Re: ALTQ for FreeBSD 5.1?
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 09:39:37AM +, Holger Kipp wrote: > > > Erik Paulsen Skaalerud ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > >> > Is anyone working on ALTQ intergration for FreeBSD 5.1? > >[...] > >>I recently took interest in this (about a month ago) and had > >>ALTQ port updated to work with the latest 5.0. The only issue I > >>have had was with fxp and TBR magic; once I find an fxp(4) guru, > >>I will get that sorted. > > > >If you're looking for a fxp hacker, mux is the one you want > >([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He's also on irc.freenode.net with the same nickname. > > Isn't someone working on integrating ALTQ and pf - similar to what has been done for > OpenBSD? Yes, but even if the PF is ported, you still need to download the ALTQ package fromt he ROFUG.org site, because the KAME implementation is used. Cheers. -- Hiten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ALTQ for FreeBSD 5.1?
Bruno Afonso wrote: > Holger Kipp wrote: > > Isn't someone working on integrating ALTQ and pf - similar to what > > has been done for OpenBSD? > > here you go: > > http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/index.html > > I'd love freebsd to have altq and pf or ipf integration on base system.. If it can be one as a kernel module, that's the way to do it, instead of "integrating" it. Alt-Q is experimental code, and, as such, there is academic disagreement on whether it'd be a good idea to integrate it in such a way as it could not be removed. Integrating pf that way would just break the ability to use competing code, for political reasons that not all of us would agree with. So if the code's integratedat all, it should be done as modules. FWIW: Alt-Q does nothing about impedence mismatches; for example, if I have a fast local pipe on a machine acting as a gateway to a slow connection to a much fater network (think NAT box on a DMZ border hooked to a DSL or cable modem), then no matter what I do with Alt-Q, I'm screwed at the network service providers end by the buffer limitations and queueing policy between their OC3 (or whatever) and their DSLM/cable fan out unit. This is because bandwidth usage is asymmetric: if I have two sets of traffic, the NSP's router will fill its buffers alloted to me with one type of traffic/one connections traffic. After that, I can Alt-Q until I'm blue in the face on my end, but without me draining out the NSP's router's packet buffer, no new packets of the right type will gets through. The only way it works is if the NSP is also running Alt-Q, and you have prereserved high water marks for traffic bands, so that even if 90% of your allotted buffers get filled up, there's still 10% reservation for ssh for you to get into and talk to your machine. I much prefer Julian Elischer's approach to solving this problem, which doesn't require cooperation from the NSP. So this recent hard push for Alt-Q in the base system as anything other than a module is a really, really bad idea, in the opinions of some of us. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ALTQ for FreeBSD 5.1?
Holger Kipp wrote: If you're looking for a fxp hacker, mux is the one you want ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He's also on irc.freenode.net with the same nickname. Isn't someone working on integrating ALTQ and pf - similar to what has been done for OpenBSD? here you go: http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/index.html I'd love freebsd to have altq and pf or ipf integration on base system.. -- Bruno Miguel Afonso Biological Eng. student. D.E.Q. @ I.S.T. - Portugal ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: ALTQ for FreeBSD 5.1?
Erik Paulsen Skaalerud ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > Is anyone working on ALTQ intergration for FreeBSD 5.1? >[...] >> I recently took interest in this (about a month ago) and had >> ALTQ port updated to work with the latest 5.0. The only issue I >> have had was with fxp and TBR magic; once I find an fxp(4) guru, >> I will get that sorted. > >If you're looking for a fxp hacker, mux is the one you want >([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He's also on irc.freenode.net with the same nickname. Isn't someone working on integrating ALTQ and pf - similar to what has been done for OpenBSD? Regards, Holger ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: ALTQ for FreeBSD 5.1?
> > Is anyone working on ALTQ intergration for FreeBSD 5.1? [...] > I recently took interest in this (about a month ago) and had > ALTQ port updated to work with the latest 5.0. The only issue I > have had was with fxp and TBR magic; once I find an fxp(4) guru, > I will get that sorted. If you're looking for a fxp hacker, mux is the one you want ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He's also on irc.freenode.net with the same nickname. > The version that is available at the website is about a year old > (august 2002 ish), and there have been substantial changes to > the kernel since then. > > Other than that, I have got it working... Good! Too bad that I only use fxp cards, so I'm pretty bummed right now. Erik. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ALTQ for FreeBSD 5.1?
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 03:04:52AM +0200, Erik Paulsen Skaalerud wrote: > Is anyone working on ALTQ intergration for FreeBSD 5.1? > Looks like the FreeBSD-ALTQ went drop dead, as they havent made anything new > since the release of FreeBSD > 5.0.(http://www.rofug.ro/projects/freebsd-altq/) I recently took interest in this (about a month ago) and had ALTQ port updated to work with the latest 5.0. The only issue I have had was with fxp and TBR magic; once I find an fxp(4) guru, I will get that sorted. The version that is available at the website is about a year old (august 2002 ish), and there have been substantial changes to the kernel since then. Other than that, I have got it working... Cheers. -- Hiten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"