Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )
David Scheidt wrote: What's wrong with run with system V runlevels? Other than it's system V and everything AT^HUSL did is evil, of course. They try to map graphs into a line. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) )
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: Yea... been hearing that for 4 years... one of it's big short comings is that it needs a persistent backing store for this. Sounds like this C program could fullfill one of the missing parts of devfs :-) F persistent backing store. The daemon solution is perfectly fine. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dav id Scheidt writes: What's wrong with run with system V runlevels? Other than it's system V and everything AT^HUSL did is evil, of course. runlevels are a very oldfashioned way to think about things, I don't want to have one big button which is called "NETWORKING ON/OFF". runlevels let you do more than just run gettys, control networking, and run /sbin/rc?.d scripts. We do. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )
David Scheidt wrote: What's wrong with run with system V runlevels? Other than it's system V and everything AT^HUSL did is evil, of course. Well, the one danger is that we'd be slowly drifting away from the classic BSD way of doing thigs. Of course, the official BSD is dead (right?). But OTOH, we want to carry FreeBSD forward, so if that means we have to incorporate some SysVisms, then so be it. After all, SysV borrowed some things from BSD. The second question I have is, do we try to stay on par with what Open/NetBSD are doing? Should we stick together, synchronise our efforts, and try to define what comprises "BSD"? Or, do we let the 3 BSDs diverge completely? Well, if the 3 diverge too far (ex: FreeBSD implements SysV runlevels, OpenBSD does not or goes with an entirely different system), them would it be fair to consider FreeBSD "BSD"? The advantage here is that FreeBSD would mature into it's own type of UNIX with a BSD heritage. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 01:22:46AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: runlevels, OpenBSD does not or goes with an entirely different system), them would it be fair to consider FreeBSD "BSD"? The advantage here is that FreeBSD would mature into it's own type of UNIX with a BSD heritage. Can we please not have this thread again? Anyone who is interested in following up on anything whatsoever to do with SysV runlevels should first familiarize themselves with the numerous problems they have which have been hashed out on the lists several times over the last 12 months (hint: to to the mail archive search engine at www.freebsd.org and search for "runlevel"). - mark -- Mark Newton Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) Network Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) )
[.] On a related subject: don't you think it's high time to end up this madness with MAKEDEV being a shell script, and reimplement it in C? Today, [.] *cough*DEVFS*cough* -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Awfulhak.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) )
[.] On a related subject: don't you think it's high time to end up this madness with MAKEDEV being a shell script, and reimplement it in C? Today, [.] *cough*DEVFS*cough* Yea... been hearing that for 4 years... one of it's big short comings is that it needs a persistent backing store for this. Sounds like this C program could fullfill one of the missing parts of devfs :-) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) )
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 01:39:28AM +, Brian Somers wrote: [.] On a related subject: don't you think it's high time to end up this madness with MAKEDEV being a shell script, and reimplement it in C? Today, [.] *cough*DEVFS*cough* Gesunteit. - mark -- Mark Newton Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) Network Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) )
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Somers writes: : *cough*DEVFS*cough* devfs*D* Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message