometimes it runs fine
for a while, but whe n I exit the window manager (openbox) the system
hangs and I never get back to the command prompt. (I'm using startx to
try and minimize the number of variables.) Sometimes it will work fine
for an hour, maybe two, then the whole thing just hangs. All the stuff
is displayed on the screen, but the mouse won't move, I can't zap X,
or even switch to the console. I have to power off. This is
particularly frustrating because I haven't even loaded flash (or for
that matter firefox) yet.

Windows and linux (ubuntu, with the nvidia driver) work great on this
same hardware, so I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that the problem is
with freebsd/current somewhere. In addition to the -current partition
I also installed amd64 8.1-RELEASE so I'll give that a go next, but I
wanted to ask here first if anyone else was having problems on -current.


Doug


I am currently running the Nvidia 195 driver on amd64 9 - current from
the ports tree. It works without problems.
When I tried to compile the 256 driver, it would not compile and said
that it was not meant to work with 9 - current.
Hope this helps.
Ralph Ellis
ralphell...@netscape.ca




I have not had any trouble with the new Nvidia drivers at all - but I'm 
running i386, so it might be an amd64 issue.

No compilation issues at all, no problems running, switching to VT etc.

(and yes, I had the same problems as Doug a while ago)

Kernel and world are not from today, but fairly recent though:
FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #48 r213491M: Thu Oct  7

See:

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:06e4:1458:349c nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 
8400 GS] rev 161, Mem @ 0xf200/16777216, 0xe000/268435456, 
0xf000/33554432, I/O @ 0x2100/128, BIOS @ 0x/65536

(II) extmod will be loaded by default.
(II) dbe will be loaded by default.
(II) glx will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.

(II) record will be loaded by default.
(II) dri will be loaded by default.
(II) dri2 will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  256.53  Fri Aug 27 20:49:59 PDT 2010
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: extmod
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: dbe
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: record
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: dri2
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: nvidia
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
compiled 

Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Doug Barton

On 10/17/2010 4:49 PM, Rob Farmer wrote:

I am running 256.53 on amd64 current (r213747). I don't use anything
linux (the module isn't loaded) and built the driver with all options
off except ACPI_PM. My custom kernel does not have device agp.


Hmm. I had all the options off except linux. I'll try with your 
combination and see if that improves things.



Thanks,

Doug

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Re: bge0 does not work anymore

2010-10-17 Thread Buganini
my last known usable kernel revision is r213813
with r213920, leds are extinguished when executing dhclient

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Manfred Antar n...@pozo.com wrote:
 At 09:06 AM 10/17/2010, Rainer Hurling wrote:
I am using FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT (amd64) on a DELL Latitude D630. With todays 
kernel the driver 'bge0' does not work anymore. With kernel from October 9th 
it does.

The network controller is a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 
0x00a002; CHIP ID 0xa0002; ASIC REV 0x0a; CHIP REV 0xa0; PCI-E.

The entry in /etc/rc.conf is 'ifconfig_bge0=DHCP.

Does anyone else observe this behaviour? Is there something I can try?

Thanks in advance,
Rainer Hurling

 Same here, the last time it worked was Oct 14. with Current source.
 uname -a :
 FreeBSD pozo.com 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Oct 14 14:13:47 PDT 
 2010     r...@pozo.com:/sys/i386/compile/COMPAQ  i386
 i have ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 in rc.conf

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Re: Is nvidia-driver 256.53 expected to work on -current?

2010-10-17 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:32:00PM +, Alexander Best wrote:
 i'm running 256.52 on HEAD (amd64) without any issues. the 260.X drivers all
 freze my computer when i exit X.
 
 it's quite easy to work around the isse that the nvidia drivers fail to 
 compile
 on HEAD. simply change the line #if __FreeBSD_version = 90 in
 src/nv-freebsd.h to #if __FreeBSD_version = 100.

Or install from ports, which also patch the driver to support -CURRENT.

