Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-23 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian Beattie 
writes:
: > Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)
: > 
: > - Jordan
: >
: 
: Then that would make the CD LordWarfen.iso?

I had the chance to register john.net way back when.  I was going to
name the machines warfen.john.net, bigbootee.john.net,
smallberries.john.net, etc.  I kinda wish I had because now it is too
late :-(

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Barton writes:
:   But win95 didn't really fix it, it just covered it up. Filenames in
: Win9x are still 8.3, but the "OS" provides a translation layer that maps
: those 8.3 filenames to long ones. Also, are we sure that fdimage,
: running under DOS can handle longer names? 

But DOS will truncate it.  By that point the name has served its
purpose and it doesn't matter if it is truncated :-).

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Barton

Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jack 
>writes:
> : Today Warner Losh wrote:
> :
> : > boot.flp288
> :
> : The M$ weenies would probably choke on that since they do
> : filenames other than 8.3 with smoke and mirrors.
> 
> 8.3 is so archaic these days we shouldn't be bothered with them.  It
> hasn't been a real restriction since the 3.1 days.  Win95, released 5
> years ago, fixed this.

But win95 didn't really fix it, it just covered it up. Filenames in
Win9x are still 8.3, but the "OS" provides a translation layer that maps
those 8.3 filenames to long ones. Also, are we sure that fdimage,
running under DOS can handle longer names? 

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)

Bigboote.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral

"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
> 
> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

AFAIK, the idea is having the name keeping people away from that file.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread jack

Today Warner Losh wrote:

> boot.flp288

The M$ weenies would probably choke on that since they do
filenames other than 8.3 with smoke and mirrors.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jack 
writes:
: Today Warner Losh wrote:
: 
: > boot.flp288
: 
: The M$ weenies would probably choke on that since they do
: filenames other than 8.3 with smoke and mirrors.

8.3 is so archaic these days we shouldn't be bothered with them.  It
hasn't been a real restriction since the 3.1 days.  Win95, released 5
years ago, fixed this.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Brian Beattie

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > kern-144.flp
> > root-144.flp
> > boot-288.flp
> 
> Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)
> 
> - Jordan
>

Then that would make the CD LordWarfen.iso?
 
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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh

boot.flp288

Warner


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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

> kern-144.flp
> root-144.flp
> boot-288.flp

Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)

- Jordan


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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Brian Beattie

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Rasmus Skaarup wrote:

> 
> Jordan K. Hubbard said:
> > Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)
> 
> kern.flp-> start.flp  
> mfsroot.flp -> install.flp
> 
> boot.flp-> bigstart.flp 
>bigdisk.flp ?

Or Maybe:
kern.144
mfsroot.144
boot.288

or

kern-144.flp
root-144.flp
boot-288.flp


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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Alex Zepeda was heard blurting out:

> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)
> 
> reallybigbootthing.flp?
> 

How about:

isoboot.flp

Since it's use is for making bootable cdroms  ;-)

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread John Estess


-Original Message-
From: Rasmus Skaarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jordan K. Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2


>
>Jordan K. Hubbard said:
>> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better?
:)
>
>kern.flp-> start.flp>>> boot.flp
>mfsroot.flp -> install.flp   >>> initsys.flp
>
>boot.flp-> bigstart.flp  >>> bootinit.flp
>   bigdisk.flp ?
>

>> > Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
>> > `make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.


And I
thought this was the objectionable phrase




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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Rasmus Skaarup


Jordan K. Hubbard said:
> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

kern.flp-> start.flp  
mfsroot.flp -> install.flp

boot.flp-> bigstart.flp 
   bigdisk.flp ?

I thought we could rename kern.flp and mfsroot.flp aswell, since they
their names don't make much sense to anyone other than the one compiling
the darn disks :-)


Best regards
Rasmus Skaarup


> 
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:32:35PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> > > I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
> > > different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the
> > 
> > Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
> > `make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.
> > (harder to say "NO" to working code)
> > 
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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread Alex Zepeda

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

reallybigbootthing.flp?

- alex



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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:32:35PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> > I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
> > different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the
> 
> Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
> `make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.
> (harder to say "NO" to working code)
> 
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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread David O'Brien

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:32:35PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
> different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the

Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
`make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.
(harder to say "NO" to working code)

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread Doug White

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Thierry.herbelot wrote:

> I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
> had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
> normal floppy), instead of kern.flp (and dd does not give error messages
> ..)

I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the
single-floppy installer of yore. :)  I still reach for 'boot.flp' and have
to kick myself to grab kern/mfsroot instead.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-20 Thread Joe Abley

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 07:52:18AM +0100, Thierry.herbelot wrote:
> Joe Abley wrote:
> > 
> > Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
> > 
> I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
> had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
> normal floppy), instead of kern.flp (and dd does not give error messages
> ..)

Oh, how hideously embarassing. Thank you, Thierry, and please excuse
me as I shoot myself in the head.



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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-20 Thread Thierry.herbelot

Joe Abley wrote:
> 
> Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
> 
>   /boot.config: -P
>   Keyboard: yes
> 
>   BTX loader 1.00  BTX version is 1.01
>   Console: internal video/keyboard
>   BIOS drive A: is disk0
>   BIOS drive C: is disk1
>   BIOS 639kB/56256kB available memory
> 
>   FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7
>   ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Mar 15 01:23:43 GMT 2000)
>   |
>   Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
>   Booting [kernel]...
>   /kernel text=0x1d56fe data=0x2f4ca0+0x1a718 zf_read: fill error

Hello,

I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
normal floppy), instead of kern.flp (and dd does not give error messages
..)

TfH

> 
>   elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed
>   can't load 'kernel'
>   no bootable kernel
>   \
> 
>   Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
>   ok
> 
> What does this mean? If this is a -questions question, then please feel
> free to flame me privately (just thought it sounded -currentish). If
> there are any useful diags I can type, let me know.
> 
> Hardware is 350MHz K6/2, generic-looking Asus motherboard with
> integrated video and audio, no-name PCI 10baseT ethernet adapter,
> floppy, single 20G IDE disk, 64M RAM. No other peripherals.
> 
> Have tried different floppies. Recent OpenBSD snapshot floppy works
> just fine, by way of crude hardware sanity check.
> 
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4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-20 Thread Joe Abley

Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.

  /boot.config: -P
  Keyboard: yes

  BTX loader 1.00  BTX version is 1.01
  Console: internal video/keyboard
  BIOS drive A: is disk0
  BIOS drive C: is disk1
  BIOS 639kB/56256kB available memory

  FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Mar 15 01:23:43 GMT 2000)
  |
  Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
  Booting [kernel]...
  /kernel text=0x1d56fe data=0x2f4ca0+0x1a718 zf_read: fill error

  elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed
  can't load 'kernel'
  no bootable kernel
  \

  Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
  ok

What does this mean? If this is a -questions question, then please feel
free to flame me privately (just thought it sounded -currentish). If
there are any useful diags I can type, let me know.

Hardware is 350MHz K6/2, generic-looking Asus motherboard with
integrated video and audio, no-name PCI 10baseT ethernet adapter,
floppy, single 20G IDE disk, 64M RAM. No other peripherals.

Have tried different floppies. Recent OpenBSD snapshot floppy works
just fine, by way of crude hardware sanity check.



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