Re: WITH_BEARSSL: -8112 bytes available

2023-06-01 Thread Toomas Soome


> On 1. Jun 2023, at 11:30, Gary Jennejohn  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:41:23 -0600
> Warner Losh mailto:i...@bsdimp.com>> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 1:30?PM Gary Jennejohn  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 12:15:12 -0600
>>> Warner Losh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> [SNIP irrelevant text]
>>> 
 And no, I really do not want to support 'loadable modules'. BIOS booting
>>> is
 on the way out, and people
 that want to do complex stuff in the boot loader will simply have to do
 that in UEFI or maybe kboot/LinuxBoot.
>>> 
>>> So, what exactly does "BIOS booting is on the way out" mean?  I have four
>>> computers which use BIOS booting.  Three are too old to support UEFI and
>>> the other one I simply set to BIOS booting out of habit.
>>> 
>> 
>> New computers aren't supporting it. Its days are numbered. It's longevity is
>> much shorter than UEFI's. These are all indisputable. I'm not planning on
>> dropping it in 15, but the number of people that are using it is a declining
>> group over time. Time spent making EFI more effective will affect more
>> people. That's what I mean. So I don't want to sink a ton of time into it.
>> 
> 
> OK, that makes sense.  If it disappears after 15 I guess I'll have to
> maintain it myself.  Should be doable.
> 
> 

I have this change in my queue: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D40375

toomas



Re: WITH_BEARSSL: -8112 bytes available

2023-06-01 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:41:23 -0600
Warner Losh  wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 1:30?PM Gary Jennejohn  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 31 May 2023 12:15:12 -0600
> > Warner Losh  wrote:
> >
> > [SNIP irrelevant text]
> >
> > > And no, I really do not want to support 'loadable modules'. BIOS booting
> > is
> > > on the way out, and people
> > > that want to do complex stuff in the boot loader will simply have to do
> > > that in UEFI or maybe kboot/LinuxBoot.
> >
> > So, what exactly does "BIOS booting is on the way out" mean?  I have four
> > computers which use BIOS booting.  Three are too old to support UEFI and
> > the other one I simply set to BIOS booting out of habit.
> >
>
> New computers aren't supporting it. Its days are numbered. It's longevity is
> much shorter than UEFI's. These are all indisputable. I'm not planning on
> dropping it in 15, but the number of people that are using it is a declining
> group over time. Time spent making EFI more effective will affect more
> people. That's what I mean. So I don't want to sink a ton of time into it.
>

OK, that makes sense.  If it disappears after 15 I guess I'll have to
maintain it myself.  Should be doable.

--
Gary Jennejohn