backtrace on current..

2019-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan

FYI - newly installed:

ugen1.2:  at usbus1
uhub2 on uhub0
uhub2:  
on usbus1

ugen0.2:  at usbus0
uhub3 on uhub1
uhub3:  
on usbus0

uhub2: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ugen1.3:  at usbus1
ukbd0 on uhub2
ukbd0:  
on usbus1

kbd2 at ukbd0
ugen1.4:  at usbus1
umass0 on uhub2
umass0:  on usbus1
umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100
umass0:4:0: Attached to scbus4
ugen1.5:  at usbus1
umass1 on uhub2
umass1:  on 
usbus1

umass1:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100
umass1:5:1: Attached to scbus5
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): REPORT LUNS. CDB: a0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
10 00 00

(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0 (Invalid 
command operation code)

(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 22, Unretryable error
da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus5 target 0 lun 0
da1:  Removable Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI 
device

da1: Serial Number 60A44C3FACC9FE118997019C
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
da1: 29510MB (60437492 512 byte sectors)
da1: quirks=0x2
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0p2 []...
WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device
da0: Serial Number 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
da0: 5723166MB (11721043968 512 byte sectors)
da0: quirks=0x2
lock order reversal:
 1st 0xf80004f77608 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:713
 2nd 0xfe80edc0 bufwait (bufwait) @ 
/usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:283

 3rd 0xf80006aff248 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2598
stack backtrace:
#0 0x80c48773 at witness_debugger+0x73
#1 0x80c484bd at witness_checkorder+0xa7d
#2 0x80bb45dd at lockmgr_xlock_hard+0x6d
#3 0x80bb505e at __lockmgr_args+0x5fe
#4 0x80ef4365 at ffs_lock+0xa5
#5 0x81236d93 at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x63
#6 0x80cc3715 at _vn_lock+0x65
#7 0x80cb1ee6 at vget+0x66
#8 0x80ca3fcc at vfs_hash_get+0xcc
#9 0x80eefc4f at ffs_vgetf+0x3f
#10 0x80ee5a32 at softdep_sync_buf+0xb62
#11 0x80ef5124 at ffs_syncvnode+0x234
#12 0x80ecad66 at ffs_truncate+0x716
#13 0x80efc909 at ufs_direnter+0x609
#14 0x80f055dd at ufs_makeinode+0x5fd
#15 0x80f01544 at ufs_create+0x34
#16 0x81234b30 at VOP_CREATE_APV+0x60
#17 0x80cc301f at vn_open_cred+0x2cf
random: unblocking device.
lo0: link state changed to UP
em0: link state changed to UP
ums0 on uhub2
ums0:  on 
usbus1

ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=1
Security policy loaded: MAC/ntpd (mac_ntpd)
root@colossus:~ # uname -a
FreeBSD colossus.isux.com 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r346979 
GENERIC  amd64

root@colossus:~ #

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Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12

2018-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan

blubee blubeeme wrote:

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:04 AM Mark Linimon  wrote:


On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 07:07:24AM +0800, blubee blubeeme wrote:

Are these guys insane and please avoid the nonsense about you're doing

this

in your spare time.

Let us know how whatever OS you wind up using instead works for you.
I suggest you look for one that will put up with your constant harangues.

There are very few people on the mailing lists as nasty and rude as
yourself.  It is tiresome, demotivating, and childish.  Please go
elsewhere.

mcl


Your opinion has been noted but this issue isn't about me.

It's about the Graphics devs coding themselves into a corner and looking
for an easy button so they can continue to feel good about their toy.

There's a reason the changes they tried to force down the FreeBSD source
tree was reverted; It does not meet any standards of quality.

I have no inside knowledge other than my ability to think clearly and it's
obvious that The FreeBSD team wanted to hint at them that their code
doesn't pass the sniff test.

Instead of being whiny brats improve your code and have it work without
breaking compatibility with what has been working for quite a long time.

Here's the play by play;
You guys push this mess contaminating the FreeBSD source tree, some long
standing user tries to update their machines and it blows up;
1) Most will just leave
2) Some will complain
2a) You guys will say; Read UPDATING. bleh bleh blen
They'll get aggravated, thereby aggravating people who came to this
platform for Stability.

Users who actually use FreeBSD to get things done do not time to trawl
these mailing lists, they have real world problems to solve with real world
constraints.

There are OS with kqueue and all those things it's called Linux; You can go
there and play w/ that stuff to your hearts content.

If you want your code to get merged, make sure it follows the guidelines
and not break the systems for people who are already using the platform.

Now, I understand hearing harsh criticism about your work might hurt your
feelings and all but here's the antidote;
work harder,
improve your code,
try again when your code quality improves.

You guys cannot expect people to accept these kludges in their systems that
they run everyday.

It's an open source project, you can't get mad because your code isn't
accepted, it's your jobs and engineers to do better not expect users to
jump through hoops to accommodate your subpar attempts at coding.

This isn't about me, it's about the quality of code that you guys are
trying to submit.

