Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-16 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sunday 15 July 2012 15:25:10 Adrian Chadd wrote:
 Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?
 
the problem are only there when the network goes down while being used. When 
the network is down when I start the machine and when the network is up and 
running, the problem is not there.

This makes it so weird for me.

Ok, after a restart the problem was solved. But, are we really used to restart 
FreeBSD because of things like this?

Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-16 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Monday 16 July 2012 14:47:04 Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sunday 15 July 2012 15:25:10 Adrian Chadd wrote:
  Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?
 
 the problem are only there when the network goes down while being used.
 When the network is down when I start the machine and when the network is
 up and running, the problem is not there.
 
 This makes it so weird for me.
 
 Ok, after a restart the problem was solved. But, are we really used to
 restart FreeBSD because of things like this?
 
 Erich

Hi,

What does top and vmstat -i say. I think this is more a hardware problem 
than software problem, like lost/shared interrupts. Maybe the IRQ is not 
properly masked when downing the network interface.

--HPS
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-16 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Monday 16 July 2012 20:07:27 Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 On Monday 16 July 2012 14:47:04 Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Sunday 15 July 2012 15:25:10 Adrian Chadd wrote:
   Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?
  
  the problem are only there when the network goes down while being used.
  When the network is down when I start the machine and when the network is
  up and running, the problem is not there.
  
  This makes it so weird for me.
  
  Ok, after a restart the problem was solved. But, are we really used to
  restart FreeBSD because of things like this?
  
 
 What does top and vmstat -i say. I think this is more a hardware problem 
 than software problem, like lost/shared interrupts. Maybe the IRQ is not 
 properly masked when downing the network interface.

I did not think of vmstat at that moment of time. Top did not show me anything 
which was completely out.

Do not worry too much. I hoped to give a hint here for a programmer who might 
has noticed something like this.

I hope to do some testing soon.

Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
Also, please check dmesg if you haven't. The firmware on the NIC may
have crashed and you may be able to fix it by simply restarting the
wlan interface.



Adrian


On 16 July 2012 05:47, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sunday 15 July 2012 15:25:10 Adrian Chadd wrote:
 Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?

 the problem are only there when the network goes down while being used. When 
 the network is down when I start the machine and when the network is up and 
 running, the problem is not there.

 This makes it so weird for me.

 Ok, after a restart the problem was solved. But, are we really used to 
 restart FreeBSD because of things like this?

 Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?



Adrian


On 13 July 2012 05:04, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I know that this is not a very helpful information.

 I have an Lenovo X220 running 10 from some 2 weeks ago. I just noticed that
 the USB mouse (a wireless Logitech Trackman) becomes unusable when the
 wireless (iwn) is not able to connect to the access point and a USB hard disk
 is plugged in. Even when no data are transferred the USB mouse is unusable.

 The built-in track-point behaves just normal.

 When I turn off the wireless network via the hardware switch, the system stays
 usable as expected even under heavy hard disk access. If it was not something
 else I have missed, the only difference was the access point which went down
 when I noticed the problem.

 Please understand this just as a hint to the developers of the sub-systems
 which could cause the problem. As this network here is not mine, I am not able
 to do any tests with it.

 If somebody has an idea what could be tested, tell me please. I will have
 access to 'my' network the coming week again.

 Erich
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Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

I know that this is not a very helpful information.

I have an Lenovo X220 running 10 from some 2 weeks ago. I just noticed that 
the USB mouse (a wireless Logitech Trackman) becomes unusable when the 
wireless (iwn) is not able to connect to the access point and a USB hard disk 
is plugged in. Even when no data are transferred the USB mouse is unusable.

The built-in track-point behaves just normal.

When I turn off the wireless network via the hardware switch, the system stays 
usable as expected even under heavy hard disk access. If it was not something 
else I have missed, the only difference was the access point which went down 
when I noticed the problem.

Please understand this just as a hint to the developers of the sub-systems 
which could cause the problem. As this network here is not mine, I am not able 
to do any tests with it.

If somebody has an idea what could be tested, tell me please. I will have 
access to 'my' network the coming week again.

Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-13 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Erich Dollansky
erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I know that this is not a very helpful information.

 I have an Lenovo X220 running 10 from some 2 weeks ago. I just noticed that
 the USB mouse (a wireless Logitech Trackman) becomes unusable when the
 wireless (iwn) is not able to connect to the access point and a USB hard disk
 is plugged in. Even when no data are transferred the USB mouse is unusable.

Which frequency is the mouse working on? something in the 2.4GHz region?

I remember having lots of fun at $office with the mouse of colleague.
It used channel 6 and the amount of traffic generating over wireless
LAN had direct influence on the accuracy of his mouse activity ;)

Anyways, if you have the chance to switch to another channel, give it a shot.

-- 
Bernhard
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

2012-07-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Friday, July 13, 2012 09:10:16 PM Bernhard Schmidt wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Erich Dollansky
 
 erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I know that this is not a very helpful information.
  
  I have an Lenovo X220 running 10 from some 2 weeks ago. I just noticed
  that the USB mouse (a wireless Logitech Trackman) becomes unusable when
  the wireless (iwn) is not able to connect to the access point and a USB
  hard disk is plugged in. Even when no data are transferred the USB mouse
  is unusable.
 
 Which frequency is the mouse working on? something in the 2.4GHz region?
 
 I remember having lots of fun at $office with the mouse of colleague.
 It used channel 6 and the amount of traffic generating over wireless
 LAN had direct influence on the accuracy of his mouse activity ;)
 
 Anyways, if you have the chance to switch to another channel, give it a
 shot.

I have to check on this. As the channels of the network here are fixed, this 
only can happen when the network is down. As I said, I can test it next week.

Erich
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