./danfe
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DTrace bindings are missing in FreeBSD 9.0 - CURRENT for userland apps

2010-10-17 Thread István
Hey,


I am not 100% sure this is the right list to approach with this problem but
let's try this one.

So I am trying to use dtrace on the previously mentioned system, I followed
the usual kernel rebuild process using the following wiki:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace

Dtrace works fine and I am able to trace the kernel.[1]


My problem is: I can't trace any user land application including PostgreSQL
and Ruby.

I added the following lines to the /etc/make.conf as it is written in the
wiki:

STRIP=
CFLAGS+=-fno-omit-frame-pointer

I compiled both of the softwares and trying to trace them but there are no
bindings in the dtrace -l ouput


# dtrace -l | grep -i ruby

i might have overlooked something important but not sure what.

Any help is appreciated. Pls cc my email since i am not on this list.


Thank you in advance.

I.

1.

[r...@freebsd9 ~]# uname -a
FreeBSD freebsd9 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Oct  8 21:09:20 UTC
2010 r...@freebsd9:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DTRACE  amd64
[r...@freebsd9 ~]# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   26 0x8010 f49bb0   kernel
 21 0x81212000 ad8  dtraceall.ko
 31 0x81213000 4a59 profile.ko
 4   11 0x81218000 3e2f opensolaris.ko
 53 0x8121c000 3db0 cyclic.ko
 69 0x8122 13af4b   dtrace.ko
 71 0x8135b000 fce0 systrace.ko
 81 0x8136b000 4128 sdt.ko
 91 0x8137 44b8 lockstat.ko
101 0x81375000 b94e fasttrap.ko
111 0x81381000 61ab fbt.ko
121 0x81388000 4a67 dtnfsclient.ko
131 0x8138d000 4118 dtmalloc.ko
[r...@freebsd9 ~]#

[r...@freebsd9 ~]# cat d.d
vfs:namecache:enter:done
{

@distribution = quantize(strlen((string)arg1));
}
[r...@freebsd9 ~]# dtrace -s d.d
dtrace: script 'd.d' matched 1 probe
^C


   value  - Distribution - count
   2 | 0
   4 |@@@  1
   8 |@5
  16 | 0


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2TB HDD = TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 ....

2010-10-17 Thread Darren Reed

As another body that today bought a 2TB HDD, I can confirm the presence
of kernel messages relating to READ_DMA48 with FreeBSD 8.
The drive in question is a Hitachi one, not a Samsung.

Is it the drive, system or operating system?

Well, the drive works without any such error with both Windows 7 and 
NetBSD 5.1.


So it looks like the finger is now pointing as a bug in FreeBSD... and 
if it is fixed in HEAD then it needs to be merged into the branch for 8.1.


Darren

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Re: [PATCH] Netdump for review and testing -- preliminary version

2010-10-17 Thread Bruce Evans

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Robert N. M. Watson wrote:


On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:39, Garrett Cooper wrote:


   But there are already some cases that aren't properly handled
today in the ddb area dealing with dumping that aren't handled
properly. Take for instance the following two scenarios:
1. Call doadump twice from the debugger.
2. Call doadump, exit the debugger, reenter the debugger, and call
doadump again.
   Both of these scenarios hang reliably for me.
   I'm not saying that we should regress things further, but I'm just
noting that there are most likely a chunk of edgecases that aren't
being handled properly when doing dumps that could be handled better /
fixed.


Even thinking about calling doadump even once from within the debugger is
an error.  I was asleep when the similar error for panic was committed,
and this error has propagated.  Debuggers should use a trampoline to
call the any function, not the least so that they can be used to debug
the any function without the extra complications to make themself
reentrant.  I think gdb has always used a trampoline for this outside of
the kernel.  Not sure what it does within the kernel, but it would have
even larger problems than in userland finding a place for the trampoline.
In the kernel, there is the additional problem of keeping control while
the any function is run.  Other CPUs must be kept stopped and interrupts
must be kept masked, except when the any function really needs other CPUs
or unmasked interrupts.  Single stepping also needs this and doesn't have
it (other CPUs and interrupt handlers can run and execute any number of
instructions while you are trying to execute a single one).  All ddb
commands that change the system state are really non-ddb commands that
should use an external function via a trampoline.  Panicing and dumping
are just the largest ones, so they are the most impossible to do correctly
as commands and the most in need of ddb to debug them.


