Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Andriy Gapon a...@icyb.net.ua wrote: on 19/06/2010 20:16 Andreas Tobler said the following: Hi all, I got my hands on a t60 with 4GB of RAM (BIOS displays it) Yes, PAE is for what we call in FreeBSD land i386. x86 we use for both i386 and amd64. Now, to the rest. I recently investigated this topic myself, so I can share what I learned. The first thing you'd want to have is SMAP information. You can get it at the loader prompt with 'smap' command. It is also reported by kernel during a verbose boot, but it is only printed to console; it is not saved to dmesg, because it is printed before msgbuf is created. ... That's about all. I am curious as to what you would discover about your system - please share with us. -- Andriy Gapon Hello My notebook Toshiba U200-10H Install 4Gb(2+2) bios detect 3,... not all SMAP tipe=01 base= len=0009fc00 tipe=02 base=0009fc00 len=0400 tipe=02 base=000e len=ee00 tipe=04 base=000eee00 len=0200 tipe=02 base=000ef000 len=00011000 tipe=01 base=0010 len=cf69 tipe=02 base=cf79 len=0001 tipe=02 base=cf7a len=0006 tipe=02 base=cf80 len=0080 tipe=02 base=fec0 len=00018000 tipe=02 base=fec2 len=8000 tipe=02 base=fed0 len=0400 tipe=02 base=fed14000 len=6000 tipe=02 base=fed1c000 len=00074000 tipe=02 base=feda len=0002 tipe=02 base=fee0 len=1000 tipe=02 base=ffb0 len=0010 tipe=02 base=ffe0 len=0020 FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1 r209362: Sun Jun 20 21:44:27 MSD 2010 and...@my_book:/usr/obj/home/andrey/src_head/sys/MY_BOOK amd64 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.76-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f2 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x1000 - 0x0009bfff, 634880 bytes (155 pages) 0x0126a000 - 0xc95dafff, 3359051776 bytes (820081 pages) avail memory = 3339898880 (3185 MB) full dmesg+debug http://www.suahbsd.org/dmesg.boot.dbg ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
on 21/06/2010 11:41 Andrey Fesenko said the following: My notebook Toshiba U200-10H Install 4Gb(2+2) bios detect 3,... not all SMAP tipe=01 base= len=0009fc00 tipe=02 base=0009fc00 len=0400 tipe=02 base=000e len=ee00 tipe=04 base=000eee00 len=0200 tipe=02 base=000ef000 len=00011000 tipe=01 base=0010 len=cf69 tipe=02 base=cf79 len=0001 tipe=02 base=cf7a len=0006 tipe=02 base=cf80 len=0080 tipe=02 base=fec0 len=00018000 tipe=02 base=fec2 len=8000 tipe=02 base=fed0 len=0400 tipe=02 base=fed14000 len=6000 tipe=02 base=fed1c000 len=00074000 tipe=02 base=feda len=0002 tipe=02 base=fee0 len=1000 tipe=02 base=ffb0 len=0010 tipe=02 base=ffe0 len=0020 Looks like your hardware+BIOS can/does not do memory hoisting. 786MB of your RAM can not be used. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
On 19.06.10 22:26, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 19/06/2010 20:16 Andreas Tobler said the following: Hi all, I got my hands on a t60 with 4GB of RAM (BIOS displays it) And I installed 8.1-RC1 on it: FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 #0: Mon Jun 14 13:40:28 UTC 2010 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.76-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3092344832 (2949 MB) ACPI APIC Table:LENOVO TP-79 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Do I need to configure something special to get the full 4GB of memory? I only found the PAE hint, but this is for x86 machines, right? Yes, PAE is for what we call in FreeBSD land i386. x86 we use for both i386 and amd64. Now, to the rest. I recently investigated this topic myself, so I can share what I learned. The first thing you'd want to have is SMAP information. You can get it at the loader prompt with 'smap' command. It is also reported by kernel during a verbose boot, but it is only printed to console; it is not saved to dmesg, because it is printed before msgbuf is created. Example of how SMAP information looks: SMAP type=01 base= end=0009f800 SMAP type=02 base=000f end=0010 SMAP type=02 base=fec0 end=0001 SMAP type=02 base=e000 end=f000 SMAP type=02 base=0009f800 end=000a SMAP type=02 base=bfdf end=bfe0 SMAP type=01 base=0010 end=bfde SMAP type=03 base=bfde3000 end=bfdf SMAP type=04 base=bfde end=bfde3000 SMAP type=01 base=0001 end=00013000 Type 1 ('01') is memory ranges free for OS use. Note that the ranges could be unsorted. SMAP would give you an idea what is free for OS use and what is taken away for BIOS and hardware needs. Also note that what's reported as avail memory is smaller than sum of sizes of all unreserved regions. Some space is taken away by FreeBSD virtual memory code to store some core page/memory management information (~3%). Memory used by kernel and preloaded modules is also not included into avail memory. If you discover that your system reserves, in your opinion, too much memory, then consider the following things. 1. Some memory might be allocated as video adapter's aperture and/or video adapter's memory in case of some integrated graphics solutions. 