[request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Cristiano Deana
Hi,

is it possible to include in base system of the upcoming 10.0 the new
version of ntp (4.2.7 instead of 4.2.4)?

There is a bug in older versions (< 4.2.7) who allows attacker use an ntp
server to DDoS. This has been corrected in new version:
https://cert.litnet.lt/en/docs/ntp-distributed-reflection-dos-attacks

This attack seems to be increasing in the last few weeks.

net/ntp-devel is Ok.

Thank you, sorry for my basic english.

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Re: [request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Cristiano Deana
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to include in base system of the upcoming 10.0 the new
> version of ntp (4.2.7 instead of 4.2.4)?
>
> There is a bug in older versions (< 4.2.7) who allows attacker use an ntp
> server to DDoS. This has been corrected in new version:
> https://cert.litnet.lt/en/docs/ntp-distributed-reflection-dos-attacks
>
> This attack seems to be increasing in the last few weeks.
>
> net/ntp-devel is Ok.
>
> Thank you, sorry for my basic english.
>

ntp 4.2.4p8 isn't vulnerable.

http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-2153/NTP.html

The reflection attack is the first in the list, 4.2.4p7 and below are affected.

Cheers

Tom
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Re: [request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Cristiano Deana
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Tom Evans  wrote:


> > There is a bug in older versions (< 4.2.7) who allows attacker use an ntp
> > server to DDoS. This has been corrected in new version:
> > https://cert.litnet.lt/en/docs/ntp-distributed-reflection-dos-attacks
> >
> > This attack seems to be increasing in the last few weeks.
> >
> > net/ntp-devel is Ok.
>
>
> ntp 4.2.4p8 isn't vulnerable.
>
> http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-2153/NTP.html
>
> The reflection attack is the first in the list, 4.2.4p7 and below are
> affected.



Thank you, Tom for your quick reply.

That is not the same bug. I had two ntpd with 4.2.4p8 used the last days to
DDoS. I found the link below, used net/ntp-devel and the abuse was gone.

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Re: [request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Cristiano Deana
 wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Tom Evans  wrote:
>
>>
>> > There is a bug in older versions (< 4.2.7) who allows attacker use an
>> > ntp
>> > server to DDoS. This has been corrected in new version:
>> > https://cert.litnet.lt/en/docs/ntp-distributed-reflection-dos-attacks
>> >
>> > This attack seems to be increasing in the last few weeks.
>> >
>> > net/ntp-devel is Ok.
>>
>>
>> ntp 4.2.4p8 isn't vulnerable.
>>
>> http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-2153/NTP.html
>>
>> The reflection attack is the first in the list, 4.2.4p7 and below are
>> affected.
>
>
>
> Thank you, Tom for your quick reply.
>
> That is not the same bug. I had two ntpd with 4.2.4p8 used the last days to
> DDoS. I found the link below, used net/ntp-devel and the abuse was gone.
>

Does it have a CVE? The article is low on content :(

Cheers

Tom
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Re: [request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Olivier Cochard-Labbé
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Cristiano Deana
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to include in base system of the upcoming 10.0 the new
> version of ntp (4.2.7 instead of 4.2.4)?
>
> There is a bug in older versions (< 4.2.7) who allows attacker use an ntp
> server to DDoS. This has been corrected in new version:
> https://cert.litnet.lt/en/docs/ntp-distributed-reflection-dos-attacks

Thanks for this URL, I've meet this problem on my FreeBSD 9.2 few
weeks ago (public NTP registered in the pool.ntp.org).

There is a thread on the ntp.org ML about this too:
http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/pool/2013-November/thread.html

Regards,

Olivier
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Re: [request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Cristiano Deana
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tom Evans  wrote:


> Does it have a CVE? The article is low on content
>
>
I don't think so. I think there were lot of ideas about the DDoS, that's
the only article suggesting a right solution (in my experience).
I think they are still investigating.

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Re: [request] ntp upgrade

2013-11-27 Thread Cristiano Deana
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Olivier Cochard-Labbé
wrote:

Hi

Thanks for this URL, I've meet this problem on my FreeBSD 9.2 few
> weeks ago (public NTP registered in the pool.ntp.org).
>

Same for me.


>
> There is a thread on the ntp.org ML about this too:
> http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/pool/2013-November/thread.html
>
>
i tried those suggestion too (with "discard" parameter) but it didn't work.
When I switched to ntp-devel everything went fine.

Just:
# service ntpd stop
# cd /usr/ports/net/ntp-devel && make -DBATCH install
# echo 'ntpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/ntpd"' >> /etc/rc.conf
# service ntpd start

it will use same /etc/ntp.conf conf file.



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