Right: one of the points I've made to Attilio is that we need to move to a more 
principled model as to what sorts of things we allow in various kernel 
environments. The early boot is a special environment -- so is the debugger, 
but the debugger on panic is not the same as the debugger when you can 
continue. Likewise, the crash dumping code is special, but also not the same as 
the debugger. Right now, exceptional behaviour to limit hangs/etc is done 
inconsistently. We need to develop a set of principles that tell us what is 
permitted in what contexts, and then use that to drive design decisions, 
normalizing what's there already.


ENONUNIXEDITOR.  Format not recovered.

panic() from within a debugger (or a fast interrupt handler, or a fast
interrupt handler that has trappeded to the debugger by request...) is,
although an error, not too bad since panic() must be prepared to work
starting from the any state anyway, and as you mention it doesn'tneed
to be able to return (except for RESTARTABLE_PANICS, which makes things
impossibly difficult).  Continuing from a debugger is feasible mainly
because in the usual case the system state is not changed (except for
time-dependent things).  If you use it to modify memory or i/o or run
one of its unsafe commands then you have to be careful.


This is not dissimilar to what we do with locking already, BTW: we define a set 
of kernel environments (fast interrupt handlers, non-sleepable threads, 
sleepable thread holding non-sleepable locks, etc), and based on those 
principles prevent significant sources of instability that might otherwise 
arise in a complex, concurrent kernel. We need to apply the same sort of 
approach to handling kernel debugging and crashing.


Locking has imposed considerable discipline, which if followed by panic()
would should how wrong most of the things done by panic() are -- it will
hit locks, but shouldn't even be calling functions that have locks, since
such functions expect their locks to work.

The rules for fast interrupt handlers are simple and mostly not followed.
They are that a fast interrupt handler may not access any state not
specially locked by its subsystem.  This means that they may not call
any other subsystem or any upper layer except the null set of ones
documented to be safe to call.  In practice, this means not calling the
any function, but it is necessary for atomic ops, bus space accesses,
and a couple of scheduling functions to be safe enough.


BTW, my view is that except in very exceptional cases, it should not be 
possible to continue after generating a dump. Dumps often cause disk 
controllers to get reset, which may leave outstanding I/O in nasty situations. 
Unless the dump device and model is known not to interfere with operation, we 
should set state indicating that the system is non-continuable once a dump has 
occurred.


It might be safe if the system reinitialized everything.  Too hard for just
dumping, but it is needed after resume anyway.  So the following could
reasonably work:
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Re: 2TB HDD = TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 ....

2010-10-17 Thread Xin LI
Hi,

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Darren Reed darr...@fastmail.net wrote:
 As another body that today bought a 2TB HDD, I can confirm the presence
 of kernel messages relating to READ_DMA48 with FreeBSD 8.
 The drive in question is a Hitachi one, not a Samsung.

 Is it the drive, system or operating system?

 Well, the drive works without any such error with both Windows 7 and NetBSD
 5.1.

 So it looks like the finger is now pointing as a bug in FreeBSD... and if it
 is fixed in HEAD then it needs to be merged into the branch for 8.1.

Have you tried the new ahci(4) driver?  What controller are you using
by the way?

Cheers,
-- 
Xin LI delp...@delphij.net http://www.delphij.net
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Re: 2TB HDD = TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 ....

2010-10-17 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 14/10/2010 01:59 Darren Reed said the following:
 As another body that today bought a 2TB HDD, I can confirm the presence
 of kernel messages relating to READ_DMA48 with FreeBSD 8.

Sounds like sector number possibly overflowing 32-bit integer.

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