2. Some memory addresses below 4GB are used for MMIO (memory mapped input/output) - accessing those addresses is actually communicating with some hardware rather than accessing DRAM. Some hardware+firmware combinations can hoist (or remap) DRAM that corresponds to such an address range to a different address range above 4G. If you examine last line of my sample SMAP output, then you'll see that there is 756MB of type 01 RAM above 4GB and that machine has exactly 4GB of DRAM installed - this is MMIO range 0xd000-0x1 hoisted to 0x1-0x13000. If your hardware doesn't support that option, then too bad - the memory is overshadowed by MMIO and is effectively lost. Sometimes hoisting option (under whatever name) has to be explicitly set in BIOS configuration. Thanks for the explanation! That's about all. I am curious as to what you would discover about your system - please share with us. I'd like to, but how do I get this information out of my box? There is no serial line. The only way I know is getting a screen shot. Do you know another way? Unfortunately I do not have a docking station, there I guess I'd have a serial line. Also, sorry for the delay, I had to upgrade the bios in hope that the em0 is recognized properly, but no chance: em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.0.5 port 0x3000-0x301f mem 0xee00-0xee01 irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI vectors (1 supported) msi: routing MSI IRQ 256 to local APIC 0 vector 49 em0: using IRQ 256 for MSI em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: The EEPROM Checksum Is Not Valid Thanks again! Andreas ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
on 21/06/2010 22:19 Andreas Tobler said the following: On 19.06.10 22:26, Andriy Gapon wrote: I'd like to, but how do I get this information out of my box? There is no serial line. The only way I know is getting a screen shot. Do you know another way? Unfortunately I do not have a docking station, there I guess I'd have a serial line. Screenshot is fine by today's standards :-) Especially if you can OCR it by hand. Or large enough (very large!) SC_HISTORY_SIZE in kernel options (start with 1000) and moused. Or a tiny kernel module that I wrote that can reproduce SMAP info upon loading: http://people.freebsd.org/~avg/smap.diff Comes with no guarantee or warranty :) -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
On 21.06.10 21:35, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/06/2010 22:19 Andreas Tobler said the following: On 19.06.10 22:26, Andriy Gapon wrote: I'd like to, but how do I get this information out of my box? There is no serial line. The only way I know is getting a screen shot. Do you know another way? Unfortunately I do not have a docking station, there I guess I'd have a serial line. Screenshot is fine by today's standards :-) Especially if you can OCR it by hand. It will end up in a png :) Or large enough (very large!) SC_HISTORY_SIZE in kernel options (start with 1000) and moused. I'll try that. Or a tiny kernel module that I wrote that can reproduce SMAP info upon loading: http://people.freebsd.org/~avg/smap.diff Comes with no guarantee or warranty :) This one too, I'll try it. But nevertheless my interest in this piece of HW has dropped. I got this t60 because the display is broken, someone broke the glass. This is no problem so far, but the issue that I can only access it via cardbus netif is boring me. Thanks for your hints! Andreas ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Andreas Tobler andreast-l...@fgznet.ch wrote: Hi all, I got my hands on a t60 with 4GB of RAM (BIOS displays it) And I installed 8.1-RC1 on it: FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 #0: Mon Jun 14 13:40:28 UTC 2010 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.76-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3092344832 (2949 MB) ACPI APIC Table: LENOVO TP-79 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Do I need to configure something special to get the full 4GB of memory? I only found the PAE hint, but this is for x86 machines, right? I think this BIOS specific, may be video rezerv FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r208284: Wed May 19 09:34:15 MSD 2010 and...@my_book:/home/andrey/obj/obj/home/andrey/src_head/sys/MY_BOOK amd64 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f2 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3339923456 (3185 MB) ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
