Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Nicole

On 02-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Doug Barton said :
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:
> 
>>  It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people
>> act like..  What the big deal. I don't need it why should you?
> 
> You're certainly free to draw that conclusion, however you'd be
> mistaken. There are times when adding new features means that things
> change. That's life in a volunteer project. If this isn't to your
> liking, feel free to move on, or get to work restoring functionality
> that you think is important. Either way, you need to dial down the
> rhetoric quite a bit if you expect people to help you.

 Sorry I didn't mean to be so "testy" I guess would discribe it. It's an old
issue for me. Every so often I try asking for help with it, and its usually the
response I get :(  So you are correct. I am infolving old feelings etc when I
shoudl not be. Sorry.

>>  I still have not solved the going to comsonsole mode if there is no
>> keyboard detected crap, new "feature".  Yea great for those who could
>> benifit from it.. But I have YET to have one person be able to show me
>> how to STOP it from doing that.
> 
> Remove the 0x01 flag from the atkbd0 line in your kernel config.

 I will give that a shot. Thats certainly different than abyone else has
suggested.  In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit
it there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in in my
config file?

 Thanks for the assist !


 Nicole




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Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

 *SIGH*
 No what I want is NO serial console. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON turn off/not resp
ond to the keyboard port



 Nicole



On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Scott Long said :
> Aaron Wohl wrote:
>> My notes on getting a serial console at 115200
>> 
>> -must be com1
>> -com1 must be at port 0x3F8 irq 4
>> -in bios set the port and irq as above
>> -in bios set serial redirection to com1
>> -in bios set baud rate 115200
>> -in bios set RTS/CTS flow control
>> -edit (or create) /etc/make.conf to add these lines:
>> BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT=   0x3F8
>> BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED=  115200
>> -cd /sys/boot
>> -make clean
>> -make
>> -make install
>> -fdisk -B
>> No im not kidding.  Part of the boot knowing baud rate loader lives in
>> the main disk boot block.
>> -cd /boot
>> -edit loader.conf
>> -add a line:
>> console=comconsole
>> -edit /boot.config make it read (with a return after it):
>> -Dh
>> (the above is minus D h return, thats 4 characters)
>> -cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
>> -edit PASODOBLE (or whatever your kernconf is called)
>> -add:
>> options   CONSPEED=115200 # Console Redirection
>> -cd /usr/src
>> -make buildkernel KERNCONF=PASODOBLE
>> -make installkernel KERNCONF=PASODOBLE
>> -reboot
>> -pray
>> 
> 
> 
> At one time I was working on patches to the loader to make the console
> speed configurable.  At the time, at least, I didn't see any evidence
> that the settings were stored in the boot0 block, but maybe I was wrong.
> In any case, finishing this up is on my TODO list.
> 
> Scott
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Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Scott Long said :
> Scott M. Likens wrote:
>> I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console,
>> 
>> I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it
>> possible to see the 'kernel' "boot" messages sent on both the serial and
>> the console?
>> 
>> It was a question that was asked to me by a client, and after
>> researching it more, it seems that it's not possible.
>> 
>> Am i wrong?  or did I miss an option that's not documented?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Scott M. Likens
>> 
>> 
> 
> I'm a little confused by your request, but maybe adding the following
> line to /boot/loader.conf will get what you want?
> 
> console="comconsole"
> 
> There is also a way to get the console directed to both the video and
> serial at the same time, but I've forgotten the magic and can't find it
> at the moment.

 Heh magic is the right word ;)

 According to what I have found it is supposed to be:

 console="vidconsole"   To make it still choose internal console even if it does
not find a keyboard present at boot time. So you can walk up later and connect
a keyboard and have it work.


 Everytime I asked on the lists I got.. Oh go look here for the answer. Which I
had.. to which I got, oh well the answers in there..  No one ever was able to
say DO THIS.  Let alone anyone saying do this and have it work :(

 If you find the Magic please do let me know :)



 Nicole


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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

 BTW - I do thank you Marc for your advice. I know you were trying to assist. 

 It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people act like.. 
What the big deal. I don't need it why should you?

 I still have not solved the going to comsonsole mode if there is no keyboard
detected crap, new "feature".  Yea great for those who could benifit from it..
But I have YET to have one person be able to show me how to STOP it from doing
that. Why??? gosh why?? Becouse I don't want serial console and I don't have a
keyboard on every server. So if I walk into the datacenter and try to access a
server that has been rebooted.. I'm screwed! I have to ssh from some other
server that has not been rebooted and if I NEED console.. then I have to reb
oot the server. That detrimeature still has me pissed and the people I do work
for scratching their head wanting to know why I install such a "broken" OS.
 They don't know and can't directly see the good things... managers and clients
can only see it when you have to strugle to do something that should not be so
obtuse.

 

  Nicole


On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Marc G. Fournier said :
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:
> 
>>
>>  So are you saying it Will work in single user mode perhaps? (drives in use)
>>
>>  or are you saying gee we have this nice new version that if you need to
>> modify any disk slice you did after an install your screwed into going
>> back to caveman tools (which I admit I have NO IDEA how to use and I bet
>> many others don't as well.)
> 
> Ummm ... if you are talking about something that I just went through, why
> can't you just boot up off the floppies and do the reconfig from there?



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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Marc G. Fournier said :
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:
> 
>>
>>  So are you saying it Will work in single user mode perhaps? (drives in use)
>>
>>  or are you saying gee we have this nice new version that if you need to
>> modify any disk slice you did after an install your screwed into going
>> back to caveman tools (which I admit I have NO IDEA how to use and I bet
>> many others don't as well.)
> 
> Ummm ... if you are talking about something that I just went through, why
> can't you just boot up off the floppies and do the reconfig from there?


 Well Server not even in same city as I am would be a start.

  I thought detrimeatures were more a MS thing. "You didn't really NEED that
feature did you.. there is a way around it, but you need our $$ training course
then."

 You want to compete with Linux and Solaris who has all the nice friendly
features and now its ok to eliminate them and make someones job require on-site
visits and downbooting to floppies?  Hellooo??

 


  Nicole




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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

 So are you saying it Will work in single user mode perhaps? (drives in use)
 
 or are you saying gee we have this nice new version that if you need to modify
any disk slice you did after an install your screwed into going back to caveman
tools (which I admit I have NO IDEA how to use and I bet many others don't as
well.) 

 I have been using FreeBSD since 1997 and have never HAD to use anything else.


 Way to win over those Linux users. 
 

  Nicole




On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Poul-Henning Kamp said :
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nicole writes:
>>
>> Is anyone going to be fixing the sysinstall problem of not being able to
>>re-slice a drive? For those who are not technical whizes this IS a big
>>problem.
>>We do still care about them right?
> 
> If you are talking about using sysinstall to modify drives in use,
> then the answer is probably no.
> 
> For that job you want to use the correct tools:  fdisk(8) and
> bsdlabel(8) (tacitly assuming i386 here).
> 
> If you are talking about a problem during initial install of FreeBSD
> you need to provide more details about it.
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

 Is anyone going to be fixing the sysinstall problem of not being able to
re-slice a drive? For those who are not technical whizes this IS a big problem.
We do still care about them right?


  Nicole






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