Not much to disagree with what you say here.. because that's why I no 
longer work on using FreeBSD instead having created my own fork which is 
something I can call stable, that can be patched for security issues and 
something that is usable across my environment.


The one thing who you should be aware of and what I do disagree with you 
over is who you are speaking to ML is a long standing 'old hat' of 
FreeBSD and someone I respect and I know would not be putting 'kludges' 
and substandard code into the trees...  Direct your anger elsewhere, 
whilst still making valid points.


Regards,

Michelle

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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - First Quarter 2016 (fwd)

2016-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan

Warren Block wrote:

Introduction

   The first quarter of 2016 showed that FreeBSD retains a strong 
sense of

   ipseity. Improvements were pervasive, lending credence to the concept
   of meliorism.

   Panegyrics are relatively scarce, but not for lack of need. Perhaps
   this missive might serve that function in some infinitesimal way.

   There was propagation, reformation, randomization, accumulation,
   emulation, transmogrification, debuggenation, and metaphrasal during
   this quarter.

   In the financioartistic arena, pork snout futures narrowly edged out
   pointilism, while parietal art remained fixed.

   In all, a discomfiture of abundance. View the rubrics below, and 
marvel

   at their profusion and magnitude! Marvel!


You're trolling right?

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Re: UEFI Boot fails if legacy mode is disabled completely in settings on ASUS Z87 board

2014-11-20 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Dominik Zajac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> on an ASUS Z87 Pro board, the UEFI boot media only work if the CSM mode
> in the Settings of the UEFI are set to "both". This means it is using
> UEFI boot and CSM mode for legacy booting.
>
> If I disable the legacy CSM and configure "UEFI only", the UEFI loader
> still loads but when it comes to load the kernel it just stops and the
> system is frozen at that point. Same with 10.1 and 11-current USB
> install media.
>
> The system now has FreeBSD 10.1 on one disc installed with UEFI mode and
> boots with it as long as the CSM compatibility mode is enabled.
>
> Has someone a similar problem or behaviour?
>   

Same Mobo, same problem here.
> This leads me to the next question. How can I debug or get more
> information what fails at this stage of the boot process? I would like
> to provide more detailed information and help to debug to hunt this bug
> down.
>   
Sorry - I can't help here, I don't have time to debug as too busy fixing
broken systems from Sept 1 changes.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-21 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan wrote:
> Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The ports tree has been modified to only support pkg(8) as package management
>> system for all supported version of FreeBSD.
>>
>> if you were still using pkg_install (pkg_* tools) you will have to upgrade 
>> your
>> system.
>>
>> The simplest way is
>> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
>> make install
>> then run 
>> pkg2ng
>>
>> 

So despite being told 'use the quarterly, patches can be applied to it
if requested' and updating ports I maintain asking specifically for the
patches to be merged...

Still all broken (though patches applied to HEAD)...  Nice one...

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-03 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> +--On 3 septembre 2014 16:36:29 +0200 Michelle Sullivan
>  wrote:
> | Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> |> I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of
> |> Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more.
> |> 
> |>   
> | Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore...
>
> Not at all, but you don't update them any more.
>
>   
Actually you do, but it does nothing... just like freebsd-update on any
EOL release...

Microsoft didn't release a patch that would change the base system so
you can no longer install any software... They just stopped providing
updates, then later stopped providing security updates.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-03 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of
> Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more.
>
>   
Ahh so all those Windows XP servers are dead and don't work anymore...

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Brandon Allbery wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan 
> wrote:
>
>   
>> This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my
>> build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically
>> converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued...
>> however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same
>> directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure...
>>
>> 
>
> So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably
> should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is
> supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place.
> *Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your
> jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via
> poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches.
>
>   
The roll until they get a stable base (using Jenkins as the controller)
- they've been rolling since a patch to DBIx-SearchBuilder (that I
created and submitted), which out came the DBD::Pg update to 3.3.0 and
the subsequent blacklisting of it for RT 4.x and then the tcl breakage
around mid August until 2 days ago...  So yeah not that stupid.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:47, Michelle Sullivan  wrote:
>>
>> Marcus von Appen wrote:
>> 
>>> Alban Hertroys :
>>>
>>>   
>>>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
>>>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
>>>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
>>>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.
>>>> 
>>> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those
>>> issues
>>> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is
>>> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
>>> instead. It can't work that way.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents in this discussion :-).
>>>   
>> Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for
>> breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2
>> weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with
>> an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was
>> not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.
>> 
>
> Hi Michelle,
> One subtle point that I wanted to ask for clarification is you thought 
> the EOL announcement for pkg_install was going to be "pkg_install is no 
> longer going to be supported, but you can still use it", instead of 
> "pkg_install support is going to be removed from the tree" -- is that correct?
>   
100% correct! (thank you for being one of the few to see the subtle but
*very* important difference)

> You'd probably hate to do this, but forking the sources and changing from 
> portsnap to a git or svn backed ports tree that downloads a tarball snapshot 
> might be the best resolution to this issue now...
>   

This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my
build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically
converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued...
however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same
directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure...

