Re: sendmail Broken Pipe Error
* Willy Offermans wi...@offermans.rompen.nl [2014-03-24 14:36]: Dear FreeBSD friends, Lately I have setup a new FreeBSD server with 10.0-STABLE. Most of it went smoothly. However I have an issue with sendmail. Some of the mails can be sent out correctly, some of them stay in /var/spool/mqueue/. The provided error messages are in the latter case: Mar 24 14:16:01 MyServer sm-mta[11725]: s2ODCWT4011717: SYSERR(root): timeout writing message to MyProvider.com: Broken pipe Mar 24 14:16:01 MyServer sm-mta[11725]: s2ODCWT4011717: to=someaddr...@example.com, delay=00:03:29, xdelay=00:03:26, mailer=relay, pri=1284849, relay=MyProvider.com [XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred I'm using Version 8.14.7 All was fine when I was using Version 8.14.5. Could be a number of things -- maybe even TLS? I am currently on 8.14.8 which is the latest. I have a pretty complex setup including milters galore with zero problems. Have you considered updating to the latest release? That might help. You can also try sending an email via debug in sendmail to MyProvider.com and see if there is something going on or perhaps provide us with a few more details.. -- | _o_ |_)o_ _ _ |_|_|(_||_|_ | \|/_/_(_) - Lucius.Tel -- ++ What the hell is it good for? ++ ++ -- Robert Lloyd (engineer of the Advanced Computing Systems ++ ++ Division of IBM), to colleagues who insisted that the ++ ++ microprocessor was the wave of the future, c. 1968 ++ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libinit idea
* Don Lewis truck...@freebsd.org [2014-02-24 00:56]: On 23 Feb, Lucius Rizzo wrote: * Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com [2014-02-23 09:33]: Imho, the replacement to init and rc-scripts I sometimes think about would be to import SMF from opensolaris/illumos. There one can at least get the commands run and config used without looking at the source code. I like SMF from Solaris 11 onwards and even SmartOS. However, I have found to like systemd and use via systemctl on Arch far nicer than any other rc scripts to date. Anyone care to share their thoughts on the pros and cons of something like systemd the way Arch does? I've got a Fedora server here that has systemd and I've come to dislike it. It seems to be one of those Do not open. No user serviceable parts inside. sorts of things. I had an entirely different experience - albeit on Arch. I had to use systemd via systemctl for pretty much everything to build on the machine. I use btrfs + linux-ck on Arch with systemd. In order to get stuff to work, I had a pretty detailed learning experience with systemd when I helped on the sendmail AUR port for Arch including writing/enabling scripts to work with journald and systemd. Naturally, I'm somewhat surprised to see the the author's attitude towards licensing and non-Linux support. Its rare to come across devs who are zealous to such a degree. However, there seems to be an agreement at least in part to modernize or optimize the boot-up/rc env in FreeBSD. I don't know for most of you but for me, while this is interesting...I almost never really reboot that often for me to actually see a real advantage of a 3 sec boot-up difference by throwing away what we have and migrating to something else. Which is why we should also consider more than just boot-up times -- for me having a newer more intelligent way to manage rc environment might bear more interest than a few second boot difference that I only see once in a blue moon. Though, now I am also at a point where I know commands in - Debian/CentOS/Arch, BSD (FreeBSD/NetBSD) and Solaris 10/11/SmartOS (all with different ways of doing thing). What's annoying is that each of these OS/flavors have nuances in use of their rc scripts and while ^now^ it doesn't bother me at all, I imagine it may for a newb. In most cases, everything works. But when it doesn't, its annoying to remember svcadmin vs systemctl vs /etc/init.d vs service vs /etc/rc.d/ along with all the other commands just to check the logs... -- | _o_ |_)o_ _ _ |_|_|(_||_|_ | \|/_/_(_) - Lucius.Tel -- ++ New members are urgently needed in the Society for Prevention of ++ ++ Cruelty to Yourself. Apply within. ++ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent
* Bryan Drewery bdrew...@freebsd.org [2014-02-24 09:40]: Remembering the time I spent trying to configure sendmail to not accept inbound mail, and trying to get it to behave how I want, I fully support this. Of all the years I've messed with sendmail, I still have little understanding of how to configure it or if I've done it right. Hush! No sendmail hating :P. I remember it being a right of passage to graduate to a ^real^ UNIX admin when you had lost half of your hair while working on sendmail.cf. In a era now long gone, I remember carrying the sendmail bible (thick with detailed instructions on cf vars) as protection vs. say a baseball bat. The Sendmail manual was thick, heavy and while I never did use it as a weapon; I had imagined many times throwing it at a server and see if that maybe fixed the problem with sendmail.cf. I've worked with MTA's a lot. I have hated and loved Sendmail. ATM, I am back in my I 3 Sendmail mode and have it running quite well -- with a lot of cool milters on some of my servers. But sendmail is not for the faint of heart, or ones who are at risk of hair loss. In fact, I would highly discourage sendmail use in the latter case. My exaggerated view of sendmail as a user: [...] Poof..that's easy :P # Uncomment if you want STARTTLS support (only used in combination with # SECURETRANSFER) #STARTTLS Yes please. Simple. I'm not sure where to even start with sendmail to enable those options. See! That wasn't hard at all!! I don't get why people get so worried. What you posted was mostly mc stuff anyways. I would be far more impressed if you would have debugged that in the cf or via sendmail flags. :))) I often use ssmtp on servers that run Wordpress etc and collect most mail to a mailhub which routes it internally and externally. I 3 Sendmail. -- | _o_ |_)o_ _ _ |_|_|(_||_|_ | \|/_/_(_) - Lucius.Tel -- ++ The greatest griefs are those we cause ourselves. ++ ++ -- Sophocles ++ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libinit idea
* Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com [2014-02-23 09:33]: Imho, the replacement to init and rc-scripts I sometimes think about would be to import SMF from opensolaris/illumos. There one can at least get the commands run and config used without looking at the source code. I like SMF from Solaris 11 onwards and even SmartOS. However, I have found to like systemd and use via systemctl on Arch far nicer than any other rc scripts to date. Anyone care to share their thoughts on the pros and cons of something like systemd the way Arch does? -- | _o_ |_)o_ _ _ |_|_|(_||_|_ | \|/_/_(_) - Lucius.Tel -- ++ Q: How many Bell Labs Vice Presidents does it take to change a light bulb? ++ ++ A: That's proprietary information. Answer available from ATT on payment ++ ++ of license fee (binary only). ++ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org