On 19.06.10 19:27, Andrey Fesenko wrote: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Andreas Toblerandreast-l...@fgznet.ch wrote: Hi all, I got my hands on a t60 with 4GB of RAM (BIOS displays it) And I installed 8.1-RC1 on it: FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 #0: Mon Jun 14 13:40:28 UTC 2010 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.76-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3092344832 (2949 MB) ACPI APIC Table:LENOVO TP-79 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Do I need to configure something special to get the full 4GB of memory? I only found the PAE hint, but this is for x86 machines, right? I think this BIOS specific, may be video rezerv FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r208284: Wed May 19 09:34:15 MSD 2010 and...@my_book:/home/andrey/obj/obj/home/andrey/src_head/sys/MY_BOOK amd64 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f2 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3339923456 (3185 MB) Thanks. I'll explore the bios a bit more then. Andreas ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
This is likely related to shared memory for your video card. Often you can turn down how much it gets from the BIOS. www.johntate.org This address can recieve heavy traffic. To give your messages priority please put PERSONALX at the start of the subject line. This will allow your message to float to the top of my inbox. -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Tobler Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:17 AM To: freebsd-current Subject: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1 Hi all, I got my hands on a t60 with 4GB of RAM (BIOS displays it) And I installed 8.1-RC1 on it: FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 #0: Mon Jun 14 13:40:28 UTC 2010 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.76-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA ,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3092344832 (2949 MB) ACPI APIC Table: LENOVO TP-79 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Do I need to configure something special to get the full 4GB of memory? I only found the PAE hint, but this is for x86 machines, right? Thanks for any hint. Andreas ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: only 3 of 4GB memory available on amd64 8.1-RC1
on 19/06/2010 20:16 Andreas Tobler said the following: Hi all, I got my hands on a t60 with 4GB of RAM (BIOS displays it) And I installed 8.1-RC1 on it: FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 #0: Mon Jun 14 13:40:28 UTC 2010 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.76-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3092344832 (2949 MB) ACPI APIC Table: LENOVO TP-79 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Do I need to configure something special to get the full 4GB of memory? I only found the PAE hint, but this is for x86 machines, right? Yes, PAE is for what we call in FreeBSD land i386. x86 we use for both i386 and amd64. Now, to the rest. I recently investigated this topic myself, so I can share what I learned. The first thing you'd want to have is SMAP information. You can get it at the loader prompt with 'smap' command. It is also reported by kernel during a verbose boot, but it is only printed to console; it is not saved to dmesg, because it is printed before msgbuf is created. Example of how SMAP information looks: SMAP type=01 base= end=0009f800 SMAP type=02 base=000f end=0010 SMAP type=02 base=fec0 end=0001 SMAP type=02 base=e000 end=f000 SMAP type=02 base=0009f800 end=000a SMAP type=02 base=bfdf end=bfe0 SMAP type=01 base=0010 end=bfde SMAP type=03 base=bfde3000 end=bfdf SMAP type=04 base=bfde end=bfde3000 SMAP type=01 base=0001 end=00013000 Type 1 ('01') is memory ranges free for OS use. Note that the ranges could be unsorted. SMAP would give you an idea what is free for OS use and what is taken away for BIOS and hardware needs. Also note that what's reported as avail memory is smaller than sum of sizes of all unreserved regions. Some space is taken away by FreeBSD virtual memory code to store some core page/memory management information (~3%). Memory used by kernel and preloaded modules is also not included into avail memory. If you discover that your system reserves, in your opinion, too much memory, then consider the following things. 1. Some memory might be allocated as video adapter's aperture and/or video adapter's memory in case of some integrated graphics solutions. 2. Some memory addresses below 4GB are used for MMIO (memory mapped input/output) - accessing those addresses is actually communicating with some hardware rather than accessing DRAM. Some hardware+firmware combinations can hoist (or remap) DRAM that corresponds to such an address range to a different address range above 4G. If you examine last line of my sample SMAP output, then you'll see that there is 756MB of type 01 RAM above 4GB and that machine has exactly 4GB of DRAM installed - this is MMIO range 0xd000-0x1 hoisted to 0x1-0x13000. If your hardware doesn't support that option, then too bad - the memory is overshadowed by MMIO and is effectively lost. Sometimes hoisting option (under whatever name) has to be explicitly set in BIOS configuration. That's about all. I am curious as to what you would discover about your system - please share with us. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org