Time to rebuild everything from scratch I think - second time in a
year.. I'm guessing my boss is going to tell me, use RPM, no wasting
more time on it... only time will tell... you'll know the result if you
see future posts and patches from me.

Michelle

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Marcus von Appen wrote:
> Alban Hertroys :
>
>>
>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.
>>
>
> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those
> issues
> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is
> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
> instead. It can't work that way.
>
> My 2 cents in this discussion :-).

Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for
breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2
weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with
an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was
not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Andrew Berg wrote:
> On 2014.09.01 22:09, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
>   
>> That's my point - there was a patch waiting to submit that knowingly
>> broke pkg_install at midnight on the day after the EOL... the EOL
>> shouldn't be an EOL - because it was really a 'portsnap after this date
>> before you upgrade and you're screwed it won't work any more at all...'
>> 
> As Peter outlined, this EOL was announced long ago, and it was mentioned at
> least once that it was to allow breaking changes. There really would be no
> reason to drop support for it in the ports tree if there were no plans to make
> changes.
>   

The point is the EOL was not an EOL, it was a deadline, either switch or
you're screwed, and it was communicated as an EOL not as a "here's a
deadline, switch or you're screwed"

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Andrew Berg wrote:
> On 2014.09.01 21:27, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
>   
>> Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you.  Not for
>> many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't
>> been writing my own ports oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? broke
>> shit... (badly) ...
>> 
> There were instructions for upgrading 1.3.6 to 1.3.7 alongside a notice that
> things would not be good if the instructions were not followed and an
> explanation of the issue. I think these kinds of notices need to reach more
> people, but of course, that is easier said than done.
> BTW, from what I have observed, 1.3.x issues have affected Poudriere users the
> most, binary package users a bit less (but still significantly), and pure 
> ports
> users very little.
>   

I am a poudriere user... across 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 10.0 on both
i386 and amd64 :/
>   
>>> Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you would be
>>> doing a new install with 9.2.
>>>   
>>>   
>> Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer...  They still
>> install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I checked,
>> on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*)
>> 
> Fair enough.
>
>   
>> (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not
>> work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this
>> date and things *might* not work as expected'
>> 
> No, it means "we're not supporting this any more, so we don't care if there 
> are
> new vulnerabilities or things stop working". I'm not going to dictate to other
> people what their upgrade schedule should be, but anyone running unsupported
> versions of software should not have any expectation that the ecosystem around
> it will be accommodating.
>   

That's my point - there was a patch waiting to submit that knowingly
broke pkg_install at midnight on the day after the EOL... the EOL
shouldn't be an EOL - because it was really a 'portsnap after this date
before you upgrade and you're screwed it won't work any more at all...'
> The ports tree already requires a lot work to make sure everything works on
> supported versions of FreeBSD, and I see no reason whatsoever for anyone to 
> put
> effort into making it work on EOL versions.
>   

Some of us have production systems that span 6.0->10.0 (and most version
in between) and are fighting fires with minimal help just trying to keep
ahead

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Julian Elischer wrote:
>
> You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and
> operations
> department 

You work for the same company as me?

> some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 machines
> for no real reason (from their perspective).
>

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
>> And for the portsnap users?
>>
>>
>> 
> In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users.
>   
Sure about that?
> Portsnap is a tool that used to obtain a copy of the ports tree.
>   
try this:

portsnap fetch update && cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg && make install

If you *haven't* install pkg first...
> Portsnap is only one way, another way to get a copy of the ports tree is by
> using subversion and checking it out by using the svn command.
>   
Not much good if you haven't installed svn already...
> pkg(8) is a package management tool, and to make use of most packages
> having a copy of the ports tree is not required.
>
>   
Correct, take a 9.2 install disk, install it, portsnap and then install
pkg on it...  Oh wait, you can't.. pkg_install is broken, and 9.2
install disks don't have pkg in the BaseOS


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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The ports tree has been modified to only support pkg(8) as package management
> system for all supported version of FreeBSD.
>
> if you were still using pkg_install (pkg_* tools) you will have to upgrade 
> your
> system.
>
> The simplest way is
> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
> make install
> then run 
> pkg2ng
>
> You will have lots of warning, don't be scared, they are expected, pkg_*
> databases used to get easily mangled. pkg2ng is most of the time able to deal
> with it.
>
> If however you encounter a problem then please report to p...@freebsd.org
>
> A tag has been applied to the ports tree if you need to get the latest ports
> tree before the EOL of pkg_install:
> https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/tags/PKG_INSTALL_EOL
>
> A branch has been created if some committers want to provides updates on the
> for pkg_install users:
> https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/branches/pkg_install
>
> Please note that this branch is not officially maintained and that we strongly
> recommend that you do migrate to pkg(8)
>
> Best regards,
> Bapt on behalf of portmgr
>   
And for the portsnap users?



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