Re: HST time zone

2023-07-25 Thread David Cornejo
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:01 AM Dimitry Andric  wrote:

> On 25 Jul 2023, at 22:26, David Cornejo  wrote:
> >
> > One thing that has bothered me for a long time is that the
> Pacific/Honolulu timezone is found under the America -- North and
> South/United States of America/Hawaii in tzsetup. Politics of Hawaiian
> Sovereignty aside, every other system I regularly install uses
> Pacific/Honolulu as it is in the official tzdb.
> >
> > Is there any reason why a patch to change to match the standard would be
> refused?
>
> Which version of FreeBSD are you using? On my 14-CURRENT box, Hawaii is
> actually found in *two* locations in tzsetup:
>
> * America -- North and South -> United States of America -> Hawaii
> * Pacific Ocean -> United States of America -> Hawaii
>

It just seems that the "standard" is Pacific/Honolulu and we are different
- in the IANA tz db, there is only mention of Pacific/Honolulu. While I'm
not saying they're correct, every Linux dist I've tried uses it. I have a
mixed shop, and every difference is a potential problem.

I doubt that this affects many people, so consistency would not seem a
hardship.

So that would serve all sides? :)
>
> As far as I can see, the menu is dynamically generated from
> /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone1970.tab, which has:
>
> US  +211825-1575130 Pacific/HonoluluHawaii
>
> and seems to be up-to-date with regards to the IANA tz files.
>
> -Dimitry
>
>


Re: HST time zone

2023-07-25 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 25 Jul 2023, at 22:26, David Cornejo  wrote:
> 
> One thing that has bothered me for a long time is that the Pacific/Honolulu 
> timezone is found under the America -- North and South/United States of 
> America/Hawaii in tzsetup. Politics of Hawaiian Sovereignty aside, every 
> other system I regularly install uses Pacific/Honolulu as it is in the 
> official tzdb.
> 
> Is there any reason why a patch to change to match the standard would be 
> refused?

Which version of FreeBSD are you using? On my 14-CURRENT box, Hawaii is 
actually found in *two* locations in tzsetup:

* America -- North and South -> United States of America -> Hawaii
* Pacific Ocean -> United States of America -> Hawaii

So that would serve all sides? :)

As far as I can see, the menu is dynamically generated from 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone1970.tab, which has:

US  +211825-1575130 Pacific/HonoluluHawaii

and seems to be up-to-date with regards to the IANA tz files.

-Dimitry



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HST time zone

2023-07-25 Thread David Cornejo
Hi,

One thing that has bothered me for a long time is that the Pacific/Honolulu
timezone is found under the America -- North and South/United States of
America/Hawaii in tzsetup. Politics of Hawaiian Sovereignty aside, every
other system I regularly install uses Pacific/Honolulu as it is in the
official tzdb.

Is there any reason why a patch to change to match the standard would be
refused?

thanks,
dave c

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Honolulu, Oʻahu, Hawaiʻi