Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Beware that they (DO) do not at all grok ipv6. They hand out /124s, or something equally silly. My DO instance has /64 and I have no problems with using ipv6 to login. --Nikolay ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at wrote: I don't know what's unusual with the DO virtualisation, but vultr just works like a normal server (though they do restrict to virtio devices where applicable rather than emulated harware) They use Avahi for autodisovery of the IPv4 link layer address to further boostrap the configuration. Unfortuately avahi-autoipd seems to needs lots of dependencies, including gobject-introspection. bsd-cloudinit is written in Python and they use it to get a proper IPv4 addresses. This configuration gets sucked into rc. On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Nikolay Denev wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Beware that they (DO) do not at all grok ipv6. They hand out /124s, or something equally silly. My DO instance has /64 and I have no problems with using ipv6 to login. It's /64 formally here, but I am told only to use 16 (sixteen) addresses :2000 ... :200f Sounds like neighbour discovery scalability issues? //Marcin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at wrote: I don't know what's unusual with the DO virtualisation, but vultr just works like a normal server (though they do restrict to virtio devices where applicable rather than emulated harware) They use Avahi for autodisovery of the IPv4 link layer address to further boostrap the configuration. Unfortuately avahi-autoipd seems to needs lots of dependencies, including gobject-introspection. bsd-cloudinit is written in Python and they use it to get a proper IPv4 addresses. This configuration gets sucked into rc. On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Nikolay Denev wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Beware that they (DO) do not at all grok ipv6. They hand out /124s, or something equally silly. My DO instance has /64 and I have no problems with using ipv6 to login. It's /64 formally here, but I am told only to use 16 (sixteen) addresses :2000 ... :200f Sounds like neighbour discovery scalability issues? //Marcin On the timecounter sysctl: unixbench with TSC-low: INDEX VALUES TESTBASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables116700.0 25145739.3 2154.7 Double-Precision Whetstone 55.0 4021.2 731.1 Execl Throughput43.0 2334.0 542.8 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 3960.0 1309.03.3 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1655.0 353.02.1 File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 5800.0 4771.08.2 Pipe Throughput 12440.0 1179433.3 948.1 Pipe-based Context Switching 4000.0 259704.9 649.3 Process Creation 126.0 8010.6 635.8 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 6.0 538.8 898.0 System Call Overhead 15000.0 987460.5 658.3 = FINAL SCORE 189.7 unixbench with HPET(default): INDEX VALUES TESTBASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables116700.0 24582513.8 2106.5 Double-Precision Whetstone 55.0 3941.6 716.7 Execl Throughput43.0 2275.7 529.2 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 3960.0 1102.02.8 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1655.0 259.01.6 File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 5800.0 4604.07.9 Pipe Throughput 12440.0 1186331.6 953.6 Pipe-based Context Switching 4000.0 255294.8 638.2 Process Creation 126.0 6451.6 512.0 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 6.0 445.8 743.0 System Call Overhead 15000.0 971475.1 647.7 = FINAL SCORE 173.0 --Nikolay ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.01.2015 14:29, Lev Serebryakov wrote: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 - -- // Lev Serebryakov -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUt9yXXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGOTZEMUNBMEI1RjQzMThCNjc0QjMzMEFF QUIwM0M1OEJGREM0NzhGAAoJEOqwPFi/3EePU9YP/22oUffmkkbbd0KUbJgDQqDi PaohQ/LiFs3elpIQboQXuMIQtYqcAEE/3IXskc/ShHfnKNm0V9V1gPkn9wpaAWza