Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-14 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:56:05 +0200
Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote:

 on 13/12/2011 19:22 Julien Laffaye said the following:
  On 12/13/2011 06:16 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
  on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following:
  [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues
  [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng
  [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
  [4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf
  [5] :
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit/Ports?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit.pdf
 
 
  [6] :
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit-track.pdf
 
  Couple of questions/suggestions:
 
  1. Do you plan to have a pkgng port to issue the preview releases
  pkgng? Current pkgng installation/bootstrap procedure is really
  easy, but the port would be even more convenient for prospective
  testers.
  Yes, this is planned. The ports will bootstrap pkgng.
 
 Great!

The current idea is to have everything in ports so that we don't depend
on the base OS for any kind of changes; we'll only have a bootstrap in
base. One more step forward to decoupling ports from src releases.

  2. Is there a public pre-built package repository with
  pkgng-format packages that could be used for testing and getting a
  taste of a packages-only pkgng-managed system?
  Unfortunately, no.
  I think I now have the resources to do that  for the next CFT. But
  it will only be 9.0 amd64 I am afraid.
  We cant build packages for the entire matrix.
 
 I understand.  Those would take an immense amount of compilation time
 and storage space.

Storage and especially storage / propagation to mirrors are the biggest
problems.
After pkgNG goes in, we plan to switch HEAD to it and provide only
pkgNG packages for it; then probably the same for 9-STABLE and further
9 releases, but we'll probably need to provide current style of
pacakges during 9.x life time :(

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Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-13 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following:
 [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues
 [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng
 [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
 [4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf
 [5] :
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit/Ports?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit.pdf
 
 [6] :
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit-track.pdf

Couple of questions/suggestions:

1. Do you plan to have a pkgng port to issue the preview releases pkgng?
Current pkgng installation/bootstrap procedure is really easy, but the port 
would
be even more convenient for prospective testers.

2. Is there a public pre-built package repository with pkgng-format packages 
that
could be used for testing and getting a taste of a packages-only pkgng-managed 
system?

Thank you.
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Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-13 Thread Julien Laffaye

On 12/13/2011 06:16 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:

on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following:

[1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues
[2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng
[3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
[4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf
[5] :
http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit/Ports?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit.pdf

[6] :
http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit-track.pdf

Couple of questions/suggestions:

1. Do you plan to have a pkgng port to issue the preview releases pkgng?
Current pkgng installation/bootstrap procedure is really easy, but the port 
would
be even more convenient for prospective testers.

Yes, this is planned. The ports will bootstrap pkgng.


2. Is there a public pre-built package repository with pkgng-format packages 
that
could be used for testing and getting a taste of a packages-only pkgng-managed 
system?

Unfortunately, no.
I think I now have the resources to do that  for the next CFT. But it 
will only be 9.0 amd64 I am afraid.

We cant build packages for the entire matrix.


Thank you.


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Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-13 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 13/12/2011 19:22 Julien Laffaye said the following:
 On 12/13/2011 06:16 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
 on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following:
 [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues
 [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng
 [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
 [4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf
 [5] :
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit/Ports?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit.pdf


 [6] :
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=pkgng-devsummit-track.pdf

 Couple of questions/suggestions:

 1. Do you plan to have a pkgng port to issue the preview releases pkgng?
 Current pkgng installation/bootstrap procedure is really easy, but the port 
 would
 be even more convenient for prospective testers.
 Yes, this is planned. The ports will bootstrap pkgng.

Great!

 2. Is there a public pre-built package repository with pkgng-format packages 
 that
 could be used for testing and getting a taste of a packages-only 
 pkgng-managed
 system?
 Unfortunately, no.
 I think I now have the resources to do that  for the next CFT. But it will 
 only be
 9.0 amd64 I am afraid.
 We cant build packages for the entire matrix.

I understand.  Those would take an immense amount of compilation time and 
storage
space.

-- 
Andriy Gapon
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