Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-18 Thread Matthew Thyer
Yes I know now... and it does work the only problem now is that
I've only seen it once because I never turn the machine off !! :)

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Warner Losh wrote:

> In message  Matthew Thyer 
> writes:
> : I have "apm" in the kernel and it probes as apm v 1.2 but when
> : the "shutdown -p now" command is run, the power is not turned
> : off and I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to
> : turn it off.
> : 
> : Hows it done ?
> 
> You need to set apm_enabled="YES" in your rc.conf file.
> 
> Warner
> 
> 

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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message  Matthew Thyer 
writes:
: I have "apm" in the kernel and it probes as apm v 1.2 but when
: the "shutdown -p now" command is run, the power is not turned
: off and I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to
: turn it off.
: 
: Hows it done ?

You need to set apm_enabled="YES" in your rc.conf file.

Warner


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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-15 Thread D. Rock
> > > Is a delay needed between the final sync's and the actual power off?
> > 
> > Apparently so.  There is/was a recently added sysctl for this purpose.
> > Poke around in the archives.
> > 
> 
> Was that sysctl added to the -STABLE branch? I am running 3.1-BETA
> and I cannot find it.
No, they were added after the split and weren't backported to the 3.x branch.

But if you are impatient, you could just grab a copy of
sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c from a 4.0 branch and copy it to your tree.
The added sysctl is for now the only difference in this file.

Then you can specify somewhere in your rc files
sysctl -w kern.shutdown.poweroff_delay = x
with x measured in ms.

I have only seen one machine so far which suffers this problem of powering
off the machine too fast. On all other machines I know of either the mainboard
or the power supply (don't know which) have a small delay before powering off
the machine, which seems to be long enough for the drives to flush their
buffers.
On this particular machine, I set the delay to 1.5 seconds, and I never got
unclean filesystems again.

Daniel

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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-15 Thread Jose M. Alcaide
Alex Zepeda wrote:
> 
> > Is a delay needed between the final sync's and the actual power off?
> 
> Apparently so.  There is/was a recently added sysctl for this purpose.
> Poke around in the archives.
> 

Was that sysctl added to the -STABLE branch? I am running 3.1-BETA
and I cannot find it.

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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-14 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Leif Neland wrote:

> Could it be because the system thinks everything is flushed, but something
> is still in the disk's write-cache? (If such a beast exists...)

I think for whatever reason the computer is being powered off before it's
finished syncing.. as in it doesn't check or care.

> Is a delay needed between the final sync's and the actual power off?

Apparently so.  There is/was a recently added sysctl for this purpose.
Poke around in the archives.

- alex


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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-14 Thread Leif Neland


On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote:

> Note there's no mention of the limiting to version 1.1 or 1.0.  Anyhow..
> try rebooting with the flags set to 0x0 and see if that works.  I assume
> that if you've got an ATX mobo, the BIOS is new enough that the APM
> implementation shouldn't be too buggy...
> 
I tried this; now it properly powers off. However, at bootup I get the
message: "Warning: / not unmounted properly"

Could it be because the system thinks everything is flushed, but something
is still in the disk's write-cache? (If such a beast exists...)

Is a delay needed between the final sync's and the actual power off?

l...@neland.dk


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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-14 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:

> > Do you use the "Power up at " feature of the BIOS?
> 
> No.

After this thread, I figured I'd try out shutdown -p, and lo and behold it
didn't work.  Well I thought, I have apm enabled, apm(1) shows that.  The
probe shows that and so on.  A little further checking and it was using
flags 0x31 by default.. presumably to avoid using possibly buggy APM 1.2
features?

Anyhow.. that caused apm to return results like:

APM version: 1.2
APM Managment: Enabled
AC Line status: on-line
Battery status: unknown
Remaining battery life: unknown
Remaining battery time: unknown
Number of batteries: unknown
Resume timer: disabled
Resume on ring indicator: enabled
APM Capacities:
unknown

Note there's no mention of the limiting to version 1.1 or 1.0.  Anyhow..
try rebooting with the flags set to 0x0 and see if that works.  I assume
that if you've got an ATX mobo, the BIOS is new enough that the APM
implementation shouldn't be too buggy...

- alex


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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> 
> On 12 Feb, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> 
> >> > Do I have to run "apmconf -e"  (The owner hasn't tried this yet)
> >>
> >> Yes. There is a knob in /etc/rc.conf ("apm_enable") that forces
> >> this at startup.
> >
> > It doesn't work in all cases, though. It sure doesn't work on _my_
> > machine.
> 
> Do you use the "Power up at " feature of the BIOS?

No.

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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-12 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 12 Feb, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:

>> > Do I have to run "apmconf -e"  (The owner hasn't tried this yet)
>>
>> Yes. There is a knob in /etc/rc.conf ("apm_enable") that forces
>> this at startup.
> 
> It doesn't work in all cases, though. It sure doesn't work on _my_
> machine.

Do you use the "Power up at " feature of the BIOS?

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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
"Jose M. Alcaide" wrote:
> 
> Matthew Thyer wrote:
> > Anyway,  how do I power off a machine on shutdown ?
> >
> > I have "apm" in the kernel and it probes as apm v 1.2 but when
> > the "shutdown -p now" command is run, the power is not turned
> > off and I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to
> > turn it off.
> >
> > Hows it done ?
> >
> > Do I have to run "apmconf -e"  (The owner hasn't tried this yet)
> 
> Yes. There is a knob in /etc/rc.conf ("apm_enable") that forces
> this at startup.

It doesn't work in all cases, though. It sure doesn't work on _my_
machine.

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Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-11 Thread Jose M. Alcaide
Matthew Thyer wrote:
> Anyway,  how do I power off a machine on shutdown ?
> 
> I have "apm" in the kernel and it probes as apm v 1.2 but when
> the "shutdown -p now" command is run, the power is not turned
> off and I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to
> turn it off.
> 
> Hows it done ?
> 
> Do I have to run "apmconf -e"  (The owner hasn't tried this yet)
> 

Yes. There is a knob in /etc/rc.conf ("apm_enable") that forces
this at startup.

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How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?

1999-02-11 Thread Matthew Thyer
Sorry if this is inappropriate for -CURRENT but I am mailing here
as the answer may be to do with recent committed features to
-CURRENT  (intpm ??).

Anyway,  how do I power off a machine on shutdown ?

I have "apm" in the kernel and it probes as apm v 1.2 but when
the "shutdown -p now" command is run, the power is not turned
off and I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to
turn it off.

Hows it done ?

Do I have to run "apmconf -e"  (The owner hasn't tried this yet)

I cant give more info as it's not my machine and I only see it on
weekends.

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