cbOPwwE8RStpN52z6wKpAy6FM1aXkuL4idDc6ErHfIP4VDW4sgaJhBb0hnIsSWO1 745MTWJg8bldr5Kqzr/8mFDgCuNWHZi/QTNHSggDni566T0xn7hEbPbQoiALpZT8 3b5I8KGu/4VnvT7vmZmj65HyX9N9MtllfbpmCv9iQAJd+Tf6kTiURiFv/6vJDN0m 1cD5j5EZU+mJOjfU9n3dbP3M2xIhbVOZBrUtD23S2CeZtHPtZgcgt19aBQ2ZjTlx TcpykUDoIfAwmD8bjNe8mc06rn6MM7QYnKTxUN9WdkVpTzu+GcA2g00ET4fY8EnF 4R36/vnula2S8f5ON+MrBmtQ/vdiHc7w1QNxq41McegZzmkF4lcjHVS39MNAiXaf eG6fQHaEibVGBUBsPX5FjUWIWugAG6CFDX435AN2bx0WM7ocgQd+ITEWIVytG68c jqpnGF15crFzZCEYpeHUhrieYrzIHqxarrkWMBefLVxflricB/alPeYc+jNT6wcm K5MUcBVXfWTcUVP0SgXNAnWY8Tmvwfbmb9MkNPudIOFjDBc3pEPICW23uviNizLt OoYcVXcOj+ALB27alZi1 =uggy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 May be IOPS quotation? Can you test with dd and custom kernel with MAXPHYS=1048576 ? Don't know about DO, but networking over virtio is also slower under VirtualBox (FreeBSD guest and host), compared to the emulated em0. Mark ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:28:23PM +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.01.2015 14:29, Lev Serebryakov wrote: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 May be IOPS quotation? Can you test with dd and custom kernel with MAXPHYS=1048576 ? ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.01.2015 18:44, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 May be IOPS quotation? Can you test with dd and custom kernel with MAXPHYS=1048576 ? I haven't Digital Ocean instance(s) right now :) - -- // Lev Serebryakov -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUt+Q7XxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGOTZEMUNBMEI1RjQzMThCNjc0QjMzMEFF QUIwM0M1OEJGREM0NzhGAAoJEOqwPFi/3EePvnMQAJviVsAGTxG0yFOqmBFDVAda N/HQ2Px5PBPwYBPmyY0GFPIRUW6dpRbiAKuchDTOxmOrRwjBj+2NNN03ktR7qzIk vD0xz3q72Jw/5CfnpUqb8/HXwRGX/6wPX+YVK4L54RFco3QlslyzFJ8T+lGUQ5wA Fk+Gus1ibz5NNsSoIhsbb/QJzbEhMVj2DaSoMm0D4MAI+0/cl/GmtWUSgY0y6N7t /w3NR1Bon3d4FblQOGqdF/VovN5tX2YInMttD5s+Av/OQTxX+VPfp3qx41BcC3pa 0CFp0le4TQp980vJuUbZ1RmJycp7AfkYU4v89foDcqNlyX9KIqBTBQoadVl37jud fBcAOmc7/wu4y1CVSY6btOFuOaAUFY5vglIixXqabJsJyFc3ymx6yP1MNOjUfTzK k/azAZis7DnV8YsyUQbJv5rl9VH2G3qwDpwB7ae9dG2kA2zicrN0cTfEIYJkrrFe VF+oyzR7PyRGQ98/lE4ewLiHW2zWUyzo+YJp1MJTkWIvWAp7Q/FyyaayXQ9Kju4a FtQMwD46lvPhQKsg5245Sn3Fg18HJmrWwGM5Qr3axs2aOKNvj5fPuStelaKQVYIi oIG30WSZcK/RnUuS5rvPgLzOM+O27ez3oj861cd3itYR8yz9qun5PDBAiwZgf2T+ 7ROGjnFANJvQtr5pUBXV =Tpza -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015, Bryan Venteicher wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov s...@zxy.spb.ru wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:28:23PM +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.01.2015 14:29, Lev Serebryakov wrote: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 May be IOPS quotation? Can you test with dd and custom kernel with MAXPHYS=1048576 ? What's the value of kern.timecounter.hardware? It will likely be either HPET or ACPI which means there is an VM exit whenever the guest reads from the emulated timecounter hardware. That's why I have some WIP to add support for KVMCLOCK [1]. I hope to merge those changes to HEAD in a week and STABLE shortly after. sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware kern.timecounter.hardware: HPET ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov s...@zxy.spb.ru wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:28:23PM +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.01.2015 14:29, Lev Serebryakov wrote: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 May be IOPS quotation? Can you test with dd and custom kernel with MAXPHYS=1048576 ? What's the value of kern.timecounter.hardware? It will likely be either HPET or ACPI which means there is an VM exit whenever the guest reads from the emulated timecounter hardware. That's why I have some WIP to add support for KVMCLOCK [1]. I hope to merge those changes to HEAD in a week and STABLE shortly after. In the meanwhile, not completely foolproof workaround is to use the TSC-low timecounter source. [1] - https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2015-January/016587.html ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) I had a quick look at it and the result is quite poor considering the time it took them to get it done. They had to install quite a few packages (perl, python27, libX11, avahi ...) and modified the stock FreeBSD image quite a bit. At startup they send an arping otherwise you do not even have network access in their network. This looks all a bit hackish and error prone. I am really wondering how long it will take that a regular update breaks their scripts and let's you back with a non accessible box. -- Bernhard Froehlich http://www.bluelife.at/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:28:23PM +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.01.2015 14:29, Lev Serebryakov wrote: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) But here are some thread about FreeBSD is way slower than Linux in these virtual installations https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=487 May be IOPS quotation? Can you test with dd and custom kernel with MAXPHYS=1048576 ? By default, root is mounted with sync option: time dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test bs=64k count=16k 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 57.605991 secs (18639412 bytes/sec) 0.023u 6.128s 0:57.61 10.6% 25+172k 7+81916io 3pf+0w sudo mount -o nosync -u / mount /dev/gpt/rootfs on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) time dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test bs=64k count=16k 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 5.135908 secs (209065631 bytes/sec) 0.016u 2.274s 0:05.16 44.1% 24+169k 8+8193io 0pf+0w //Marcin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at wrote: I had a quick look at it and the result is quite poor considering the time it took them to get it done. They had to install quite a few packages (perl, python27, libX11, avahi ...) and modified the stock FreeBSD image quite a bit. At startup they send an arping otherwise you do not even have network access in their network. This looks all a bit hackish and error prone. I am really wondering how long it will take that a regular update breaks their scripts and let's you back with a non accessible box. I use http://www.vultr.com/ for FreeBSD - their packages are similarly or better priced than DO. With Vultr, you can run their automated install, (which in itself just automates a typical FreeBSD install - there are no OS hacks) or just install off an ISO etc. I don't know what's unusual with the DO virtualisation, but vultr just works like a normal server (though they do restrict to virtio devices where applicable rather than emulated harware) You can even install a windows ISO (as long as you've sideloaded virtio drivers onto the install disk), or with FreeBSD, it just works Cheers, Jamie ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
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DigitalOcean offers VMs with FreeBSD!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/presenting-freebsd-how-we-made-it-happen/ I didn't see this news on mailing lists :) - -- // Lev Serebryakov AKA Black Lion -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUt6STXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGOTZEMUNBMEI1RjQzMThCNjc0QjMzMEFF QUIwM0M1OEJGREM0NzhGAAoJEOqwPFi/3EePp6oP/3yvWOpt83MiEVuoTxZpGuVI 4vpWyv+U9SaDzFNo7HGOO5qI0L1vqe77mzzlqA2bVUcITKx+YckO5gtRdSDh3GtB FzpHpVHXDD96YacyxYaPFIqnGYAUoeNgX/mcTQz2IYouWWDuRsy17joetXVmtunP 2SFntiAnf8xYYfc/T3Bwjhff+TUgcQhmVH567EUpa2QTtWEesxeISqUj54/JwPzX 1sI0Yy2t293g/udCQxROU1rFqjmjTW6r31iS27IUbwdQtyGXR1EHMMopKXxxOq5x w1THJyLOQOETTRAYJpEpHgNRmgFZazfvxe6mPDQyuEQ/tuCZgO1WLwPajhy8Ckws Fa9vQsVyQOFjj5hP1BbGJFtIpc0BMuyXESfABRTBQZsD/SHJzly59wGqgl1lwFQ5 fUb5oDyc07M6jquQo/Pc05cwHxgsRumAYZ1CIxNTR930ShL4mpcYTS6xWlkzm4bA cqfSZ2FW57RKjWrArI7xOrG83aneHjkwJtNQ/5nLbpmemmRMW9qRzd9YaWkGfmNn jsnwwS5gmIuLK5GTkprWQ1wBltdV7BiFFNAIRi6OBpM/pmwshOVXHOPJp+9YXCLJ UfmLedFGSp/J/BESsRmJ1rlt52coy/NY3AxA+z/JW3kgD/EIRdiNSswktTTn9nCR 8bOmQUvmMdQ/bRjlGomh =shHj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
